Bands/Artists whose imitators are better than they are

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Sublime are better than the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
P.O.D. are better than Korn.
Crazytown are better than the Chili Peppers OR Korn (but not Sublime.)

chuck, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 01:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

And Public Image Ltd. (and the Fall) are better than Can.
And Lifter Puller are better than Pavement.
And Bob Dylan is better than Woody Guthrie.
And Led Zeppelin are better than Cream.
And the Auteurs (and London Suede) are better than the Smiths.
And Guns N Roses are better than Hanoi Rocks.

chuck, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 01:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

And Big Black are better than Killing Joke. (Hi Alex!)

jeri curlan, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 01:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Jenny Ondioline" > "Für Immer," therefore Stereolab > Neu!

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 01:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

KRAFTWERk & SUICIDE! Responsible for a lot of cool new wave bands that totally trounced their minimalist asses in the song department.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 02:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

totally trounced their minimalist asses

hahaha the hell they did

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 02:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

so far I think the only thing I wholeheartedly agree with is big black is better than killing joke.
the wire elastica thing makes me sick. wire (pre first split) wrote far better pop songs. were far more groundbreaking and ahead of the game. were just better. elastica weren't even sexy enough to make that a point worth making. I wouldn't.

simon 803 (simon 803), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 03:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

thank you Mr. 803

Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 03:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

KinKs are too "musical" ie there's more to them than Ray's lyrics.
You pieces of shit.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 03:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Big Star, surely.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 03:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Blur. Thurman to thredd!

Charlie (Charlie), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 06:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

stereolab > neu! for sure.

i still don't mind the strokes, but is there any truth to that rumor going around that their new alb is being produced by nigel godrich? haha, the mind boggles at how inconceivably bad that's gonna turn out!

geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 06:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

2pac

boxcubed (boxcubed), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 06:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Elvis > Dean Martin

James Blount, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 07:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like PJ Harvey more than Patti Smith, the White Stripes more than Led Zeppelin, and the first Stooges album more than anything by the Doors.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 07:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

Frank Zappa inspired LOTS of bands who were better than him: The Tubes, Tin Huey, and MX-80 Sound, for starters.

And Pere Ubu were way better Captain Beefheart.

And Public Enemy (and lots of other rap acts, politically minded and otherwise) are better than the Last Poets or Gil Scott-Heron.

jeri curlan, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 17:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Ramones. Influential beyond description. They spawned dozens of groups who were all better than them.

Julien S. (Julien Sandiford), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 03:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Frank Zappa inspired LOTS of bands who were better than him: The Tubes, Tin Huey, and MX-80 Sound, for starters.

Eh? The Tubes better than Zappa? (jeri don't know me very well do she?)

And Pere Ubu were way better Captain Beefheart.

A closer call, but I'd still give it to Beefheart -- mainly because I wouldn't exactly peg Pere Ubu as strictly Beefheart imitators.

Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 04:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Cocteau Twins or Dead Can Dance: the entire genre of dark metal

Dark yes, but metal, absolutely not.

Leee (Leee), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 06:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Chuck is right, Lifter Puller are better than Pavement

M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 08:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, but you think "Spit on a Stranger" is their best song!

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 08:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

the New York Dolls and Guns n Roses were better at being the Stones than the Stones were at the time (tough task fer sure). This applies to countless acts with re: to Bowie as well.

Nirvana >>>>>>>> the Pixies or the Melvins or the Vaselines or whoever else they imitated

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 08:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Said (as in Edward) it before, say (as Say Say Say) El Vez is light years (as in years to who) better (as in Huddie Led) than Elvis (as in Elvis) Presley (as in Elvis).

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 16:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I can't even remember how "Last Night" went

Refer to "This Charming Man" and its Motown shuffle. Now imagine it with nothing good about that combination (like Gene's "This is Not My Crime," f'r instance).

And the Auteurs (and London Suede) are better than the Smiths.

The Auteurs, ARGH! Pain!

I have no doubt about Lifter Puller being better than Pavement, though. But what's a good place to start?

Sublime are better than the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
P.O.D. are better than Korn.
Crazytown are better than the Chili Peppers OR Korn (but not Sublime.)

Everything being relative, I agree with this completely.

that totally trounced their minimalist asses in the song department

"The Model" has a melody and a beat, what more do you want? ;-)

I might take "I Got My Mind Set On You" over having tacks driven into my butt-cheeks.

How about somebody else's butt-cheeks?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 17:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Hated*

*this may be a lie.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 17:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

No one can imitate the VU and do it better, because a good majority of what made VU what they were was that they did it first.

