"Music doesn't go seasonable to me." Rolling Jazz Dm7♭5 Thread 2017

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Given his humble nature, Holdsworth is a bit embarrassed by the title and finds the notion that he changed “guitar forever,” somewhat overblown—more befitting of names like Orville Gibson, Leo Fender, or Ned Steinberger.

dow, Sunday, 16 April 2017 22:28 (seven years ago) link

The moniker for the weekly jazz showings? "Fred'z With A Z."

budo jeru, Monday, 17 April 2017 18:35 (seven years ago) link

had a look at the recent Ugly Beauty columns - really good stuff!

niels, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 13:37 (seven years ago) link

Thanks! New one coming Friday!

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 13:40 (seven years ago) link

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"Jazz is the only music where the same note can be played night after night, but differently." - Ornette Coleman

dow, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 19:48 (seven years ago) link

Beyond certain points, if it's still different, gotta be jazz---is the way I take it.

dow, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 19:49 (seven years ago) link

I've really enjoyed Christian Sands Reach album this morn, it is more "nice" than groundbreaking - but I have plenty of room for that. The choice of covering a tune from An American Tail seems odd, but it is actually works fine!

calzino, Thursday, 20 April 2017 12:11 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, that's a good record - I meant to fit it into my Stereogum column, but wound up reviewing it for the NYC Jazz Record instead.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 20 April 2017 12:52 (seven years ago) link

I'm probably selling him short by using the "nice" word, there is at least one hip-hop influenced experiment on there.

calzino, Thursday, 20 April 2017 14:39 (seven years ago) link

https://knockdown.center/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/17349780_10158609256325107_6143989830872634039_o.jpg

(From Luaka Bop---see their site for tickets, album, single below)

Alice Coltrane Tribute show on May 21st!
RBMA Festival New York As you may have heard, we are working very hard on a large celebration of Alice Coltrane Turiyasangitananda. This year marks the 80th year since she was born, and the tenth year after she passed to another place. We just announced a large tribute concert and ceremony in her honor, which will take place In New York at the stunning performance and arts space called The Knockdown Center, as part of Red Bull Music Academy Festival New York. The first part of the show (that we are involved with) is inspired by the Sunday ceremonies Alice held at her Sai Anantam Ashram in California. Timed to coincide with sundown, the powerful, spiritual music will be performed by an ensemble led by music director Surya Botofasina, who grew up at the Ashram. The latter half will be a concert led by her son, Ravi Coltrane, featuring an all-star band playing music from throughout Alice's career. Tickets are available here.

A few weeks prior to that, we will be releasing the compilation of her spiritual music, which we told you about last time. Titled World Spirituality Classics 1: The Ecstatic Music of Alice Coltrane Turiyasangitananda, it features a lot of beautiful artwork, photos and essays. You can pre-order it here.

Ps. if you have read this far, you may also find it interesting to learn that we have a handful of the very limited Alice Coltrane Turiyasangitananda 7"s we made for the "Come Together" Record Fair last weekend. If you would like to order one, you can do so

dow, Thursday, 20 April 2017 22:19 (seven years ago) link

i'm pretty psyched about that show, dunno if i can make it tho

Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Thursday, 20 April 2017 22:26 (seven years ago) link

I've talked about this trio before, here's a tour plan that might give you a chance to see them live:

http://i.imgur.com/loWzaGJ.png

niels, Friday, 21 April 2017 08:54 (seven years ago) link

Going to see Vijay Iyer's trio at the Village Vanguard in a couple of weeks (writing a story on him).

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 21 April 2017 11:12 (seven years ago) link

Cool. Remember to ask him about the Fibonacci numbers.

Stupefyin' Pwns (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 April 2017 11:56 (seven years ago) link

My latest Stereogum column is live. I talk about Arthur Blythe, the Bad Plus (and Orrin Evans), the Preservation Hall Jazz Band, jazz Record Store Day releases, and a whole lot more.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 21 April 2017 16:11 (seven years ago) link

another good column

but I think maybe I don't like hard bop :'(

niels, Saturday, 22 April 2017 09:00 (seven years ago) link

Yes, very well done.

