Slowdive - s/t (2017): let's rejoice, shall we?

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I don't know if the genre is 'intrinsically nostalgic,' or if it is, you might as well say that about a lot of music in general, whether it's rock or something else. In that there was often a perceived built in sense of retreat/reflection, that's one thing, but when you've got something like three generations of musicians now doing something with the form one way or another, is it nostalgia or extension? (Certainly, as with so much else, a lot of newer stuff simply recreates rather than fuses and inspires in new directions, but again, why hold them to particular account?)

Well, obviously you can feel nostalgic about any genre, but when it comes down to shoegaze I feel like some sense of nostalgia, longing, feeling of being young has been present throughout many of those shoegaze classics. I feel like that might be partly why Halstead is so surprised that young people are still listening to Slowdive - it probably felt to him like his music was capturing this youthful, exuberant emotions that by now are long gone, but then he found out that there is a new generation that is able to connect with this feeling. And I mean, yeah, you still have shoegaze bands putting out their music but at least when I think of shoegaze it's mainly those glimpses of great bands like MBV, Ride or Slowdive during early '90s that nobody really came close to ever after.

piramjida, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 17:41 (seven years ago) link

I think the first Mojave 3 album is the best one. Very very gentle and the closing track is very Slowdive.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 10 April 2017 22:20 (seven years ago) link

"Sugar For The Pill" sounds like it could have come from the Black Hearted Brother album, which I really liked

'Out of Tune' by Mojave 3 has ended up being one of my most loved albums. 'Excuses For Travellers' is also very good and the others have their moments.

The early Mojave 3 demos, that made up part of the first album were originally sent out under the Slowdive name. I was surprised to read that the first M3 album was released within 10 months of 'Pygmalion', it came together that quickly.

Would love a new Mojave 3 record one day, however I am looking forward to Slowdive too.

michaellambert, Monday, 10 April 2017 22:26 (seven years ago) link

xp i agree, it has a very different feel from the others. it's like slowcore. very atmospheric, great lead guitar tones

a but (brimstead), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 01:08 (seven years ago) link

The early Mojave 3 demos, that made up part of the first album were originally sent out under the Slowdive name. I was surprised to read that the first M3 album was released within 10 months of 'Pygmalion', it came together that quickly.

wow i didn't know this! will definitely have to dig into to m3

just another (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 02:00 (seven years ago) link

Sugar is something very special
And fuck the Coldplay comment because SD are 20 years older than them and experience counts for something

calstars, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 02:52 (seven years ago) link

the first four mojave 3 albums are all great, I didn't care for the last one

akm, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 03:31 (seven years ago) link

Out of Tune was the first one I bought. Still listen to it the most though Ask Me Tomorrow is close behind.

that's not my post, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 05:10 (seven years ago) link

These new songs are great.

Sam Weller, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 10:41 (seven years ago) link

I wasn't really sold on the singles but this album is great, it's a nice midpoint between Souvlaki and Pygmalion. highlights are probably "Go Get It" and "Don't Know Why"

ufo, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 09:31 (six years ago) link

Jealous of you guys hearing the album already! I can't wait

calstars, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 11:56 (six years ago) link

It's out there.. leaked super early

octobeard, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link

Rachel is going to be on KEXP tomorrow morning (John in the Morning show is doing an all shoegaze program 6-10 Pacific) if anyone has any interest.

van smack, Thursday, 20 April 2017 01:21 (six years ago) link

So far, spectacular. No new ground broken here but as shoegaze records go by reformed bands go, it'll probably beat your expectations.

yesca, Thursday, 20 April 2017 02:46 (six years ago) link

"Sugar For The Pill" is a gorgeous track

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Friday, 21 April 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link

seeing them tomorrow! at a gorgeous newly renovated old 1920s theater with what's supposed to be an amazing sound system. saw them last time at the worst venue in mpls so i'm pretty stoked

global tetrahedron, Monday, 1 May 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link

Remix of "Sugar For the Pill" by Avalon Emerson -- not bad

https://soundcloud.com/deadoceans/slowdive-sugar-for-the-pill-avalon-emersons-gilded-escalation/s-5gxmk

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link

Went to the show last night, no better or worse than the one I saw in 2014 (at the "worst venue in mpls"). Old hollowed out theater made for cool atmosphere, the sound was fine, and yet... my favorite of the reunited shoegaze bands I've seen is the one I've had the most trouble connecting with live. Just me?

geoffreyess, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link

cmon the fine line is pretty bad you have to admit

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link

The quotes weren't meant to suggest I was questioning your judgment. I used to hate that place (for blasting Muse right before a Deerhunter set, and other crimes) but I've been to a lot of great shows there in the past few years.

geoffreyess, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link

'don't know why' is killing me

del esdichado (NickB), Friday, 5 May 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link

this is a damn good album. there's nothing as good as Alison, but as a whole it seems to be as good as any of their other albums.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 5 May 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

not even close imo

imago, Friday, 5 May 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link

i don't know how many times i've listened to 'don't know why' today, but it is a lot of fucking times, that is for sure

del esdichado (NickB), Saturday, 6 May 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link

i had a very stupid and somewhat embarrasing thought about its structure - it's sort of like the lifecycle of a snowflake:
crystals forming on floating dust particles -> sudden blooming as flakes cohere -> the gradual surrender of melting -> final state of liquid non-being

del esdichado (NickB), Saturday, 6 May 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link

poor sad snowflakes ;_;

del esdichado (NickB), Saturday, 6 May 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link

this is a damn good album. there's nothing as good as Alison, but as a whole it seems to be as good as any of their other albums.