David Allen, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 17:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Doing first != doing best though.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 17:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Chuck's on the pipe re: Crazytown over the Chili Peppers. Shifty and the Gang's album tracks are 100% bo-sheeet. And I'm the guy who thinks "Butterfly" was the best single of 2001 (which is when the CD single was actually released, not three years ago like that grumpy guy's article said in the Voice last week).

I should hear this Lifter Puller...

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tom Petty beats the Byrds

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

This thread disturbs me.

hstencil, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

the strokes and VU were VERY diff from each other. tough to compare.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

one of the many threads that disturb me.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

four months pass...
New Model Army >> The Clash

Michael Dubsky, Sunday, 8 June 2003 06:21 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
the scientists > the birthday party
times ten > the bangs
tugboat > the bats
the spice girls > the beatles.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Monday, 15 September 2003 08:02 (twenty years ago) link

This thread disturbs me.
-- hstencil (hstenci...), January 22nd, 2003.

yeh i agree, i cringed on several occasions. some of you people are t-r-i-p-p-i-n-g..

kerry getz (kgetz), Monday, 15 September 2003 08:13 (twenty years ago) link

Rolling Stones > Chuck Berry?

dave q, Monday, 15 September 2003 08:15 (twenty years ago) link

no

duane, Monday, 15 September 2003 08:21 (twenty years ago) link

!!

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 15 September 2003 08:27 (twenty years ago) link

ten years pass...

I've already enraged several hilarious rockists to the point of incoherent internet fury (possibly) by suggesting that Electric Wizard do this to Sabbath. Now it's your turn for a spot of mild iconoclasm!

imago, Thursday, 17 April 2014 21:16 (ten years ago) link

Wooden Shjips > Les Rallizes Denudes

I have this feeling occasionally about the self - titled Paramore vs. Blondie. I'll have to hear another album or two of new stuff though before I'd go around starting arguments with people about it though.

keep calm and nahkchivan (how's life), Thursday, 17 April 2014 21:27 (ten years ago) link

Wow I totally read this thread wrong. I was thinking about how over time The Musical Box became better at playing Genesis songs than Genesis ever was.

frogbs, Thursday, 17 April 2014 21:35 (ten years ago) link

Aerosmith: Royal Trux

agree w/ this but then again I've never listened to aerosmith

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 17 April 2014 21:53 (ten years ago) link

listen to the "Get Your Wings" LP at once, it rules

the tune was space, Thursday, 17 April 2014 21:54 (ten years ago) link

Electric Wizard are a doom metal band from Dorset, England. The band formed in 1993 and have recorded seven full length albums, two of which are now considered to be genre landmarks: Come My Fanatics... and Dopethrone.[2][3] Electric Wizard's brand of doom metal incorporates stoner and sludge traits, with lyrics focusing on the occult, witchcraft, H.P. Lovecraft, horror films and cannabis.

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 April 2014 22:17 (ten years ago) link

Justin "Jus" Oborn is the lead vocalist, lead electric guitarist and lyricist of Electric Wizard, an influential doom metal/stoner metal band from Dorset, England.[1] Prior to forming Electric Wizard, Oborn was a member of the band Lord of Putrefaction, which changed its name to Thy Grief Eternal[2] and then to Eternal.

Justin was known as "Fuzz" by his friends at his primary school in Wimborne Minster.

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 April 2014 22:18 (ten years ago) link

imo this is always more interesting when the bands who do the "bettering" actually kind of epic-ly fail in their copy: see Miles Davis thinking he was playing music like Sly Stone or Jimi Hendrix on Bitches Brew, Led Zeppelin playing old blues songs, Magma wanting to play spiritual music a la Coltrane

Dominique, Thursday, 17 April 2014 22:28 (ten years ago) link

I've already enraged several hilarious rockists to the point of incoherent internet fury (possibly) by suggesting that Electric Wizard do this to Sabbath. Now it's your turn for a spot of mild iconoclasm!

― imago, Thursday, April 17, 2014 2:16 PM

don't flatter yourself, you're just being roundly mocked as per usual

sleeve, Thursday, 17 April 2014 22:37 (ten years ago) link

really does feel like ILM is entirely populated by jaded rock-critic canon-fodder [sic] sometimes

imago, Thursday, 17 April 2014 22:41 (ten years ago) link

^delightful morbsian oh forget it

imago, Thursday, 17 April 2014 22:42 (ten years ago) link


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