OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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yeah they should stick to their lane of lefty politics and whatever this was

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 12:54 (seven years ago) link

lol i didn't think soulja boy on "delirious" was that bad but yeah it was def unnecessary :X

but otm re: that kind of pairing

dyl, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link

Not writing, but on his podcast the great Wesley Morris went on a riff about how we're in a musical period as great as the 70s with Kendrick as Stevie Wonder and Drake as Fleetwood Mac, with Views as his Tusk that just made my head explode.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:29 (seven years ago) link

barf

SSN Lucci (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link

Finally, a TUSK we can call our own

SSN Lucci (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link

I don't remember Fleetwood Mac sucking all to be damned

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:35 (seven years ago) link

a drake is a male duck

Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:41 (seven years ago) link

I don't remember Fleetwood Mac sucking all to be damned

I do.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:42 (seven years ago) link

drake is rap's phil collins only i still don't like him

Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:14 (seven years ago) link

he's the phil collins era of genesis but only the song "illegal alien"

a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:27 (seven years ago) link

ok, not really, but that's the worst collins-related thing that came to mind

a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:27 (seven years ago) link

the article itself is not really noteworthy but the title made me want to crawl into the crypt:

"Shawn Mendes' 10 Best Deep Cuts"

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 24 April 2017 13:21 (six years ago) link

there's only one shawn mendes deep cut I'd care to hear about tbh

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 24 April 2017 13:36 (six years ago) link

going to show *some* restraint and not post about this on Twitter, but this is seriously one of the biggest self-inflated music-related clickbait abortions I've ever seen

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7768061/100-greatest-choruses-21st-century

Like, bear with me and ignore that the company that literally uses MATH to decide what America enjoys saying that some Sufjan Stevens song is somehow a more important/indelible chorus than Flo Rida. Also, ignore that it completely ignores "Uptown Funk" which carried TWO DIFFERENT HITS. Also, ignore whatever insane millennial retcon job where world-changing, wedding standards songs like like "Hey Ya" and "Crazy" and "Hips Don't Lie" and "Single Ladies" and "I Gotta Feeling" and "Happy" are all not "good" enough choruses to make this list because the staff at America's chart-pop music authority actually(?) somehow thinks that Mika and The Knife need those slots.

Ignore all that.

What makes this bad, irresponsible, deceptive and outright factually incorrect is that the list makes no effort to actually say where the melodies and music come from. Its gross, lazy, and def of a piece with the Donald Trump era where facts are worthless

To wit:
--The "Get Low" entry makes no mention of the fact that "To the windows, to the walls" was actually from a black fraternity chant
--The "Paper Planes" entry makes no mention of the fact that the hook is actually a repurposed line from Wrecks N Effect's mega-hit "Rumpshaker"
--The "Drop It Like It's Hot" entry makes no mention of the fact that the phrase was born out of New Orleans rap music and, although I am no expert and would have to check, likely has an deeper history in New Orleans bounce music

At it's best the whole endeavor is millennial laziness cynically exploited by a company wealthy enough to buy Spin and Vibe, at worst it's a gaggle of white writers actively erasing black voices.

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link

we felt it was time that to start figuring out the new canon

^ their first mistake

j., Tuesday, 25 April 2017 14:54 (six years ago) link

we felt it was time that

to start figuring out

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link

i read through that whole list and i feel that much more cretinous now

j., Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:16 (six years ago) link

beating canons into shares

Brexectile dysfunction (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:16 (six years ago) link

blessed are the canonmakers, for they shall be really short on irl friends

Brexectile dysfunction (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link

can't really say anything about this

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link

first time for everything i guess

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link

whiney

whiney

this list is obviously a load of nonsense but you've literally reached the point where you're gunning for the black eyed peas over the knife

imago, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link

karin andersson came BARRELLING down the hill yelling "NO!" at the black eyed peas, who were forced to jump into the east river

imago, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link

drake is rap's phil collins only i still don't like him

― Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Thursday, April 20, 2017 12:14 PM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm contractually obligated to point out he's def a top 20 rock drummer of all time easy

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link

nah man Drake's top 30 AT BEST!

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

amazing how the most anodyne fucking comment possible still gets me insulted for no reason

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link

Aw, it was an open goal, k, nothing but love

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEXMJfvuQcQ

j., Tuesday, 25 April 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

that's the first time i've ever heard those trivia, they are interesting and I'm glad I know em but I wouldn't begrudge someone for not knowing them and not writing about them.

flopson, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link

I dont think "trivia" is the right word though? I think these things are all absolutely integral in understanding the main conceit of the story!

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link

Like Diplo eventually collaborating with an actual member of the Clash on a Converse ad is "trivia." M.I.A. detourning the melody and lyrics of 90s butt-shaking song to be about globalism is 100% integral to what makes is a good chorus

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link

trivia or not, i've been able to enjoy all those choruses without knowing those facts. also, i googled for like 2 mins and couldn't find ANY piece of writing (aside from your ilx post and whosampled.com) that mentions them

flopson, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link

I hate to encourage the circular entropic flow of information between people writing chart articles and fucking genius.com, but genius does have the rumpshaker ref re:MIA

the "get low" annotations are worthless

a landlocked exclave (mh), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link

less than five google searches and I get from "to the windows, to the walls" to this article, which at least cites a 1994 track

asking people writing articles on pop culture to do more than two google searches is nearly impossible afaict

a landlocked exclave (mh), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link

I mean it's not really a lack of googling, more just the whole regurgitated received wisdom with a chyme gloss of celebrity gossip and fun blog voice thing, but

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

I guess writing doesn't necessarily imply anyone did research

a landlocked exclave (mh), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link

I mean, honestly, on one level there's the skill of digging into some material, which used to be paging through Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature and hoping nothing really recent was relevant, and hopefully being able to have a couple sources that weren't just churn off the same article. (middle school library nerd here)

Now the actual digging is much easier with google, but the critical skills to find original sources to determine if you've found a traceable fact or just the same half-dozen people regurgitating one questionable source gets tricky.

I guess if you're churning out stuff in the ol' billboard post mill it might not matter

a landlocked exclave (mh), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link

that owns

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 04:39 (six years ago) link

San Francisco's on the Trump Train, baby

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 04:50 (six years ago) link

That openness reverberates through “Want You Back”’s verses, which have a Don Henley glimmer and a Christine McVie yearning

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link

can't see what's particularly bad about that

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:52 (six years ago) link

they forgot to work in a Twin Peaks reference too

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:56 (six years ago) link

i hate to give mr. thenardlebop any attention at all, but this is so egregious how is he this uninformed

And here we have one of the ugliest attempts at capitalizing on the Caribbean craze: pic.twitter.com/U4ZtKtUkFy

— Thee Anthony Fantano (@theneedledrop) May 3, 2017


@theneedledrop Wow man .. ugly attempt at Caribbean ? Man that's Afro beat that's my naija culture . I was born into this sound . This is OUR sound

— Wale (@Wale) May 3, 2017

austinb, Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:05 (six years ago) link

they forgot to work in a Twin Peaks reference too

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:56 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haim make pop-rock full of deliberate callbacks to '70s los angeles pop-rock i.e. what are you talking about

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link

make it a Mulholland Drive reference then

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:16 (six years ago) link

my point was, yes they make that style of music so obviously that one could have written that sentence without hearing a second of music.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:17 (six years ago) link

Jesus fuck fantano scolding wale unreal lack of awareness


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