Spotify - anyone heard of it?

You left out "contact Spotify support so they can fix your problem". Might be less frustrating with that extra step!

Is anyone having issues with Spotify crashing while using the Amazon Fire Stick? It could be my internet connection too, perhaps

Bad idea: https://www.engadget.com/2017/04/24/spotify-building-its-own-hardware/

I hope someone there realizes how much money this will cost.

It also indicates that the hardware would be "a category defining product akin to Pebble Watch, Amazon Echo, and Snap Spectacles."

should i have heard of any of those?

I don't understand why the nest folder/playlist "play all" function went away either. I can understand not adding new features but taking away something that was established and that people liked and used *coughstarredplaylistcough* is such a strange thing to do.

― musically, Tuesday, April 18, 2017 9:39 AM (six days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It should still work on the desktop app, but is no longer available on mobile devices.

― Moodles, Tuesday, April 18, 2017 11:57 AM (six days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Just came here to post this W T F for real. This was a super basic functionality that I used daily and built my folder structure around....

wow terrible idea going into hardware they kinda have no idea what they're doing over there do they?

Roku app dropped playlists completely about a month ago. Since then, I was only using it too search up specific artists or albums. Now any remaining functionality has also stopped working. So at this point, the Roku app just doesn't work at all.

instead of their own hardware, spotify should follow through on the $15 a month hi-rez audio subscription tier and do a big partnership with Sonos to have it baked in w/Sonos

I don't necessarily expect spotify to get hardware right, but I'm intrigued nonetheless

If you want to do your own corporate mindreading, all these jobs are posted on our site. The Voice and NLU ones are even in my office in Boston.

https://www.spotify.com/us/jobs/opportunities/product/all/boston-ma-united-states/

I use the web app when I use it on my laptop (mostly an iOS app user). Is there a trick, on this new minimal UI, to finding where I can sort albums and playlists? I usually sort by recently added, but now it's just alphabetical. Kind of annoying. I haven't used the desktop app in forever, but as a Mac OS user I remember having to reinstall it constantly after updates, because of various bugs.

The desktop app has been improved quite a bit since forever ago, and I think it's safe to say it's better than the web UI. Maybe give it another try?

My main frustration with the web player is not being able to access playlist folders. For whatever reason it ignores them and just displays the contents as a dirty great list. Makes shuffling folders impossible and adding to playlists a giant ballache. (My school won't let me download the desktop app and force me to use IE, the massive spanners.)

So for the past 24 hours or so any song i try to play in Spotify on my iPhone just stops a few seconds (sometimes up to a minute) in. Then if I'm lucky it starts again after a few seconds of silence. Or not. Anyone else having this issue? And is there a quick fix? I've tried restarting the phone but I'd prefer to not have to reinstall the app since I have a lot of offline stuff on it.

iPad app change is weird - if it's slightly broke, break it some more

Am I correct that one can make playlists available online in the 'my music' section if it's for iphone/ipad, but for the desktop app you need to make a playlist of the album and then make said playlist available offline? :-/

If notifications of artists I follow worked, I would never have to check stereogum again

It seems like Discover Weekly occasionally takes a metaphorical holiday and lets its pal Daily Mix fill in. This week was just a greatest hits, 25-26 songs I've known most of my adult life, nothing remotely new, several tracks that I've had multiple times before (Some Velvet Morning, Dancing in the Lesbian Bar, I Am The Cosmos, This Mortal Coil's version of Kangaroo, Lazy Line Painter Bloody Jane, etc).

Weird. DW really got good either side of Xmas from my PoV - dozen or more brand new acts (to me) every week. The algorithm is cruising again now.

My gf is reporting the same thing. At least three of the tracks mentioned above, and wall-to-wall obviousness. Curious as to why this happens occasionally (though DW has been pretty weak for a month or two now).

I was very impressed with Release Radar, but recently seems to be morphing into Discover Weekly with a lot of artists I've never heard of or played before.

