Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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Glenn, still hearing those voices in my left speaker while listening to Stained Class -- the dog next door told me it's bothering him too. Fix in the works?

pplains, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 04:47 (seven years ago) link

is it the musician's commentary?

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 04:52 (seven years ago) link

pplains: weird, it's supposed to be the right channel. Which hemisphere is your ISP's DNS entry served from?

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 13:20 (seven years ago) link

You mean before or after Obama changed the global polarities?

pplains, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 13:24 (seven years ago) link

if the aluminum hat fits, wear it i suppose

Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 13:35 (seven years ago) link

Any chance Spotify could add a "play backwards" function? I really want to find out what Led Zeppelin has to say about Satan.

Vernon Locke, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 00:30 (seven years ago) link

they think he cool

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 13:03 (seven years ago) link

I'm a big Spotify fan, but the new ipad layout is so, so bad (it seems to just be a clone of the iphone UI), and so much worse than the previous version. I'm sure there's some logical explanation, but it's hard to imagine anyone thinking it's an improvement.

Dan I., Thursday, 13 April 2017 18:06 (seven years ago) link

Ugh ugh ugh - downloaded the latest version of the app and Spotify no longer allows you to shuffle all contents of a folder, which RUINS the way I've painstakingly organized my library. I've spent over a year organizing playlists by artist, methodically removing all bad songs, then nesting those folders inside genre folders which are placed inside folders organized by decade. Up until yesterday that yielded a lot of flexibility in what kind of shuffle mixes I could make. It all depended on the ability to shuffle within folders... so the usability of Spotify just took a severe nosedive.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 11:56 (seven years ago) link

I dunno about iOS apps but for desktop and android it shouldn't be too difficult downgrading to older versions

niels, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 12:06 (seven years ago) link

You can downgrade on desktop to the really great native client, but it's a pain in the ass (you have to try and stop it updating itself) and more and more non-core functionality is breaking.

stet, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 12:09 (seven years ago) link

I don't understand why the nest folder/playlist "play all" function went away either. I can understand not adding new features but taking away something that was established and that people liked and used *coughstarredplaylistcough* is such a strange thing to do.

musically, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 16:39 (seven years ago) link

My conspiracy theory is that spotify is degrading their service to drive down the overall number of tracks played so that they can pay less royalties.

Moodles, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 16:45 (seven years ago) link

xp, just "play' when on a folder works for me? maybe i have an outdated version.

Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 18:36 (seven years ago) link

It should still work on the desktop app, but is no longer available on mobile devices.

Moodles, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 18:57 (seven years ago) link

Boot up PC. Start Spotify. Spotify installs updates. Spotify allegedly loads. Endless spinning circle of dots. Can't close Spotify. Kill off the 4 mysterious Spotify processes in Task Manager. One won't stop. Try starting Spotify again. Spotify won't start because it is already running. try killing process again. Fail. Start up web player instead. Web player won't start because it thinks the desktop app is running. Reboot PC. Go back to step 1.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 20 April 2017 23:36 (seven years ago) link

You left out "contact Spotify support so they can fix your problem". Might be less frustrating with that extra step!

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 21 April 2017 00:12 (six years ago) link

Is anyone having issues with Spotify crashing while using the Amazon Fire Stick? It could be my internet connection too, perhaps

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Sunday, 23 April 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link

Bad idea: https://www.engadget.com/2017/04/24/spotify-building-its-own-hardware/

I hope someone there realizes how much money this will cost.

DJI, Monday, 24 April 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link

It also indicates that the hardware would be "a category defining product akin to Pebble Watch, Amazon Echo, and Snap Spectacles."

should i have heard of any of those?

✓ (Doctor Casino), Monday, 24 April 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link

I don't understand why the nest folder/playlist "play all" function went away either. I can understand not adding new features but taking away something that was established and that people liked and used *coughstarredplaylistcough* is such a strange thing to do.

― musically, Tuesday, April 18, 2017 9:39 AM (six days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It should still work on the desktop app, but is no longer available on mobile devices.

― Moodles, Tuesday, April 18, 2017 11:57 AM (six days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Just came here to post this W T F for real. This was a super basic functionality that I used daily and built my folder structure around....

Spottie, Monday, 24 April 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link

wow terrible idea going into hardware they kinda have no idea what they're doing over there do they?

Mordy, Monday, 24 April 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

Roku app dropped playlists completely about a month ago. Since then, I was only using it too search up specific artists or albums. Now any remaining functionality has also stopped working. So at this point, the Roku app just doesn't work at all.

Moodles, Monday, 24 April 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link

instead of their own hardware, spotify should follow through on the $15 a month hi-rez audio subscription tier and do a big partnership with Sonos to have it baked in w/Sonos

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 April 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link

I don't necessarily expect spotify to get hardware right, but I'm intrigued nonetheless

Moodles, Monday, 24 April 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link

If you want to do your own corporate mindreading, all these jobs are posted on our site. The Voice and NLU ones are even in my office in Boston.

https://www.spotify.com/us/jobs/opportunities/product/all/boston-ma-united-states/

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 02:05 (six years ago) link

I use the web app when I use it on my laptop (mostly an iOS app user). Is there a trick, on this new minimal UI, to finding where I can sort albums and playlists? I usually sort by recently added, but now it's just alphabetical. Kind of annoying. I haven't used the desktop app in forever, but as a Mac OS user I remember having to reinstall it constantly after updates, because of various bugs.

beard papa, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link

The desktop app has been improved quite a bit since forever ago, and I think it's safe to say it's better than the web UI. Maybe give it another try?

