Wow, that first link (from 4 yrs ago) still works. And is awesome.
― SQUIRREL WITH A PEOPLE FACE (╓abies), Sunday, 3 May 2009 12:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
Oh yeah its UBU web, its gonna work
Here is an Ashley interview ahead of next Wednesday's concert.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 May 2009 13:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
thanks for the link.i can't wait 'til the next Ashley performance in NYC--god knows when it will be, but the last three were amazing (despite some fuck-ups on Buckner's part, but whatev.)
― ian, Sunday, 3 May 2009 19:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
I'll read as many sneak preview quotes from his upcoming book on Ashley as Gann decides to post - http://www.artsjournal.com/postclassic/2009/06/drawing_the_connections.html#comments
"The only thing that's interesting to me right now is that, up to me and a couple of other guys, music had always been about the eventfulness: like, when things happened, and if they happened, whether they would be a surprise, or an enjoyment, or something like that... It's about eventfulness. And I was never interested in eventfulness. I was only interested in sound. I mean, just literally, sound in the Morton Feldman sense.... There's a quality in music that is outside of time, that is not related to time. And that has always fascinated me... That's sort of what I'm all about, from the first until the most recent. A lot of people are back into eventfulness. But it's very boring. Eventfulness is really boring."
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 18 June 2009 19:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
cool, looking forward to this!
― ❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Thursday, 18 June 2009 19:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ooooh, had no idea this was in the works. Looks awesome.
― ian, Thursday, 18 June 2009 19:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
three men have loved here--one a decade on the average.
― ian, Thursday, 16 July 2009 02:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
Busted out Automatic Writing recently, man what piece. How rarely do you come across that "What's going on here?" sort of feeling.
Love this bit from Steven Stapleton:
"A Missing Sense was originally conceived as a private tape to accompany my taking of LSD. When in that particular state, Robert Ashley's Automatic Writing was the only music I could actually experience without feeling claustrophobic and paranoid. We played it endlessly; it seemed to become part of the room, perfectly blending with the late night city ambience and the 'breathing' of the building."
Taking acid and listening to Automatic Writing is not my idea of a good time, but to each his own.
― Mark, Thursday, 16 July 2009 02:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
A Missing Sense is a great record! Or, I guess i have it on tape. whatever.
Three men have loved her. One a decade, on the average.
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― ian, Thursday, 16 July 2009 02:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
looking forward to Kyle Gann's book on Ashley
― matinee, Friday, 17 July 2009 00:02 (3 years ago) Permalink
hope he's writing this as fast as he's blogging about it, I can't wait to read it
one of his earlier blog posts mentions the first complete performance of 'Perfect Lives' at Northwestern University, the tape lost somewhere in their archives:
It was my favorite version of Perfect Lives ever, just Bob and "Blue" with a drone on a background tape, before Jill Kroesen and David Van Tieghem and a dozen other elements were added in for a kind of information overload. It was still like his "Yellow Album" that came out that year.
idea of all seven parts played live in the manner of that first LP makes me want to buy a plane ticket & offer to help them look for that tape
― Milton Parker, Friday, 7 August 2009 22:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
really looking forward to kyle's book on ashley.
this may seem weird but this article changed my life:
stumbled across it as a clueless 17 year old not really wanting to pursue classical music any further. i read this and it opened up a whole new world for me.
― Crackle Box, Friday, 7 August 2009 23:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
Gann's book "American Music" is hands-down the best book on new music ever written-- very expensive, as I remember it, but one hell of a book. funnily enough, i leant it out to a professor of mine and am having dinner with her tonight, so i can finally have it with me again.
― nice! he have the balls to say the truth! (the table is the table), Friday, 7 August 2009 23:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
But isn't Morton Feldman's sense of sound filtered through his erm 'elastic' feel for time's passage?!?
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 8 August 2009 17:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
Can't wait for Gann's book.
― ian, Saturday, 8 August 2009 22:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
Carl's still president over at the bank, ain't he?
― ian, Friday, 11 September 2009 01:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
What's that Ashley opera set at the airport, with the couple who've had the fight in Mexico or wherever and they're both leaving, and the voices are all treated? I sort of regret not buying that when I saw it used, now.
― bamcquern, Friday, 11 September 2009 01:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
I think that one is "Improvement (Don Leaves Linda)" maybe? I'm not super familiar with it tbh.
― ian, Friday, 11 September 2009 01:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, Don Leaves Linda. Not sure what the hang up at the listening station was. It's weird when art hooks you long after you've rejected it. I remember doing that with this early-ish Kundera story, recently. You don't even realize how fundamental something is until you go away and it comes back to you under your hypnagogic state.
― bamcquern, Friday, 11 September 2009 01:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
disc 2 of Improvement is where it catches fire. disc 2 track 4/5, 'The Doctor' / 'The Offering Of Images', that's one of my all time favorite Ashley pieces. and 'Tarzan', that's a truly strange song.
― Milton Parker, Friday, 11 September 2009 01:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
'in that pwermanent state of wapture you are mentally OK'
― Milton Parker, Friday, 11 September 2009 02:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
has this been posted before?
― plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 22 November 2009 00:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
new Ashley book out 12/15/09: "Outside of Time"http://www.lovely.com/books/bookslist.html#anchor1307922
Q'est-ce que c'est?????
― My Parents Named Me Zbigniew, Sunday, 22 November 2009 05:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
more great posts as he moves towards the book
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 11 February 2010 00:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
― plax (ico), Friday, 13 August 2010 10:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
god the new one is really something
definitely the most straightforward one in a little while as far as the narratives are concerned, and hamilton's music really fits with it this time around
I saw Ashley & Humbert perform the last two of these live at Mills about ten years ago. but the first piece is so disjointed and crazy it might even be my favorite, his voice has gotten so strange, the sound of someone drifting off to sleep at the end of every single sentence he speaks
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 22:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
what's the new one?
