Kendrick Lamar - 2017 Album - DAMN

fantastic whiney

He's kind of a beta-male superstar with something to say, and his most endearing "voice" communicates vulnerability, not braggadocio (even when he's bragging

wth

smashingly good, cw

Good read yeah.

tunesmithery :D

http://i.imgur.com/GUhGgyZ.jpg

Whiney that is a fucking superb review

in tune with that classicism vibe I keep thinking of DAMN. related to Illmatic, the steady bang-bang-bang directness of both albums' flow

I've seen several comments about the blind lady in the opening story being Lady Liberty, which makes a ton of sense and fits his previous allegories.

or justice, which would make a lot more sense, no?

nice job wgw

Excellent review Whiney. The part about 'xxx' feeling like Rodney King-era revenge fantasies like Geto Boys etc so otm, too.

can we ban the phrase "beta male"

I'm sorry, I meant Lady Justice

xp we certainly can, and it doesn't even really apply to Kendrick, who can command a crowd of tens of thousands of people to his will. "He's short and has a high voice, so therefore he's less of a man." Just dumb.

The bag of sand quality of his sex raps is what makes him beta.

jesus christ

dude gtfo already , you aren't adding anything here xp

Yeah, true. Just being an asshole at this point.

BUT maybe don't get so defensive that even a (well meaning, in Whiney's article) "slight" like beta needs to get reconstructed as to not apply to Kendrick.

is what makes him beta.

― gospodin simmel, Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:37 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

automatic FP for that shit, gtfo & go to reddit you dork

The harshest part of Whiney's review was my realization that my enjoyment of the Kendrick and ATCQ albums vs my indifference/lack of comprehension of lots of new hip hop artists is a clear indication that I'm an old fart pining for the 90s.

Commanding crowds of tens of thousands is a standard thing for pop stars, plenty of them betas. I can understand having an issue with the concept itself but I still find it useful. Specifically when describing how artists tackle sex. It's not "bad" to be beta in that sense but it is different from alpha.

god please eat shit with this "alpha" and "beta" garbage

seriously

just a harmless objective label, let's be cool

Like, it's a difference between Thom Yorke and Greg Dulli. We need words for that. But ok, I get "beta" and "alpha" have toxic connotations. Will shut up till I think of a better way of putting it.

no i'm ok with you just shutting up itt .

or if you're trying to say "great" and "good", maybe say "great" and "good"

I'm hounding everyone off ILX this week. Sorry, didn't mean to offend. Don't go. Your interpretation is valid

― imago, Monday, 17 April 2017 19:25 (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i rescind this post

Beta male:2010s::f*g:1990s. Shorthand homophobic cipher for a male who doesn't live up to code, right? FFS.

Can we go back to talking about this excellent album? I have listened to Duckworth maybe 1000 times in the last day. It is my challopsy opinion that it is the best track.

oh it might be

Still feel tainted by that reddit comment. I'm just a sjw snowflake annoyed with Kendrick's voice, nothing sinister to it. Have fun people, sorry for the bullshit.

I'm just a sjw snowflake

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wrt to whiney's review i tweeted when tpab came out that kendrick basically got the world to embrace a 96 freestyle fellowship album

there's a lot of tradition of west coast lyrical/boho rap that kinda gets forgotten among the conventional telling of the west coast as the tale of gangsta rap and NWA

freestyle fellowship, aceyalone, rass kass, saafir, heiro, pharcyde, abstract rude etc, i think that stuff def informs kendrick

the good life cafe too

project blowed

With regards to the "bag of sand" stuff, Kendrick is like Henry Miller when you compare him to, say, J. Cole.

being in that scene at the time i totally relate that to Kendrick xp

having a funny voices and off center cadence was a badge of honor

I remember when you was conflicted

being in that scene at the time i totally relate that to Kendrick xp

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:20 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

damn u saw a lot of amazing stuff i bet

yes! we saw all of those guys on the regular . It was a pretty close knit community, good times.

there's a lot of tradition of west coast lyrical/boho rap that kinda gets forgotten among the conventional telling of the west coast as the tale of gangsta rap and NWA

I don't really think tpab sounds *that* much like FF but this is otm

Odd Future draws (drew? no one talks about them anymore lol) from that well too

xpost - i was kinda exaggerating about the FF comparison but the whole loose neo soul vibe and messiness of it does remind me of FF

odd future iirc was more big eminem stans when they were kids

yeah there's that too. Was just thinking that something like the Pharcyde's "4 Better or 4 Worse" totally has that Odd Future vibe

yeah the fat lip versus on that song for sure

there's def a lineage to follow w FF yeah. was listening to Mikah Nine's album 'It's All Love' finding some connections in there
https://youtu.be/qIJxo9kIjBk

I get a little bit of phat lip on 4 Better Or 4 Worse in some of this.

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