RIP David Brooks

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But his FB page says ex-columnist for NY Times

curmudgeon, Friday, 14 April 2017 20:14 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

Oh god david brooks wrote a column about how no one wants to hang out with him anymore pic.twitter.com/428umTxgui

— eve peyser (@evepeyser) July 7, 2017

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 July 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link

rough divorce eh

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 July 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link

he remarried a much younger woman, yes?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 July 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link

oh did he? I have no idea.

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 July 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link

awaiting his new book The Ghosting of America

President Keyes, Friday, 7 July 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link

I keep opening this thread hoping the title is true

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link

you are "mean" as the Yam would say

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 July 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link

one day, Alfred, one day...

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 July 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link

shakey he married a younger woman who was formerly his researcher.

his first wife, a gentile, also changed HER FIRST NAME to Sarah when they married.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 7 July 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link

what the fuck

flappy bird, Friday, 7 July 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEdC8ngXkAAyQ8J.jpg

mookieproof, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 14:18 (six years ago) link

You know, I had JUST decided not to click on that column.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 14:21 (six years ago) link

lol

today's David Brooks column is worth reading pic.twitter.com/6UbURCmVAc

— Simon Maloy (@SimonMaloy) July 11, 2017

nxd, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 14:22 (six years ago) link

I think this friend of his just hated Italians but Brooks's larger point still stands: inequality creates culture fissures and resentments

Treeship, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link

'instinctively, i led her into a gourmet sandwich shop / i don't know why but I had to start it somewhere'

bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link

Typical Brooks nonsense, but I'm surprised there are so many presumably sensible people in the twitterverse who are equally baffled by Italian cold cuts.

Moodles, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link

I think this friend of his just hated Italians but Brooks's larger point still stands: inequality creates culture fissures and resentments

Sure, but this idea that "cultural" inequality is the true source of these issues and not the cost and access issues he passingly cites is back-asswards. (That seems to be the implication in the excerpts I've seen, anyway, not giving that shit a click)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link

Totally.

Treeship, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link

so many presumably sensible people in the twitterverse who are equally baffled by Italian cold cuts.

really?!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link

i don't know what any of those things are (except pomodoro). that's not what's bad about the column.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link

at least he did some shoe leather reporting on this one. He could have just written about the scene in the Wire where the kids go to a fancy restaurant.

President Keyes, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link

u guys keep getting my hopes up

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link

David Brooks: This sandwich has lettuce. It's leaves you can eat.
Idiot friend (went to non-Ivy League college): ME NO EAT LEAF! NO LETTRUS!

— Pixelated Boat (@pixelatedboat) July 11, 2017

flopson, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link

Typical Brooks nonsense, but I'm surprised there are so many presumably sensible people in the twitterverse who are equally baffled by Italian cold cuts.

― Moodles, Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:33 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm... confused... then again this is why they keep him on, he's eminently hateable

flappy bird, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link

Ime if you don't live somewhere with a heritage of Italian immigration you won't know what those things are. Maybe salami. Maybe not.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link

exactly^^ brooks conflates regional differences w/class distinctions

busy bee starski (m coleman), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link

but he assumes a lot, i mean tastes change. my non-elite midwestern relatives eat sushi now.

busy bee starski (m coleman), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link

Any actual Italian neighborhood would blow his mind apparently. Which is insane.

xp yes of course. Same here. :)

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link

hey i never ate anything other than iceberg lettuce until college where was this funky GREEN STUFF (romaine) on the salad bar, google caesar chavez/lettuce boycott for details

busy bee starski (m coleman), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link

also it's obvious that this "friend" does not exist

flappy bird, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link

composite of the many people who didn't attend college he's lunched with over the years

busy bee starski (m coleman), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link

then why wasn't the meat bologna

j., Tuesday, 11 July 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link

When yours truly, the urbane, worldly Alabamian, and my buddy from the Detroit burbs who was fluent in Japanese, took our no-college-degree having asses to the Okonomiyaki joint in San Francisco that was called Okonomiyaki, and we had a bunch of our no-college-degree having fellow enlisted folks with us, we would help explain the menu items to them, so that nobody got any jump scares from the bonito flakes or the tempura veggies. The point being if you are "friends" with a person then they should trust you to explain stuff to them without being a condescending shit, regardless of your class backgrounds or height or hairstyle or what ever the fuck, and you should be happy to help explain to them what the words in the foreign language are. Also, if you are "friends," then you might have an inkling of what they like to eat and which menu items would be good analogs to their favorite foods.

David Brooks has no friends, which is why his last column was about bailing, and this one is about taking his gardener out for lunch.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link

i do have a university degree but it's not in gabagool. like many people i have eaten in an italian deli, which is not a sign of class - italian deli sandwiches are often hearty and affordable. though I'm sure not in the bougie place brooks frequents.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link

but like also all those things are just fucking ham

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link

David Brooks has no friends, which is why his last column was about bailing, and this one is about taking his gardener out for lunch.

Tooth bomb.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link

'instinctively, i led her into a gourmet sandwich shop / i don't know why but I had to start it somewhere'

Haha

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

lost Morrissey lyric

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link

I want to eat with the common people

President Keyes, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

Trump: This Russia thing is busting wide open. What can possibly distract from it?
Bannon: (Pause) I have an idea. Get me David Brooks....

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) July 11, 2017

If I did a Patreon campaign to raise money for David Brooks fan fiction, would you support?

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) July 11, 2017

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link

loathe to credit matty glesias but this does look like the place brooks was talking about

I think the infamous sandwich summit took place at Radici on Capitol Hill. pic.twitter.com/fhlYs1YGaV

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) July 11, 2017

it's also a really bad menu and having to untangle what different sandwiches are, when the descriptions are _bad_, when you're already having to deal with eating lunch with david brooks is a bit much. don't think that has anything to do with education level

mh, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link

It’s not really the prices that ensure 80 percent of your co-shoppers at Whole Foods are, comfortingly, also college grads; it’s the cultural codes.

For real tho, it's the prices.

prices + locations imo

mh, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link

No kidding. My sister-in-law recommended some random bullshit chicken salad at Whole Foods to us because she was trying to seduce us into the paleo lifestyle; it was bland as fuck and cost $18/lb. I have refused to set foot in one in the intervening 2.5 years.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link

(Here you can glimpse the Brooks imagination at work, visualizing people without college degrees wandering scared and confused through the aisles of Whole Foods, gaping at exotic items like peanut butter and apple butter and butter.)

I'm sure I'm biased because I'm Italian, but that Yglesias post is exactly what I was talking about. That menu just reads like a bunch standard Italian sandwich stuff and it describes the sandwiches fairly clearly, but I guess people freeze in terror when confronted with scary Italian words? Did the Mexican restaurant they went to use words like tacos, tortillas, queso, etc.? Is there a difference I'm missing? Both cuisines have been a part of US culture for a long time.

Moodles, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link

parentheticals on menus should be a strict no-no, that's practically the blink tag of menu UX

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link

My own personal bias is that you should shop at Whole Foods because my sis works at an SF location, so please give her money, even if indirectly. (That said, I don't shop at one myself; I am a horrible person.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link


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