― jed_, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 22:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
its a sequel (?) to atalanta, i havent heard it.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 22:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
plax linked it -- evidently Atalanta is staged with modular stories which are faded up and down at different moments, making every performance slightly different, and the new album is 3 of the complete stories presented all the way through.
before this one, I liked 'Foreign Experiences' the most of all the ones he's put out in the last 10 years -- it's really paranoid, has a high density of memorable lines -- though that one's more a Sam Ashley showcase than a Robert one. and 'Now Eleanor's Idea' takes a bit of work, but by the end of the last 20 minute piece, it really pays off. 'Dust', 'Celestial Experiences' & 'Concrete' are all kind of samey ensemble operas with good moments but some of the musical settings just kind of snap me out of the mood
the new one though, played it four times in the last week already
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 22:37 (2 years ago) Permalink
ok, i wasn't sure if you were talking about the same release.
but atalanta 2 seems to be parts of the original opera that didn't make it on to disc first time around so are they new recordings or old?
i haven't loved any of them after Improvement, and i really loved that, although i liked bits and pieces.
― jed_, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
bits and pieces of the stuff that came after that, i mean.
the stories date from the original opera but these are new recordings
though they're very very similiar to the versions I remember from the Mills concert 10 years ago -- might be exactly the same backing music. but you can tell these are recent recordings, ashley has never sounded this diffuse. or... old, basically
it's odd how my favorite two of the recent deluge of Ashley sets have been the ones that showcase other performers, Sam Ashley & Joan LaBarbara, so even on those, you kind of feel like something's missing (i.e. Bob). but the first disc on the new one is ALL about his voice. the second disc of the new one is mostly a Jacqueline Humbert showcase, even most of the stories clearly come from her, but Ashley's punchlines every few seconds are the glue
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 23:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
Somehow I thought "Improvement" was much later than it was. Scratch my previous point about not loving anything that came after it.
― jed_, Thursday, 19 August 2010 19:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
Milton, does the section known as "flying Saucer Dialogue" (which was on the "Music from Mills"compilation) turn up on this new release? i absolutely love that. who is the woman on that?
-Particles of what?-Paticles of the subject, Sir-Coming up through the monitors?...-Where is it now?-Who knows?-That tone is not allowed, Lieutenant -I'm sorry, Sir-The answer then?-It comes and goes...-Intermittent?-Precisely, Sir
― jed_, Saturday, 21 August 2010 17:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
no, that's just another bizarre satellite track. the woman is a very young jacqueline humbert, and the keyboards / sound design is paul shorr so that track is kind of like a trial run for the original recording of atalanta in 1985
Flying Saucer has come to Earth for important information concerning humans: The Marriage of Atalanta. Problem: Apples.
― Milton Parker, Saturday, 21 August 2010 20:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
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― peacocks, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah, i've become near-obsessed with ashley in the past year and a half; this is pretty welcome right now.
― mike powell, Saturday, September 15, 2007 6:08 AM (3 years ago)
world = small
― sarahel, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Saturday, 4 December 2010 04:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
i mean... titanically.
you know you've got to hold me tighter yeah
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Saturday, 4 December 2010 04:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
In Sara, Mencken, Christ and Beethoven There Were Men and Women
this totally kicked my ass at work this morning around 8 A.M.
― sleeve, Saturday, 4 December 2010 07:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
i always think it would be fun to rerecord sarah mencken replacing the names w/ my friends names
― plax (ico), Saturday, 4 December 2010 22:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
o_O where do you work?
― jed_, Saturday, 4 December 2010 22:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
haha it was on my iPod, just playing shuffle in the AM - I work by myself for most of my shift.
― sleeve, Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
I found Private Parts, Perfect Lives (Private Parts): The Bar, Automatic Writing, and Perfect Lives (Private Parts): Music Word Fire And I Would Do It Again (Coo Coo) at the community radio station I volunteer at. Kind of overwhelmed with Ashley at the moment. I listened to all of them (in the order above) last night. Automatic Writing was my least favorite, but I was listening to it pretty quietly cuz I didn't want to bug my neighbors upstairs. Maybe if I cranked it up I would like it more. The other three pretty much floored me. The increasing complexity from record to record really engaged me, I was expecting them to all sound like Private Parts. But The Bar immediately destroyed that impression. It's really psychedelic. I felt altered just listening to it. And then Music Word Fire sounded like some lost Arthur Russell underground dance jam.
It's all pretty much brand new to me. I've just looked up his discography and see that I've only been exposed to a small portion of it. I've heard Tyranny's Out of the Blue and The Intermediary, but it is pretty clear that there is a whole lot more music to discover out of this "scene" for lack of a better word.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 27 May 2011 13:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
love the bar!
I know my thing is to complain about shit I didn't go to but I missed him when he came to providence this year, I think elmo went tho?
here's a tv series ashley produced on the "scene" back in the 70s, see you in 14 hours
― bandcamper van beethoven (Edward III), Friday, 27 May 2011 13:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Trip Maker, Friday, 27 May 2011 14:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
Truly love Robert Ashley; one of my all-time heroes. Saw him a few years back performing with his ensemble three nights in a row.
Trips, do you know Atalanta? That is the one that for me really kind of blows my mind. It's incredibly dense and the narrative qualities are harder to follow than ever, but it's mindblowing and gorgeous and just sounds really cool..
The Perfect Lives DVD set is highly recommended as well.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, 27 May 2011 14:55 (1 year ago) Permalink