SPIN Alternative Record Guide (1995) Top 100 Alternative Albums (51-100)

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Most of these seem like 2nd tier bands or 3rd or 4th best albums by decent bands. Can't get too excited about them for the most part. Would probably vote for Maggot Brain, one of the few exceptions.

o. nate, Friday, 14 April 2017 19:03 (seven years ago) link

New Order for me. This half of the list isn't as strong as the first

josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 14 April 2017 20:13 (seven years ago) link

Clean just barely above Scratch. I love this list of records

the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 14 April 2017 22:45 (seven years ago) link

One of these, leaning towards Rust

52 Pixies Surfer Rosa 1988
53 Prince Dirty mind 1980
57 Liz Phair Exile in Guyville 1993
60 Devo Q: Are we not men? A: We are Devo 1978
61 Neil Young Rust never sleeps 1979
62 Violent femmes Violent femmes 1983
64 Hüsker dü New day rising 1985
68 Boogie down productions Criminal minded 1987
70 New York dolls New York dolls 1973
71 Go-betweens 1978-1990 1990
75 Funkadelic Maggot brain 1971
87 A Tribe called quest The low end theory 1991
90 Roches The Roches 1979
92 Nirvana In utero 1993

human music...I like it! (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 April 2017 22:48 (seven years ago) link

too many compilations

human music...I like it! (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 April 2017 22:59 (seven years ago) link

Ubu vs Abba

Raul Chamgerlain (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 April 2017 23:39 (seven years ago) link

Maggot Brain

Odysseus, Saturday, 22 April 2017 13:51 (six years ago) link

But could be any of these

Husker Du - New Day Rising
Black Flag - Damaged
Neil Young Rust never sleep
Pere Ubu The modern dance 1978
Pixies Surfer Rosa 1988
Prince Dirty mind 1980
Stooges The Stooges 1968
Joy division Closer 1980
New York dolls New York dolls 1973
Descendents Milo goes to college 1982
Funkadelic Maggot brain 1971
Big black Atomizer 1986
Sun Ra The heliocentric worlds of Sun Ra : volume 1 1965
Nirvana In utero 1993
Smashing pumpkins Siamese dream 1993
Sebadoh Sebadoh III 1991

Odysseus, Saturday, 22 April 2017 13:56 (six years ago) link

Lol that you would vote for most of those over Maggot Brain.:)

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Saturday, 22 April 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link

Do you know Sharrock, btw, Odysseus? You'd probably like him if no, esp Ask the Ages, maybe Black Woman.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Saturday, 22 April 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link

I'd go Maggot Brain then Flipper 'Generic' myself, but there are plenty of records I like in that list.

Ask the Ages is a good one to check out as it is also with Pharaoh Sanders and Elvin Jones. I like it better than that Guitar record. Tauhid is a Sanders record from the 60s that Sharrock plays on too that is a good listen.

earlnash, Saturday, 22 April 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link

yes I have a few Sonny Sharrock cd's

Odysseus, Saturday, 22 April 2017 14:22 (six years ago) link

My fave sharrock is the Herbie Mann album he plays on ;)

I somehow missed Flipper on that list so yeah add them too

Odysseus, Saturday, 22 April 2017 14:23 (six years ago) link

we'll keep well bred
we'll stay well fed
we'll have our sons
they will be all well hung...

nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 22 April 2017 14:28 (six years ago) link

My fave sharrock is the Herbie Mann album he plays on ;)

Memphis Underground is fantastic!

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Saturday, 22 April 2017 15:03 (six years ago) link

I wonder, does anyone still listen to that first Violent Femmes album? I'd probably choose it based on its impact in the 80s-90s, but I don't know if I'll ever listen to it again (and I also don't know if anyone else will). Clinic seem like the torch leader in terms of Femmes influence, though it's somewhat oblique, and I don't know if anyone listens to Clinic anymore either. As far as albums to listen to today, maybe Flipper? Life and Ever never seem to get old.

dlp9001, Saturday, 22 April 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link

Sharrock played on several Mann albums (also some by his colleagues in the Mann band, mainly Roy Ayers, I think); the best I've heard is indeed Memphis Underground. Voted for Wanna Buy A Bridge because where else can I hear those artists performing those compatible songs, in one place? Time travelers on a day trip, be sure to check.

dow, Saturday, 22 April 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link

fwiw that's the only album on the 100 that's never been issued on CD

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 22 April 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link

Obviously the VU Live 1969, such a great album to listen to. So cool and relaxing. And I love Lou's banter on it. I would have gone for Pere Ubu or Joy Division but those albums on the list are not the ones I am crazy about.

