MOGWAI - Classic or Dud?

rock action as an album is quite good

then come on die young

there was a time when young team was my fave tho but i grew out of it (tracy still great track)

Details of the new album 'Every Country's Son' were announced this morning, out 1st September 2017. First track "Coolverine" sounds solid, if not immediately earth shattering.

Tracklisting: Coolverine, Party In The Dark, Brain Sweeties, Crossing The Road Material, aka 47, 20 Size, 1000 Foot Face, Don't Believe The Fife, Battered At A Scramble, Old Poisons, Every Country's Sun

I'm still very excited. Produced by Dave Fridmann, talk of at least one "pop" song, plus it's apparently a long album, so there should be an epic or two.

Because I was bored and because a mate (in Rutland) want a comp...

Mogwai Fear Rutland

Yes, I Am A Long Way From Home (Young Team)
Stanley Kubrick (EP + 6)
Glasgow Megasnake (Burning)
Kids Will Be Skeletons (Happy Songs)
Cody (CODY)
You Don't Know Jesus (Rock Action)
We're No Here (Mr Beast)
New Paths to Helicon Pt.1 (Govt. Commissions)
Ratts of the Capital (Happy Songs)
Punk Rock (CODY)
Mogwai Fear Satan (Young Team)
2 Rights Make 1 Wrong (Burning)
Superheroes of BMX (4 Satin)
Small Children in the Background (EP + 6)
My Father, My King (My Father My King EP)

35 minutes of official video from the 6 music live thing they did yesterday lunchtime. might be available in audio-only mode for foreigners. and i think it might be red-buttonable for those of you reading this on their televisions.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b097slq0/6-music-live-2017-7-mogwai

(red button appears to be finished: http://www.tvguide.co.uk/mobile/channellisting.asp?ch=636#268011962 )

God they're so boring. This cross the road tune they keep playing on 6music, you know exactly what it's going to do from the second it starts.

yeah the new album was a whole load of nothing

maybe, maybe 'party in the dark' was ok, they should just give up the whole post-rock thing

it's all been downhill since rock action tbh

i only have 'mr. beast', an album that rarely gets mentioned, so i guess that's indicative as to its place in the catalogue.

never listen to their records but generally catch them live

xp. their first bad album for me.

my friend worked in a record shop and gave me a mr beast t-shirt. it just said mogwai on the front, or so i thought. i put it on and went outside - in glasgow - and a wee ned shouted at me "hawl you, mr beast, ya mad paedo*" or words to that effect. as it said "Mr Beast" on the back.

*beast means paedophile or sexual offender in the west of scotland

Yeah, Mr Beast is where the rot set in for me: a combination of vastly diminishing returns and horrible overly-compressed production.

I still enjoy the first 3 LPs and the early EPs

*beast means paedophile or sexual offender in the west of scotland

blimey.
weird album title choice then.
to be honest, i don't think i have ever listened to it all way through before boredom sets in and i change it for something different.

Stuart Braithwaite did the album ranking thing a little while ago and very unusually for this sort of thing he seems to be pretty much right afaic

https://noisey.vice.com/en_uk/article/rkqn4y/rank-your-records-mogwai-stuart-braithwaite

For this LP I liked the first single, not that keen on the second at all, still hoping it will live up to the former but sounds like maybe I'm in for a disappointment.

with jim here, can't say i've cared about anything after rock action (which is their best)

I'm surprised to see fans of Rock Action (which is my favorite album of theirs), it's historically been dismissed on ILM. Anyway, this is most interesting thing I've heard about Mogwai in a long time:

And I think we’re gonna do a reissue of (Rock Action) with another CD of music, a lot of which people haven’t heard.

Agree with Stuart that Happy Songs is the best one, Rock Action probably second. I'll say it again, though: Music For A Forgotten Future is their finest hour (give or take their Earth remix)

Young Team only at #4 is insane. Yes, the band member is wrong about his own albums.

Young Team and CODY best ones by a mile imo.