Stupefyin' Pwns (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 April 2017 03:15 (seven years ago) link

friend in CPH is re-issuing this marc levin lp. i'm stoked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p-6NkzK47g&feature=share&app=desktop

budo jeru, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 05:23 (seven years ago) link

marc levin doesn't have his own thread here !! c'mon guys let's start a thread and go through his discography and talk about how cool bill dixon is and stuff it'll be great yeah ??

budo jeru, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 05:25 (seven years ago) link

So, turns out the aforementioned Alice Coltrane comp out next month draws from four cassettes that Alice released between 1982 and 1995 on a tiny local label devoted to Vedic teachings. The music is astounding.So says Hua Hsu here (with good overview of her work):http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/04/24/alice-coltranes-devotional-music Apparently her kids got her into synthesizers, extending her range, rather than replacing the other instruments.

dow, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 03:31 (six years ago) link

Yeah, three of the four cassettes have previously been released on CD in their entirety - I own two - and the rumor I read somewhere is that the compilation is a prelude to reissuing all four. I hope that's the case, 'cause the music is fantastic.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 10:17 (six years ago) link

Whoa

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link

marc levin doesn't have his own thread here !! c'mon guys let's start a thread and go through his discography and talk about how cool bill dixon is and stuff it'll be great yeah ??

Fun fact: all of the percussion on Dixon's Intents and Purposes was completely notated, right down to the sticking patterns.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link

Apparently, Mosaic Records is not doing too well at the moment. The following was posted on the Organissimo and Steve Hoffman forums:

A few years ago I had promised myself never to post here again (hm, never say never...), but this is too important in my opinion: earlier today I've been in contact with Mosaic's Scott Wenzel and he told me that they're in very bad shape. Their customer base is dying and, of course, downloading isn't helping - for those wondering why downloads aren't offered by Mosaic: no record company, big or small, is allowing them to offer downloads, the licensing agreements are for CD only. And as for vinyl releases, it seems some (most?) of the record labels they're dealing with are hesitant to license stuff for release on LP. Jazz is a niche market and apparently younger people are not that interested, even less so because of that download situation. Let's hope this is not going to be end of Mosaic after 34 years... By the way, before anyone starts wondering if posting this is a good idea, Scott explicitly asked me to tell everyone I know about their situation.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 27 April 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link

Ugh. Their sets are fantastic (the Braxton box finally cracked his music open for me), but they definitely don't do a good job of marketing them.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 27 April 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link

their website led me to an interview wherein i learned that jack black is charlie haden's son-in-law.

budo jeru, Thursday, 27 April 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link

FPing you for not knowing that before

Shpilkes for a Knave (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 27 April 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link

j/k

If it wasn't for them, I would never have known who Denny Zeitlin was.

Shpilkes for a Knave (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 27 April 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link

(NB He is a real person, not a creation of Alex in NYC)

Shpilkes for a Knave (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 27 April 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

but they definitely don't do a good job of marketing them.

Yeah, it used to be they could just put a single ad in DownBeat to reach 90% of their customer base. They didn't need to know much about marketing.

I only hear about new sets by lurking on the Steve Hoffman forums or just by checking the Mosaic site every couple of weeks.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 27 April 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link

the thing is, maybe jazz is a niche market, but i think young people are definitely interested in purchasing jazz in a variety of formats.

i just think it's particularly hard to sell "the complete X recordings of Y on the Z label in chronological order [year]-[year]" (especially the pre-war stuff)

budo jeru, Thursday, 27 April 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link

I'm on their email list. I definitely agree that the chronological boxes seem designed for archivists, not music fans, but there are some sets they have out now that I'd love to own (the Oliver Nelson big band one, the Ahmad Jamal one, the Mingus live one), and those are things where a well-placed Pitchfork review could really move some copies.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 27 April 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link

maybe i'm an anomaly, but i spent a lot of time and money when i was a teenager buying new cds. i was something of a completist and i felt that it was important for my jazz self-education to have the complete charlie parker on savoy/dial, all the early louis armstrong i could get, and tons of compilations on document of old blues and hillbilly music. plus all the yazoo / shanachie stuff like eddie lang, et al.