Alex in Spree-Athen (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 22 April 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link

That is a fine album, and I found it fascinating the way it showed this supposedly anti-"rootsy" band (well, the way Lou used to talk about hippies and "California trash") actually fitting into the family tree just fine, without loosing its place---oh yeah, somewhere there's a thread where Dan Selzer talks about WBAB almost coming out on CD (would have been on Acute, I think), but the death of Nikki Sudden left the Swell Maps track uncleared---might have been more to it, but pretty sure he mentioned that part.

dow, Saturday, 22 April 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link

(Of course there is or was at least one CD bootleg.)

dow, Saturday, 22 April 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link

fwiw that's the only album on the 100 that's never been issued on CD

― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, April 22, 2017 2:55 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Also the only album that can't really be found anywhere in the book (besides a stray mention in X-Ray Spex entry when discussing Essential Logic)

the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 24 April 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

yep!

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 24 April 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

Flatlanders over Tribe & Big Star

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 24 April 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link

I love the majority of these, Vile Femmes excepted. But the one that's given me the most musical pleasure o'er the years is Have Moicy! by The Unholy Modal Rounders with Michael Hurley and featuring Jeffrey Frederick and The Clamtones. The last of whom also made a wonderful very left field country lp called Spiders in the Moonlight, which also comes highly recommended. Xgau wrote a nice bit on HM! at the time. One of the Ol Deans more perceptive pieces in terms of very
Out of the mainstream music. Pretty sure it's on his,admittedly excellent website.

VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Monday, 24 April 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link

I feel like I should listen to one of these a week for the next 12 months

the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 24 April 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link

Closer.

Austin, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 00:33 (six years ago) link

oh yeah, somewhere there's a thread where Dan Selzer talks about WBAB almost coming out on CD (would have been on Acute, I think), but the death of Nikki Sudden left the Swell Maps track uncleared---might have been more to it, but pretty sure he mentioned that part.

Wasn't so much the clearance that was the issue with Swell Maps. The clearance problems were the Pop Group and Robert Wyatt, both owned/controlled by major labels who make things difficult. Then on top of that losing Nikki who was my connection to the Swell Maps and Epic Soundtracks track i was going to put on the appendix bit, at first I wasn't about to try to reach out to his family to discuss this stuff, and eventually due to the other clearance problems I gave up on the project.

dan selzer, Saturday, 29 April 2017 10:31 (six years ago) link

Some of the Best is a good compilation that's of course been totally obliterated by basically every single subsequent Perry comp (and was probably so even at the time). Issue with a few of the comps on here.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 29 April 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 12 May 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

I know this is Joy Division but voting Violent Femmes anyways.

the future is now, Friday, 12 May 2017 01:37 (six years ago) link

Fuck, I missed Smashing Pumpkins.

the future is now, Friday, 12 May 2017 01:47 (six years ago) link

is that Freedy in the photo w/ Adam Carolla?

alpine static, Friday, 12 May 2017 06:10 (six years ago) link

yeah

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 May 2017 14:26 (six years ago) link

how the fuck have i never listened to pere ubu?

marcos, Friday, 12 May 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link

the modern dance is amazing wow

marcos, Friday, 12 May 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link

i saw black eyes a bunch of times when i lived in dc and i never knew they basically took their whole thing from this record

marcos, Friday, 12 May 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link

yeah, Pere Ubu are amazing! If you like that record make sure you get all the singles from around that time and just before.

I saw Black Eyes once when I came down to DJ between bands when they opened for the Rapture. I like to pretend I introduced Ital to house music that night.

dan selzer, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link

yeah, the Smog Veil site's newsletter is a good source of Ubu and related reissues/prev. unreleases; also, though I don't always hear things like xgau does, he pretty much nails this
early collection of even earlier stuff:
Terminal Tower: An Archival Collection [Twin/Tone, 1986]
Side one is the long unavailable Datapanik in the Year Zero EP, itself comprising two indie singles and a compilation cut and as powerful a sequence as side one of Dub Housing nevertheless. Side two collects the kind of oddments that rarely cohere on LP, yet here the outtakes and B sides and stray singles come together as a record of David Thomas's slide or progress from willed optimism to blessed whimsy. In short, this is a gift from God--a third Ubu album from the former Crocus Behemoth's pre-God period. A-
He means third pre-G after The Modern Dance and Dub Housing, but also likes New Picnic Time and several others from DT's Jehovah's Witness prime time, before the art-rock further complicated/maybe took over the layers.

dow, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

Allen Ravenstine's solo/sidetrip mid-70s-recorded Terminal Drive is out soon, via Smog Veil.

dow, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 13 May 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

Hey, I wasn't the only Sebadoh III voter!

On Some Faraday Beach (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 13 May 2017 00:05 (six years ago) link

The Beat deserved at least one vote...

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 13 May 2017 03:22 (six years ago) link

Hey, I wasn't the only Have Moicy! voter. Just being a smartass.

VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Saturday, 13 May 2017 05:07 (six years ago) link

I was the only Beck voter :(

Probably would have been smarter to join team Devo and I'm probably coming around that way anyway ok my old age

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 13 May 2017 11:12 (six years ago) link

I knew I should've for the Upsetters :(

the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 13 May 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link

Also, Modern Dance is fucking killer! I listened to it a couple times before but have mostly just stuck to Dub Housing in recent times, but man does it hit both the 'avant' and 'rock' sweet spots just right

the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 13 May 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link


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