Young Team only at #4 is insane. Yes, the band member is wrong about his own albums.

Young Team and CODY best ones by a mile imo.

― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, October 13, 2017 11:09 AM (twelve seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

aye.

and if you could include EPs ten rapid might be my favourite

Yeah def!

Young Team is great, but patchy. It has the much inferior version of Xmas Steps. HSFHP works better as an album, even if it doesn't have the hits. I would also say 10 Rapid is probably the best overall.

I mean CODY obviously

Young Team has the inferior version of Summer

‘Rock Action’ remains my favourite.

I agree they've been dull since Rock Action. Still a great live band, like.

I loved their soundtrack work for “Les Revenants”, so there’s that.

Hardcore Will Never Die is great, and seconded for Les Revenants (although it's very soundtracky). Quite like Rave Tapes, but Beast / Hawk etc are lifeless, and the new one is a non-event.

Hawk gets off to a wonderful start but then loses itself in noodling later on. Mr Beast is kind of all rubbish

*beast means paedophile or sexual offender in the west of scotland

blimey.
weird album title choice then.
to be honest, i don't think i have ever listened to it all way through before boredom sets in and i change it for something different.

― mark e, Friday, October 13, 2017 10:10 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

to clarify this: although beast is used to mean that and the members of mogwai will know that, i don't think that use of the word is the intent of the name of the album

Their most popular song on Spotify, by a factor of 2, is Kids Will Be Skeletons - absolutely one of their best songs, but I wonder why it's so disproportionately popular? Was it in Twilight or something

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Is_Strange

right gotcha. what about take me somewhere nice', that's second by miles...

Spotify isn't showing the popular songs in order of plays! Something called "Hungry Face" is in 8th place with 11 million plays.

Anyway, RA > CODY > 10 Rapid, then God Mr. Beast can have the rest.

right gotcha. what about take me somewhere nice', that's second by miles...

― imago, Friday, October 13, 2017 2:26 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

people love stuart's dulcet tones?

maybe the first Mogwai you hear is your favorite? that would be CODY for me.

Last June by chance I went out with Barry Burns until 4am, across the road from the lab where I first heard “Ex-Cowboy” about 20 years earlier. This was in Hobart, mind, which made it all pretty surreal.

They've always had a strong line in boring, e.g. you don't know jesus in rock action is pretty zzzz. But there's usually a non boring highlight on their albums, e.g. the sun smells too loud on the hawk is howling. The new one though is indeed snores from start to end.

those are pretty unusual choices for boring track and highlight imo! takes all sorts i guess

i learned that a long time ago yet it remains surprising.

The Sun Smells Too Loud was my takeaway from that album, as it happens. The rest dull as fuck.

Boring /= repetitive. Especially with this band. Boring = predictable, which is generally what they are on their more dynamic stuff.

The Nonkeen records from last year scratched the itch for me that Mogwai never have been able to.

you don't know jesus in rock action is pretty zzzz

waht this is like their best song! (After 2 Rights and Helicon 1.)

idk it was the one from rock action playing when i glanced at the screen thinking 'hurry up, when's 2 rights coming on?'

dude, that whole album is like 38 minutes long lol

there was a wee season or two after it came out that the sun smells too loud was always played at half time at celtic home games

was good pie-line muzak

I seem to have said pretty much the same thing twice above, but almost everything pre-CODY = classic, everything after that = dud. In particular 10 Rapid is their best album by a mile.

All the score in 'KIN' is created by one of our favorite bands in the world, Mogwai. Dream collaboration. You wait to you hear this album world. https://t.co/oaZlRCFkhE

— Jonathan & Josh Baker (@RedBikeBlueBike) April 27, 2018

the gwai have done another soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luM6oeCM7Yw
how does this have 70,000,000 views??

the comment section is basically an entire forum on depression and suicide ideation. not sure how this happened but there is your explanation. (reading further it seems 9gag has something to do with it, and that there's as much trolling as sincere outpouring)