ā€• brotherlovesdub, Friday, May 5, 2017 2:41 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not even close imo

ā€• imago, Friday, May 5, 2017 2:53 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, but how many albums have songs as good as Alison?

passionate plant-based athlete (voodoo chili), Saturday, 6 May 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link

amazing record. I wasn't a huge fan of Slowdive back in the day so I'm comfortable asserting that "Star Roving" is as good as it gets.

yesca, Sunday, 7 May 2017 03:08 (six years ago) link

Anybody even partially slagging this off is talking absolute nonsense. This is easily their third best album.

Pretty fantastic stuff.

Austin, Sunday, 7 May 2017 05:11 (six years ago) link

i think this is easily better than pygmalion

passionate plant-based athlete (voodoo chili), Sunday, 7 May 2017 06:46 (six years ago) link

i think it's their second best, frankly

austinb, Sunday, 7 May 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link

i like this fine. I like all their albums in different ways, not so into ranking them.

akm, Sunday, 7 May 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link

very good comeback album

ciderpress, Sunday, 7 May 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link

This album has grown on me a lot. I'm not sure where I'd rank it right now. It could well be my second favourite. The only song I'm not totally sold on is the last one. The way the, "thinking about love" bit overlaps near the end seems a bit clumsy and grates after a while. Everything up to that point is very enjoyable.

kitchen person, Sunday, 7 May 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link

Dammit, I guess I really should hear this!! Is it better than the My Bloody Valentine comeback album?

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 7 May 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link

yes (i didn't like mbv that much)

austinb, Sunday, 7 May 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link

not remotely but give this a listen

imago, Sunday, 7 May 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link

My knee jerk reaction upon hearing mbv four years ago was basically, "Hmmph, guess they needed to wait for this sound to be fashionable again." Because it honestly sounded to me like the follow up recorded right after Loveless, just that they had waited to release it. As good as it is (and it **is** so good, so satisfying), it seemed kind of cold and calculated after the dust had settled.

But this new Slowdive, upon my knee jerk reaction, has me thinking it's a much more rewarding listen, just because of how it germinated and came to life. It feels to me a lot more. . . I don't know, earnest?

Both are really excellent records, but I think the comparisons between them stop at "shoegaze band that hasn't released a new album for a long time."

Austin, Sunday, 7 May 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

The only song I'm not totally sold on is the last one. The way the, "thinking about love" bit overlaps near the end seems a bit clumsy and grates after a while.

this is my only criticism of the album as well. though on my second listen through, it annoyed me less. i love everything else about that song

just another (diamonddave85), Sunday, 7 May 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link

Good comeback album, but not as GREAT as Portishead's comeback.

van smack, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 03:03 (six years ago) link

this album is incredible

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 03:34 (six years ago) link

Doesn't seem to be on their main site yet but there's a live session over on Pitchfork's FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/Pitchfork/videos/vb.28015075999/10155179953621000/?type=2&theater

groovypanda, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 10:40 (six years ago) link

Saw them last night, and despite technical issues at the beginning, they were fantastic. The production was pretty impressive too, with a complex light show and a smoke machine that actually added to the concert experience without being corny

meekseeks mill (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 13:23 (six years ago) link

A board veteran disapproves. (Said veteran is wrong.)

I have done extensive research into the rock music of the 1990s and genuinely cannot comprehend why anyone cares much about Slowdive

— Matthew Perpetua (@perpetua) May 10, 2017

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 13:33 (six years ago) link

but he's done the research

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 14:02 (six years ago) link

he calibrates his hot takes with his devotion to Radiohead

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link

Good comeback album, but not as GREAT as Portishead's comeback.

I agree with this sentiment. I think it was because Portishead evolved their style so much that it felt like a true followup and not a nostalgic look back to what once was. Really exciting record and they had a great live show to go with it, too. While this Slowdive album is certainly a progression, there's also a ton of nostalgia.

I guess Portishead are one and done with their comeback at this point. It's been what... nearly a decade since Third? Hope Slowdive has a few more in them.

octobeard, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link

Right. The problem is everyone else.

What's the phrase about how the truly insane people are that way because they have no grasp on how abnormal their own behavior is?

Austin, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link

xpost, obviously.

Austin, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link

Be on the lookout for "30th June", a 7.5 minute JP bonus track.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link

...which has never been named on ILM: The Soft Cavalry (Rachel and her husband Steve Clarke) is solid but leaves me wanting more of Rachel's voice.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 13 March 2021 04:51 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

they've confirmed they're playing new material live this year, hopefully that means we'll start hearing about the new album very soon too.

i've got a ticket to see them with modest mouse & tfs in april, very much looking forward to that

ufo, Saturday, 4 February 2023 00:16 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

confirmed on instagram that the new album is complete

ufo, Thursday, 13 April 2023 23:47 (one year ago) link

Awesome. Absolutely loved the 2017 album, so Iā€™m pumped for this.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 14 April 2023 01:55 (one year ago) link

Fantastic. Hope they will tour as well. The show supporting the 2017 album was brilliant.

that's not my post, Friday, 14 April 2023 03:01 (one year ago) link

For sure. Low opened up here, love an awesome double bill.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 April 2023 03:03 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

listings were accidentally put up early for the new album everything is alive out september 1. eight tracks including "shanty", "prayer remembered", "alife", "andalucia plays" and "kisses". according to the press release they've incorporated more electronics into their sound and john cale is cited as an influence

looking forward to seeing them next month after they cancelled the tour last minute in april

ufo, Thursday, 15 June 2023 07:19 (ten months ago) link


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