wait there's a video for humble too! gah where have i been
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 21:30 (seven years ago) link
It might be partially due to being from Eastern Europe
https://i.giphy.com/VFYJXIuuFl6pO.gif
― nomar, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 21:33 (seven years ago) link
the posts itt are so off the wall dumb im agreeing w/ joan crawford and ulysses in an ilx rap thread
or kendrick is that good, however you want to spin it
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 22:16 (seven years ago) link
m8 you're agreeing with me
― imago, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 23:09 (seven years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/review-kendrick-lamar-damn-album-w477376
BITCH I DID THAT
― SSN Lucci (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 23:34 (seven years ago) link
fantastic whiney
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 23:46 (seven years ago) link
He's kind of a beta-male superstar with something to say, and his most endearing "voice" communicates vulnerability, not braggadocio (even when he's bragging
wth
― remy bean, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:05 (seven years ago) link
smashingly good, cw
― remy bean, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:09 (seven years ago) link
Good read yeah.
― gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:12 (seven years ago) link
tunesmithery :D
― imago, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:39 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/GUhGgyZ.jpg
― drab daddy (mahica), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 09:31 (seven years ago) link
Whiney that is a fucking superb review
― Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:44 (seven years ago) link
in tune with that classicism vibe I keep thinking of DAMN. related to Illmatic, the steady bang-bang-bang directness of both albums' flow
― Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:50 (seven years ago) link
I've seen several comments about the blind lady in the opening story being Lady Liberty, which makes a ton of sense and fits his previous allegories.
― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:57 (seven years ago) link
or justice, which would make a lot more sense, no?
nice job wgw
― Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:01 (seven years ago) link
Excellent review Whiney. The part about 'xxx' feeling like Rodney King-era revenge fantasies like Geto Boys etc so otm, too.
― On Some Faraday Beach (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:01 (seven years ago) link
can we ban the phrase "beta male"
― marcos, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:03 (seven years ago) link
I'm sorry, I meant Lady Justice
― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:06 (seven years ago) link
xp we certainly can, and it doesn't even really apply to Kendrick, who can command a crowd of tens of thousands of people to his will. "He's short and has a high voice, so therefore he's less of a man." Just dumb.
― human music...I like it! (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:19 (seven years ago) link
The bag of sand quality of his sex raps is what makes him beta.
― gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:37 (seven years ago) link
jesus christ
― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:37 (seven years ago) link
dude gtfo already , you aren't adding anything here xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:38 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, true. Just being an asshole at this point.
― gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:38 (seven years ago) link
BUT maybe don't get so defensive that even a (well meaning, in Whiney's article) "slight" like beta needs to get reconstructed as to not apply to Kendrick.
― gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:46 (seven years ago) link
is what makes him beta.― gospodin simmel, Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:37 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― gospodin simmel, Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:37 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
automatic FP for that shit, gtfo & go to reddit you dork
― marcos, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:47 (seven years ago) link
The harshest part of Whiney's review was my realization that my enjoyment of the Kendrick and ATCQ albums vs my indifference/lack of comprehension of lots of new hip hop artists is a clear indication that I'm an old fart pining for the 90s.
― Moodles, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:51 (seven years ago) link
Commanding crowds of tens of thousands is a standard thing for pop stars, plenty of them betas. I can understand having an issue with the concept itself but I still find it useful. Specifically when describing how artists tackle sex. It's not "bad" to be beta in that sense but it is different from alpha.
― gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:54 (seven years ago) link
god please eat shit with this "alpha" and "beta" garbage
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:56 (seven years ago) link
seriously
― marcos, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:57 (seven years ago) link
just a harmless objective label, let's be cool
― Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:01 (seven years ago) link
Like, it's a difference between Thom Yorke and Greg Dulli. We need words for that. But ok, I get "beta" and "alpha" have toxic connotations. Will shut up till I think of a better way of putting it.
― gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:02 (seven years ago) link
no i'm ok with you just shutting up itt .
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:03 (seven years ago) link
or if you're trying to say "great" and "good", maybe say "great" and "good"
― Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:03 (seven years ago) link
I'm hounding everyone off ILX this week. Sorry, didn't mean to offend. Don't go. Your interpretation is valid
― imago, Monday, 17 April 2017 19:25 (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i rescind this post
― imago, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:05 (seven years ago) link
Beta male:2010s::f*g:1990s. Shorthand homophobic cipher for a male who doesn't live up to code, right? FFS.
Can we go back to talking about this excellent album? I have listened to Duckworth maybe 1000 times in the last day. It is my challopsy opinion that it is the best track.
― rb (soda), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:08 (seven years ago) link
oh it might be
― imago, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:10 (seven years ago) link
Still feel tainted by that reddit comment. I'm just a sjw snowflake annoyed with Kendrick's voice, nothing sinister to it. Have fun people, sorry for the bullshit.
― gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:14 (seven years ago) link
I'm just a sjw snowflake
from trrrrrrransexualTransyl-vaniaaaaaa
― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:16 (seven years ago) link
wrt to whiney's review i tweeted when tpab came out that kendrick basically got the world to embrace a 96 freestyle fellowship album
there's a lot of tradition of west coast lyrical/boho rap that kinda gets forgotten among the conventional telling of the west coast as the tale of gangsta rap and NWA
freestyle fellowship, aceyalone, rass kass, saafir, heiro, pharcyde, abstract rude etc, i think that stuff def informs kendrick
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:17 (seven years ago) link
the good life cafe too
project blowed
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:18 (seven years ago) link
With regards to the "bag of sand" stuff, Kendrick is like Henry Miller when you compare him to, say, J. Cole.
― human music...I like it! (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:20 (seven years ago) link
being in that scene at the time i totally relate that to Kendrick xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:20 (seven years ago) link
having a funny voices and off center cadence was a badge of honor
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:22 (seven years ago) link
I remember when you was conflicted
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:25 (seven years ago) link
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:20 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
damn u saw a lot of amazing stuff i bet
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link
yes! we saw all of those guys on the regular . It was a pretty close knit community, good times.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link
I don't really think tpab sounds *that* much like FF but this is otm
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:43 (seven years ago) link
Odd Future draws (drew? no one talks about them anymore lol) from that well too
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link
xpost - i was kinda exaggerating about the FF comparison but the whole loose neo soul vibe and messiness of it does remind me of FF
odd future iirc was more big eminem stans when they were kids
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:58 (seven years ago) link