it's funny that the post upthread says "apparently young people are not that interested" -- bc it was precisely my youthful exuberance that made me feel like i needed to have all this stuff (which i guess i did need, idk)

anyway, nowadays there's such an inundation of "previously unreleased recordings from X" that i'm overwhelmed, and i wouldn't say mosaic is presenting the most compelling stuff of that ilk. my local jazz station has a good amount of specialty shows that deal with pre-war stuff, very nerdy like, all this "kai winding on the obscure X label from may 17, 1936, with so and so on piano. later that year, the same arrangement would be recorded for the Y label, which had better distribution and today it's the one most people are familiar with, though so and so on piano was unable to record for that date, and for that reason the earlier recording is etc etc etc"

so that's how i get my kicks on pre-war jazz, and i wouldn't say pre-war jazz is an area i'm especially interested in exploring via specialty cd box sets when there's all this other crazy stuff coming out (ayler's unreleased recordings for bird notes e.g.)

budo jeru, Thursday, 27 April 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link

the oliver nelson and mingus for sure!

i'm surprised by how many millennials i meet, or say people under 22, who come into record stores and for some reason NEED to have "the abstract truth" or "mingus ah hum" (on vinyl of course). i definitely think a "best new reissue" would do a lot for some of the (perceived as) hipper not-old-timey things that mosaic is putting out.

budo jeru, Thursday, 27 April 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link

it's funny that the post upthread says "apparently young people are not that interested" -- bc it was precisely my youthful exuberance that made me feel like i needed to have all this stuff (which i guess i did need, idk)

Yeah, I'd think younger people would be more of a target audience. Older folks might be more likely to take a pass, e.g., "I already have the early '60s Art Blakey Jazz Messengers records; what do I need a box with six alternate takes for?"

I definitely agree that the chronological boxes seem designed for archivists

But also this. "Why do I need all the alternate takes of 'The Chess Players' on CD when I have this cool original vinyl pressing of The Big Beat?"

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 27 April 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

ts: $100 for 6 x cd set of complete 1950s hank mobley cuts on blue note / $100 for og '57 mono blue note press of s/t

budo jeru, Thursday, 27 April 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link

Another wrinkle is the public domain sets. There's a couple of Real Gone boxes that add up to a good portion of the Mosaic Mobley set, for about $75 cheaper.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 27 April 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

^^Just what I was going to mention, the public domain stuff - in the UK at least, there is SO MUCH great jazz on CD that is public domain and/or totally dirt cheap, enough listening for a lifetime, that full price specialist import CD box sets really seem like an unnecessary expense, no matter how great.

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 27 April 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link

one track in and holy fuck

A lot of good points about Mosaic on this thread---in the late 80s, they used send me catalogs and newsletters which seemed lavish---the slick paper, the fonts, the layouts, incl. big amazing photos---the only thing I ever bought (since, for instance, I already had all those Mingus LPs for 99 cents each, via the Great Vinyl Dump of that era) was The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Herbie Nichols, on three CDs, with an incredible book, of course---it was and is everything I hoped for and more, after reading Four Lives In The BeBop Business.

dow, Friday, 28 April 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link

The latest from Mosaic (via their mailing list):

Dear Mosaic Friend,

In this time and place, the Mosaic business model is becoming harder and harder to sustain in this rapidly changing world. We aren't sure what the future will hold for us, but we want to let all of you know how much we appreciate that your support has allowed us to constantly make our dreams come true with set after set and that we intend to persevere. The way we operate may change but our mandate remains steadfast.

Charlie Lourie and I started Mosaic Records in 1982 and our first releases were in 1983. The company was almost an afterthought. The idea of definitive boxed sets of complete recordings by jazz masters at a crucial time in their careers was a small part of a proposal that we made to Capitol Records in 1982 to relaunch the Blue Note label. Even before Capitol turned us down, it occurred to me one night that the release of these boxed sets could be a business unto itself if we made them deluxe, hand-numbered limited editions sold directly to the public.