I gave up on Release Radar because the act of following it basically broke the Playlist access function on my Marantz streaming thing. It has become further broken recently (I imagine it's API changes that Marantz haven't kept on top of with firmware updates - my receiver is from 2013) - won't show any playlists that I didn't create, so no DW either - so now I just AirPlay to it from my phone. I should check out RR again.

Mixed-up artist metadata: the garage rock Uniques, the Jamaican Uniques, and possibly also the doo wop Uniques are listed together under that not-so-unique name.

I don't blame Discover Weekly, but just because I listen to Babe Ruth for a solid week doesn't mean I want to listen to an hour's worth of bands like Quicksilver Messenger Service on Friday.

I kind of find the idea that I would want to listen to things that sound just like things I listened to recently insulting

I will get the non-unique Uniques fixed.

Release Radar picks artists you've followed and/or played first, but if it can't find enough of those with new releases in a given week, it does use the same suggestion logic as Discover Weekly as a backup to try to find you something else you might like.

I'll pass along the feedback about DW producing already-familiar songs.

Oh, and what's the model number of your Marantz thing, Michael? In general older stuff is supposed to keep working with the new playlists, but maybe this one is an exception for some reason...

Search function is working again on the roku app, so I can at least play music on it, but still no playlists.

DW works well more often than it doesn't, but President Keyes is correct - it does sometimes ape Amazon's "Say, you bought a bath mat recently. Here are 1,000 more." algorhythm.

Glenn: it's a Marantz M-CR610. It's not a major pain, though I used to like navigating playlists on the device itself (or through its remote app) rather than relying on my phone/AirPlay. Now DW just shows up as "by" in the playlists and navigation is extremely slow. (It's not the M-CR611, which added Spotify Connect).

I don't expect DW to know that I'm a 48yo guy with way too much physical media, and, while I may not have chosen to play these songs through Spotify, I have played them to death since I was 20-something. But to keep giving me the same "core" songs (Chris Bell, Nancy & Lee, B&S, This Mortal Coil, Scott Walker, Lambchop, Slits, etc) may indicate a bit of a glitch somewhere (I've had Some Velvet Morning maybe four times since late 2015, six if you include covers). And now another friend has told me that their DW was basically a "hits of yr life" this week.

my DW last week was entirely 70's soul/funk/disco because I listened to a few hours of the ILM poll playlist

Yeah, most pre-Spotify-Connect devices can't understand the newer playlist formats that DW, RR and many of the Spotify editorial playlists use.

The thing about all the stuff you play outside Spotify is a subject of constant interest and discussion here, in many contexts. Some of the things that get labeled "recommendations" are really just as much attempts to infer the aspects of your existing taste that you haven't directly demonstrated to us. "You might also like" vs "You probably also already know".

My most recent Discover Weekly had a LOT of stuff I've had before, including one song I had last week!

most artists pages giving me "Sorry, something went wrong."s on Android 7. Having more gos also not helping.

For the second time for me (at least) this year, discover weekly has featured "spill the wine" twice in the same playlist. A song I already have on a playlist I've made, and that I know I've played in the last month.

I play a lot of old top 40s for a project these days, and those songs tend to be uploaded on Spotify in multiple slightly different versions, so I can't blame DW entirely for turning into "you played this grass roots hit, discover it on a different best-of." At least there are no shitty re-recordings this week. But still...wtf.

lol

I am having the same thing with DW: a lot of familiar songs and several that are repeats from earlier DW's (Guided By Voices' Game of pricks most notably). This has been the case since maybe last week. I'm a big fan of DW and I filter out my favs in a separate playlist. In the past year I've discovered so much really good new music thanks to DW.

help every single spotify-curated playlist is just a single fuzzy recording of garry shandling telling me to set my asshole on fire

should i do it glenn

help i'm running out of time

Personalization.

