Kendrick Lamar - 2017 Album - DAMN

Like, it's a difference between Thom Yorke and Greg Dulli. We need words for that. But ok, I get "beta" and "alpha" have toxic connotations. Will shut up till I think of a better way of putting it.

no i'm ok with you just shutting up itt .

or if you're trying to say "great" and "good", maybe say "great" and "good"

I'm hounding everyone off ILX this week. Sorry, didn't mean to offend. Don't go. Your interpretation is valid

― imago, Monday, 17 April 2017 19:25 (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i rescind this post

Beta male:2010s::f*g:1990s. Shorthand homophobic cipher for a male who doesn't live up to code, right? FFS.

Can we go back to talking about this excellent album? I have listened to Duckworth maybe 1000 times in the last day. It is my challopsy opinion that it is the best track.

oh it might be

Still feel tainted by that reddit comment. I'm just a sjw snowflake annoyed with Kendrick's voice, nothing sinister to it. Have fun people, sorry for the bullshit.

I'm just a sjw snowflake

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wrt to whiney's review i tweeted when tpab came out that kendrick basically got the world to embrace a 96 freestyle fellowship album

there's a lot of tradition of west coast lyrical/boho rap that kinda gets forgotten among the conventional telling of the west coast as the tale of gangsta rap and NWA

freestyle fellowship, aceyalone, rass kass, saafir, heiro, pharcyde, abstract rude etc, i think that stuff def informs kendrick

the good life cafe too

project blowed

With regards to the "bag of sand" stuff, Kendrick is like Henry Miller when you compare him to, say, J. Cole.

being in that scene at the time i totally relate that to Kendrick xp

having a funny voices and off center cadence was a badge of honor

I remember when you was conflicted

being in that scene at the time i totally relate that to Kendrick xp

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:20 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

damn u saw a lot of amazing stuff i bet

yes! we saw all of those guys on the regular . It was a pretty close knit community, good times.

there's a lot of tradition of west coast lyrical/boho rap that kinda gets forgotten among the conventional telling of the west coast as the tale of gangsta rap and NWA

I don't really think tpab sounds *that* much like FF but this is otm

Odd Future draws (drew? no one talks about them anymore lol) from that well too

xpost - i was kinda exaggerating about the FF comparison but the whole loose neo soul vibe and messiness of it does remind me of FF

odd future iirc was more big eminem stans when they were kids

yeah there's that too. Was just thinking that something like the Pharcyde's "4 Better or 4 Worse" totally has that Odd Future vibe

yeah the fat lip versus on that song for sure

there's def a lineage to follow w FF yeah. was listening to Mikah Nine's album 'It's All Love' finding some connections in there
https://youtu.be/qIJxo9kIjBk

I get a little bit of phat lip on 4 Better Or 4 Worse in some of this.

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from OF thread

great minds think alike

there's bits of FF stuff I like here and there but I feel like none of those guys ever made a 100% solid album, either solo or collectively

you could cobble together a fantastic mixtape from various releases tho

I really think that one i mentioned is fronttoback great.

But for the most part they were a mixed bag yeah

thread got good again

had hopes that AC would have put out at stellar solo after Innercity but All Balls fell kinda flat

title track from that is good tho

all balls is half classic

now you guys got me queuing up all this stuff I have listened to in a long time!

While I really love DNA, I can't get over how poorly the beat is mixed. The distortion on the beat, especially the 2nd part, really takes away some of the fire of the track for me. This is the only track on the album that does this to such a degree. Was it mixed on a pair of Beats or something? Wish I could get a hold of the stems and fix it argh

That aside, I feel this might be his strongest lyrical record to date - both in terms of sound and content. So many subtle tweaks to the vocal timbre, especially on PRIDE (is that Kendrick pitching shifting his voice subtly or software?). A number of songs reference themes from the rest of the album, making everything so interconnected that it almost feels more of a concept album than the last two.

oh and can we talk about how iconic the album art is?

While I really love DNA, I can't get over how poorly the beat is mixed. The distortion on the beat, especially the 2nd part, really takes away some of the fire of the track for me. This is the only track on the album that does this to such a degree. Was it mixed on a pair of Beats or something? Wish I could get a hold of the stems and fix it argh

I thought this at first but decided it was on purpose.

beat goes unhinged when he goes unhinged etc

all those west coast rap callouts up there are ON POINT. huge hieroglyphics and aceyalone fan. might throw blackalicious in that mix too

I thought this at first but decided it was on purpose.

beat goes unhinged when he goes unhinged etc

I can see that, but it's a shame. I feel the beat would have had more power and expressiveness if the bass was clean. I'm also mix and produce so this shit bothers me more than most people I'm sure

thx for the kind words above, guys. I was feeling kind of bummed out today and that helped :)

excellent review whiney

also, re what ppl were saying about FF/Blowed

Multiple songs on Damn have this lyrical style, where it it starts with a strict pattern ("I feel like...") and then explodes outward. Genius explains to me that this is called "anaphora."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd3r3R1ot0E

oh yeah good review cw

tfw when called a beta

http://t12.deviantart.net/71napWuGKHnkxHhvt-I3bte3yhk=/fit-in/150x150/filters:no_upscale():origin()/pre01/88ab/th/pre/f/2015/099/8/7/kendrick_pepe_by_h8nter-d8p29e7.jpg

refreshing after reading some negative responses to the album (don't know why, it's a good one obv.) respect to TSJ but i roll my eyes at their resident kendrick hater.

kinda dig the lo-fi moments on this album, they feel very very intentional and inform the songs' respective meaning imo

Yes grebt review, whiney. I like that you plucked out that bit on Lust where he gets mad about the election and then gets distracted by his daily life -- one of the most honest things I've heard anyone say about life under Trump.

Beta male:2010s::f*g:1990s. Shorthand homophobic cipher for a male who doesn't live up to code, right? FFS.

utterly no. beta male = not your typical alpha male pop star. not always bragging. not constantly telling me how great your life is. not needing to be dominant at every turn. coming off like a real, vulnerable person. I think this is the reason I respond to Kendrick Lamar, so if you're trying to pin "homophobia" on me, FFS indeed, it's clear you have no idea where I'm coming from.

that reading elides the common uses of "beta male" on the internet

ie as a pejorative w homophobic overtones