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link

My main frustration with the web player is not being able to access playlist folders. For whatever reason it ignores them and just displays the contents as a dirty great list. Makes shuffling folders impossible and adding to playlists a giant ballache. (My school won't let me download the desktop app and force me to use IE, the massive spanners.)

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link

So for the past 24 hours or so any song i try to play in Spotify on my iPhone just stops a few seconds (sometimes up to a minute) in. Then if I'm lucky it starts again after a few seconds of silence. Or not. Anyone else having this issue? And is there a quick fix? I've tried restarting the phone but I'd prefer to not have to reinstall the app since I have a lot of offline stuff on it.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 28 April 2017 07:24 (six years ago) link

iPad app change is weird - if it's slightly broke, break it some more

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 28 April 2017 07:29 (six years ago) link

Am I correct that one can make playlists available online in the 'my music' section if it's for iphone/ipad, but for the desktop app you need to make a playlist of the album and then make said playlist available offline? :-/

On Some Faraday Beach (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 28 April 2017 09:24 (six years ago) link

If notifications of artists I follow worked, I would never have to check stereogum again

calstars, Friday, 28 April 2017 11:31 (six years ago) link

It seems like Discover Weekly occasionally takes a metaphorical holiday and lets its pal Daily Mix fill in. This week was just a greatest hits, 25-26 songs I've known most of my adult life, nothing remotely new, several tracks that I've had multiple times before (Some Velvet Morning, Dancing in the Lesbian Bar, I Am The Cosmos, This Mortal Coil's version of Kangaroo, Lazy Line Painter Bloody Jane, etc).

Weird. DW really got good either side of Xmas from my PoV - dozen or more brand new acts (to me) every week. The algorithm is cruising again now.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 09:47 (six years ago) link

My gf is reporting the same thing. At least three of the tracks mentioned above, and wall-to-wall obviousness. Curious as to why this happens occasionally (though DW has been pretty weak for a month or two now).

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 10:31 (six years ago) link

I was very impressed with Release Radar, but recently seems to be morphing into Discover Weekly with a lot of artists I've never heard of or played before.

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 10:40 (six years ago) link

I gave up on Release Radar because the act of following it basically broke the Playlist access function on my Marantz streaming thing. It has become further broken recently (I imagine it's API changes that Marantz haven't kept on top of with firmware updates - my receiver is from 2013) - won't show any playlists that I didn't create, so no DW either - so now I just AirPlay to it from my phone. I should check out RR again.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 10:54 (six years ago) link

Mixed-up artist metadata: the garage rock Uniques, the Jamaican Uniques, and possibly also the doo wop Uniques are listed together under that not-so-unique name.

Brad C., Tuesday, 2 May 2017 12:04 (six years ago) link

I don't blame Discover Weekly, but just because I listen to Babe Ruth for a solid week doesn't mean I want to listen to an hour's worth of bands like Quicksilver Messenger Service on Friday.

pplains, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link

I kind of find the idea that I would want to listen to things that sound just like things I listened to recently insulting

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 14:21 (six years ago) link

I will get the non-unique Uniques fixed.

Release Radar picks artists you've followed and/or played first, but if it can't find enough of those with new releases in a given week, it does use the same suggestion logic as Discover Weekly as a backup to try to find you something else you might like.

I'll pass along the feedback about DW producing already-familiar songs.

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link

Oh, and what's the model number of your Marantz thing, Michael? In general older stuff is supposed to keep working with the new playlists, but maybe this one is an exception for some reason...

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link

Search function is working again on the roku app, so I can at least play music on it, but still no playlists.

Moodles, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link

DW works well more often than it doesn't, but President Keyes is correct - it does sometimes ape Amazon's "Say, you bought a bath mat recently. Here are 1,000 more." algorhythm.

pplains, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link

Glenn: it's a Marantz M-CR610. It's not a major pain, though I used to like navigating playlists on the device itself (or through its remote app) rather than relying on my phone/AirPlay. Now DW just shows up as "by" in the playlists and navigation is extremely slow. (It's not the M-CR611, which added Spotify Connect).

I don't expect DW to know that I'm a 48yo guy with way too much physical media, and, while I may not have chosen to play these songs through Spotify, I have played them to death since I was 20-something. But to keep giving me the same "core" songs (Chris Bell, Nancy & Lee, B&S, This Mortal Coil, Scott Walker, Lambchop, Slits, etc) may indicate a bit of a glitch somewhere (I've had Some Velvet Morning maybe four times since late 2015, six if you include covers). And now another friend has told me that their DW was basically a "hits of yr life" this week.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link

my DW last week was entirely 70's soul/funk/disco because I listened to a few hours of the ILM poll playlist

HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link

Yeah, most pre-Spotify-Connect devices can't understand the newer playlist formats that DW, RR and many of the Spotify editorial playlists use.

The thing about all the stuff you play outside Spotify is a subject of constant interest and discussion here, in many contexts. Some of the things that get labeled "recommendations" are really just as much attempts to infer the aspects of your existing taste that you haven't directly demonstrated to us. "You might also like" vs "You probably also already know".

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link

My most recent Discover Weekly had a LOT of stuff I've had before, including one song I had last week!

Animal Bitrate (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link

most artists pages giving me "Sorry, something went wrong."s on Android 7. Having more gos also not helping.

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link

For the second time for me (at least) this year, discover weekly has featured "spill the wine" twice in the same playlist. A song I already have on a playlist I've made, and that I know I've played in the last month.

I play a lot of old top 40s for a project these days, and those songs tend to be uploaded on Spotify in multiple slightly different versions, so I can't blame DW entirely for turning into "you played this grass roots hit, discover it on a different best-of." At least there are no shitty re-recordings this week. But still...wtf.

da croupier, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link


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