The main problem with RIYL engines is that they always pick the common denominator sonmost of the time it will recommend you something you already know. Oh so you like "Calvin Harris?" Here's songs by Avicii, Galantis and David Guetta which you probably already know.

I've very rarely discovered anything exciting or new through any songs' radio or my personal recommendations.

I've discovered lots through DW but I had become lazy & terrible at discovering things through any other sources.

yeah DW is a great tool and the ease of use makes it pretty serious competition for all other sources :O

Dw has been pretty good at going, "Oh, you like alternate versions and remixes? Here are a few that you wouldn't have even thought to look for."

My Release Radar from last week is sitting right there cheek by jowl next to my Release Radar from this week. Help! I'm caught in a time loop!

Sorry if Glenn has already gone into this upthread, but I'm guessing the repetition that everyone reports with DW (though you can have weeks of genuinely novel stuff) is down to Artist/Song not being a sufficiently unique way of identifying something? So if, song X by artist Y is on the original LP, the deluxe reissue (where it's 10sec longer), some "Back to Mine" comp, an artist best-of comp, a genre best-of comp - that's five unique objects on Spotify, and you may eventually get all of them if they're referenced on public playlists. This is the only way I can explain something like getting the 7" and LP versions of *the same song* in one week's playlist. The metadata is different for those entries.

I think I may have finally had every possible release of "Temporary Secretary", which is why I haven't heard it for a few months ;)

We do attempt to deduplicate recordings, not tracks, so you aren't supposed to get literally the same audio more than once. But stuff doesn't always works right, especially over time...

I had no idea until today that my Spotify library had a maximum capacity but according to the Android app it does and I've just hit it.

― Matt DC, Thursday, April 14, 2016 6:41 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's not just an offline limit - even if you don't have a saved album available offline it still counts toward your Your Music 10k limit

well if that's the case it's pretty ridiculous. on ios it doesn't even tell you about any limit, it just stops downloading, and then you leave the house to find half an album/playlist is not there.

― Autumn Almanac, Friday, April 15, 2016 12:37 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I have an iphone and got the message...tho I got it when i was just saving something (a notification popped up), I wasn't toggling the save offline switch on something I had already saved.

Anyway I can see some reason why they'd decide to cap music saved offline but music that's saved online only is basically a collection of shortcuts, idg why that's capped. Especially since that cap doesn't extend to playlists; so all the functionality did was make me unsave a bunch of albums, then add them back as playlists. Not sure what the point of that is...

― musically, Friday, April 15, 2016 12:56 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

caps might have made sense a few years ago when streaming services weren't the centre of the music industry. now that it's ~the way~ so many people use music, the limit is just an archaic pain in the arse, and i'm surprised spotify still has it. i've mentioned this itt before but i'm pretty sure no other major service limits to ~3,300 offline songs.

― Autumn Almanac, Friday, April 15, 2016 1:31 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Been a premium (family) Spotify user since the beginning and just reached my 10k max yesterday. Since they got rid of stars I found a way to use the plus sign in a similar fashion. I have no desire to change how I go about using Spotify again and re-organizing all the work I've already put into it. Sure I can delete some songs, maybe even 1,000+ of them, but that wont solve the problem long term as I will fill it up again soon enough. Very frustrated and now I'm looking into alternatives.

Spent a bunch of time on the spotify forums on this topic and this is their response to the uproar:

Updated: 2016-09-17

Hello everyone. Staff here.

At the moment we don’t have plans to extend the Your Music limit. The reason is because less than 1% of users reach it. The current limit ensures a great experience for 99% of users instead of an "OK" experience for 100%.

We are keeping a close eye on the votes and comments. Please continue to post your feedback.

That's maybe the worst response I can imagine, outside of a "lol f u, morons"

hmmm it does make sense that a feature interesting for >1% of users isn't top priority but I wonder how losing the cap would affect general service (perhaps it's that it would require lots of development for the app to handle larger libraries?)

Uhm that's supposed to be a less sign

im sure that number is growing as more and more people will be reaching the max