She's a grown up, and presumably doing just fine. She was terrible live, which probably hurt her career. I think Barbara Manning (who's also had a 50th birthday, but didn't get an ILM shout-out) talked at some points about the looks thing. It is what it is. I like some Liz Phair songs. I like more Barbara Manning songs. I wish them both the best.
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:33 (seven years ago) link
And seriously, Jeremy Engle is one great song.
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:34 (seven years ago) link
Here's Liz doing a masterful live version of it.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=jeremy+engle+liz+phair&view=detail&mid=E81861A509ECD4C63449E81861A509ECD4C63449&FORM=VIRE
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:36 (seven years ago) link
i saw liz back in 2003 and she was not terrible live
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:41 (seven years ago) link
51 is still the best
― nomar, Monday, April 17, 2017 9:58 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Better than 5'2.
― pplains, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:42 (seven years ago) link
She was horrible live. There's no need to lie about that. Had a lot of good songs on album, used her looks for what they were, never really knew what to do in front of an audience. Revisionist history isn't helpful.
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:48 (seven years ago) link
She wasn't a dynamic performer, but she was fine live.
― nickn, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:51 (seven years ago) link
used her looks for what they were,
hero
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:52 (seven years ago) link
Hot White Cum.
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:53 (seven years ago) link
― dlp9001, Wednesday, April 19, 2017 12:48 AM (seven minutes ago)
you're right, i'm totally "lying" about my fond memory of a concert from 14 years ago to try to dispute some sexist idiot on the internet
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:57 (seven years ago) link
kinda weird to call an artist with a decade-plus of albums, at least one of which is considered a classic, "robbed of a career"
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 02:25 (seven years ago) link
Also weird to keep talking about her in the past tense
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 06:47 (seven years ago) link
*still waiting with bated breath for dlp to turn 51*
― the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 07:40 (seven years ago) link
(Oh, nomar beat me to it)
― the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 07:41 (seven years ago) link
Sounds like a good show: https://variety.com/2018/music/news/liz-phair-guyville-concert-review-1202829029/
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Monday, 4 June 2018 02:49 (five years ago) link