Our first release was The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Thelonious Monk, which came about because I'd found about 25 minutes of excellent unissued Monk on Blue Note. It was too short for an album and I was obsessed with how to get this music released. . It then dawned on me that all of this important material needed to be retransferred and assembled in chronological order as a significant historic document. I solved my problem of releasing those 25 minutes of Monk music and Mosaic Records was born. We had a wonderful run of projects. The Tina Brooks, Herbie Nichols, Serge Chaloff, Count Basie and Nat Cole sets were among those that were especially near and dear to our hearts.

Charlie was my best friend and working together was a joy. Mosaic was slow getting started and it took a few years before we could even draw a meager salary. I remember during those lean years worrying if we could afford to put out a Tina Brooks set. Charlie looked at me in amazement. "Isn't that why we started this thing - to do what's important without anyone telling us no?!" He only had to say it once.

In 1989, we moved out of Charlie's basement and into our own facility. Scott Wenzel joined us in 1987. We added employees as the business grew. We started issuing sets on CD as well as LP and eventually had our own website.

We lost Charlie to scleroderma on December 31, 2000. We managed to keep the tone and spirit of the company up to the level that Charlie created and continued to put out thoroughly researched vital sets of importance in jazz history. But in the early 2000s, the record business began to shrink and morph for a variety of reasons and we were forced to downsize our staff, move to smaller quarters and reduce the flow of sets.

We've always tried to be diligent about warning you when sets were running low so you wouldn't miss out on titles that you wanted. But at this point, some sets which are temporarily out of stock may not be pressed again. We are not certain how Mosaic Records will continue going forward or how many more sets we will be able to create and release. We've got a lot of great plans but few resources.

Scott and I want to thank every single person who has supported us, made suggestions, given advice and shown us such love and affection. If you are thinking about acquiring a certain set, now's the time.

- - Michael Cuscuna

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link

The next JD Allen album, Radio Flyer, features his regular trio (Gregg August on bass, Rudy Royston on drums), plus Liberty Ellman on guitar. I'm pretty excited.

Also, Ambrose Akinmusire's upcoming double CD features all new songs recorded live at the Village Vanguard. I've heard about half of it so far; it's strong.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 15:03 (six years ago) link

^^Just what I was going to mention, the public domain stuff - in the UK at least, there is SO MUCH great jazz on CD that is public domain and/or totally dirt cheap, enough listening for a lifetime, that full price specialist import CD box sets really seem like an unnecessary expense, no matter how great.

― Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Thursday, April 27, 2017 4:28 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Listening to the Real Gone Jazz 4CD Hank Mobley Eight Classic Albums. Dirt cheap, sure, but one of the albums was apparently mastered from a skipping CD, and another from a low-bitrate MP3 source. I'm not enough of a Mobley fan to shell out for the Mosaic set. Caveat emptor with these public domain dealies.

(I didn't have any such problems with the Real Gone 10CD Art Blakey 19 Classic Albums, fwiw.)

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 18 May 2017 23:09 (six years ago) link

My Stereogum column (which goes up tomorrow) talks about the Mosaic news, and the public-domain-cheapo-boxes thing. I'll post a link when it's live.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 19 May 2017 01:07 (six years ago) link

As promised, my latest Stereogum column. Pay particular attention to that jaimie branch album, 'cause it fucking rules.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 19 May 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link

You're right about the Branch. I just bought it. The Montgomery/Kelly track sounded really good too. I look forward to the rest, esp Cuong Vu.

Tomorrow Begat Tomorrow (Sund4r), Sunday, 21 May 2017 02:54 (six years ago) link

scrolling through Bandcamp's jazz releases...new Matthew Shipp on a Polish label?

http://bandcamp.for-tune.pl/album/not-bound

first track is tremendous, a lot of room & air in it -- flute, piano, drums and bass -- just really wonderful

http://bandcamp.for-tune.pl/album/not-bound


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