50? Holy shit
― calstars, Monday, 17 April 2017 23:23 (seven years ago) link
Seriously, she probably looks amazing. 50 isn't what it used to be.
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 00:30 (seven years ago) link
51 is still the best
― nomar, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 02:58 (seven years ago) link
really baffled by dlp's posts itt
― long dark poptart of the rodeo (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 14:32 (seven years ago) link
Liz Phair was treated like garbage and I wish her a very happy 50th birthday.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 16:23 (seven years ago) link
otm
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 16:35 (seven years ago) link
Liz Phair is truly an example of an artist robbed of a career due to her gender. I'm pretty sure that at 50 she's doing just fine, looks great, etc.
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 19:03 (seven years ago) link
http://i0.wp.com/www.emotionallybrokenpsychos.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/img59.imageshack.us_img59_9638_drdrewsigh.gif?fit=350%2C263
― nomar, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 19:09 (seven years ago) link
duh!!my display name refers to something (that i found) insulting that was said about her
when I wrote about Liz Phair she was just a weird woman in a bar.
http://music.newcity.com/2016/03/31/liz-phair-steve-albini-me-the-true-story-of-1993-the-greatest-goddamn-year-in-chicago-rock-history/
what made her weird? she was enthusiastic about her music and wanted to share it with people. ;_;
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 19:52 (seven years ago) link
In context it sounds like a lazy, slightly more specific way to say "random person".
― Evan, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 19:56 (seven years ago) link
but instead the writer chose to call her a weird womanit was a choiceHer talk was something: fast, slightly nutty, kind of winning. There was a lot of TMI, incessant and creative profanity, combative observations on the music scene and more. Some of her opinions about music cracked me up, particularly what she said about her tape. It was, she said, “a song-by-song refutation of ‘Exile on Main Street.’”
“Mm-hmm,” I thought, and put the tape in my coat pocket.
MMHMM, I thoughtwhatever dood
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 20:00 (seven years ago) link
it's a tiny banal example, but worth noting because he didn't choose to write "random person" -- to him, she was a weird woman in a bar who deserved a dismissive "mmhmm" even though she was witty, funny, smart, and talented
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link
and pretty
1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.10.― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, December 20, 2003 12:41 AM (thirteen years ago)
funny how p much every old thread about a popular female artist includes a comment exactly like this from this dude
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 20:21 (seven years ago) link
La Lechera I hear you.
I guess when I obliviously skim read that one part I see a guy who is skeptical of the hypothetical concept of “a song-by-song refutation of ‘Exile on Main Street.” But again I am a bit oblivious, so I'll go back and read the whole thing with what you're saying in mind.
― Evan, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 20:55 (seven years ago) link
dlp what are you going to do for kicks if no one deigns to scold you
― iris marduk (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 21:09 (seven years ago) link
She's a grown up, and presumably doing just fine. She was terrible live, which probably hurt her career. I think Barbara Manning (who's also had a 50th birthday, but didn't get an ILM shout-out) talked at some points about the looks thing. It is what it is. I like some Liz Phair songs. I like more Barbara Manning songs. I wish them both the best.
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:33 (seven years ago) link
And seriously, Jeremy Engle is one great song.
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:34 (seven years ago) link
Here's Liz doing a masterful live version of it.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=jeremy+engle+liz+phair&view=detail&mid=E81861A509ECD4C63449E81861A509ECD4C63449&FORM=VIRE
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:36 (seven years ago) link
i saw liz back in 2003 and she was not terrible live
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:41 (seven years ago) link
― nomar, Monday, April 17, 2017 9:58 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Better than 5'2.
― pplains, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:42 (seven years ago) link
She was horrible live. There's no need to lie about that. Had a lot of good songs on album, used her looks for what they were, never really knew what to do in front of an audience. Revisionist history isn't helpful.
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:48 (seven years ago) link
She wasn't a dynamic performer, but she was fine live.
― nickn, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:51 (seven years ago) link
used her looks for what they were,
hero
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:52 (seven years ago) link
Hot White Cum.
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:53 (seven years ago) link
― dlp9001, Wednesday, April 19, 2017 12:48 AM (seven minutes ago)
you're right, i'm totally "lying" about my fond memory of a concert from 14 years ago to try to dispute some sexist idiot on the internet
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:57 (seven years ago) link
kinda weird to call an artist with a decade-plus of albums, at least one of which is considered a classic, "robbed of a career"
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 02:25 (seven years ago) link
Also weird to keep talking about her in the past tense
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 06:47 (seven years ago) link
*still waiting with bated breath for dlp to turn 51*
― the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 07:40 (seven years ago) link
(Oh, nomar beat me to it)
― the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 07:41 (seven years ago) link
Sounds like a good show: https://variety.com/2018/music/news/liz-phair-guyville-concert-review-1202829029/
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Monday, 4 June 2018 02:49 (five years ago) link