Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

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this push to make non-us-born folks of any legal status terrified to ever interact with authorities seems like a great idea, no chance it'll be counter-productive at all

tony orlandoni, cheese engineer (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 31 March 2017 13:18 (seven years ago) link

Historically, the US has suffered zero blowback from shoving people around. People on the receiving end tend to assume that we know what's best and just go with the flow.

Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 March 2017 13:22 (seven years ago) link

Any updates on Mexico's threats to stop buying corn from us? They need to get on that ASAP.

Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 March 2017 13:24 (seven years ago) link

Whoops!

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/847784734818279424

NYT/WP report WH lawyer Michael Ellis helped Nunes

NBC: Did you help provide Devin Nunes w/ intel?

Ellis: “I’m not talking about anything”

...

WashPost reports top NSC lawyer John Eisenberg was also involved:

Eisenberg to NBC this a.m.: “I have no idea” … “I have nothing to say”

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 13:35 (seven years ago) link

This whole story is fun

https://www.axios.com/trump-baffled-and-brooding-searches-for-a-new-approach-2337876385.html

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 13:36 (seven years ago) link

i have zero doubt that these knucklehead ICE officers have targets. quotas. and have been given the go-ahead to be "clever". give people targets and they will figure out the most perverse ways of reaching them.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 31 March 2017 13:43 (seven years ago) link

it's utterly immoral what they did in kansas. fucking shit it makes my blood boil.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 31 March 2017 13:44 (seven years ago) link

Flynn not much of a 'witch hunt' when the dude is metaphorically flying around on a broom in front of us

Neanderthal, Friday, 31 March 2017 13:46 (seven years ago) link

84% of republicans approve of the job trump is doing.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 31 March 2017 13:51 (seven years ago) link

MARINATE ON THAT ONE

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 31 March 2017 13:51 (seven years ago) link

84% of republicans approve of the job trump is doing.

― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand),

which is why Dem incredulousness needs to fucking stop

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 March 2017 13:52 (seven years ago) link

-14 on Rasmussen now (his lowest approval there yet)

the interesting bit there is that strongly approve is actually up from where it was early in the week but strongly disapprove jumped 3 points to 47%

Neanderthal, Friday, 31 March 2017 14:13 (seven years ago) link

Trump won't fall below 70% with Republicans unless he fails to pass any key Republican hot button reforms, and even then will get a pass from his base who will blame Congress.

but by then he'll be in single digits with independents and Democrats.

Neanderthal, Friday, 31 March 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link

Trump won't fall below 70% with Republicans unless he fails to pass any key Republican hot button reforms

this literally just happened

jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 31 March 2017 14:21 (seven years ago) link

that was just one!

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 March 2017 14:25 (seven years ago) link

Who?
Michael Ellis.
I see.
Do you know him, sir?
Er ... Michael Ellis. Michael Ellis...
You don't.
Well, I don't remember the name.
I think you would remember him, sir.
Why do you say that?
Well, would you remember a man six foot nine inches high, fortyish, and he's got a long scar from here to here and absolutely no nose?
... oh, I think I do remember somebody like that...
Well, that's not Michael Ellis.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 March 2017 14:28 (seven years ago) link

See, I'm glad someone went there. (I was biting down hard not to link a YT clip of that yesterday.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 14:29 (seven years ago) link

Trump won't fall below 70% with Republicans unless he fails to pass any key Republican hot button reforms

this literally just happened

― jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, March 31, 2017 10:21 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that was just one!

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, March 31, 2017 10:25 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, he would have to fail to pass the tax reform and a whole slew of other promises too.

his ratings took a hit because of ACA try #1, a few more failures and he might actually go below 70

Neanderthal, Friday, 31 March 2017 14:34 (seven years ago) link

The right way to think about this is, how bad do the Yankees have to be before their fans start siding with the Red Sox.

(I live in a very red state, and so much of the affiliation is strictly tribal. They may or may not "approve" of the president, but if somebody asks them, a lot of them are going to understand it as a loyalty test and default to "yes.")

yeah, to some of them the answer is "well he's better than Hillary would have been so..."

Neanderthal, Friday, 31 March 2017 14:45 (seven years ago) link

Turns out Michael Ellis won on Jeopardy! once:

http://www.thisweeknews.com/article/20130508/news/305089583

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 14:52 (seven years ago) link

Anyway, word spreading that another WH deputy chief of staff, Rick Dearborn, has been fired/pushed out/etc

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 14:53 (seven years ago) link

Haberman on Dearborn:

Dearborn being blamed by Priebus allies over AHCA...Dearborn link to Sessions, for whom he worked but who dimmed in Trump's eyes over Russia probe recusal, has not helped him.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 14:55 (seven years ago) link

Also, here's a roffle:

https://secure.politico.com/story/2017/03/politico-playbook-donald-trump-freedom-caucus-236740

People are buzzing about whether PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP and/or VP MIKE PENCE will escalate the war with the conservative House Freedom Caucus by stumping in their districts, according to people familiar with the developing plans.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 14:58 (seven years ago) link

tipsy mothra exactly otm

been there, not done that (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 31 March 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link

From Ned's link:

"We rode something until it didn't work any more," the official said.

it's also what yer mom said btw

been there, not done that (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 31 March 2017 15:34 (seven years ago) link

reliable spreader

example (crüt), Friday, 31 March 2017 16:03 (seven years ago) link

Yr mom, etc.

Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 March 2017 16:04 (seven years ago) link

who was asking about this upthread?

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/russians-used-bernie-bros-as-unwitting-agents-in-disinformation-campaign-senate-intel-witness/

― Οὖτις, 31. marts 2017 17:36 (forty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This was clear all along. And it should probably also be clear who the 'overeager journalists' are.

Frederik B, Friday, 31 March 2017 16:29 (seven years ago) link

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

"Mike Flynn should ask for immunity in that this is a witch hunt (excuse for big election loss), by media & Dems, of historic proportion!"


Is Trump going to start taking credit for starting the HUGEST witch hunt?

scott seward, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:38 (seven years ago) link

I vaguely checked Twitter and right, left, doesn't matter, I'm seeing absolute incredulity and mockery of Spicer across the board for today. My favorite comment I stumbled across was from John Podhoretz of all people -- 'like watching a bad magician.'

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 19:22 (seven years ago) link

is there a good spicer clip to watch. or do i have to watch the whole thing?

scott seward, Friday, 31 March 2017 20:01 (seven years ago) link

you can watch any press briefing he's done really they are all bad

marcos, Friday, 31 March 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link

press getting a little less patient this week though

marcos, Friday, 31 March 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link

just watch a few minutes from today's for example

marcos, Friday, 31 March 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link

i've watched them before i just didn't know if there was some head-shaking moment like the other day.

scott seward, Friday, 31 March 2017 20:06 (seven years ago) link

Spicer is like the personification of the weakness and fear inside of Trump.

scott seward, Friday, 31 March 2017 20:08 (seven years ago) link

they are funny, the press are fairly generous in their questions, earnestly trying to spin out something cohesive from trump's random bullshit claims, but spicer acts all incredulous and annoyed that they don't think trump's claims are self-explanatory

marcos, Friday, 31 March 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link

that stop shaking your head moment from the other day, and the russian salad dressing remark, were peak-level bad even for Spicer

Dan S, Friday, 31 March 2017 20:52 (seven years ago) link

McCaskill a "no" on Gorsuch: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/claire-mccaskill-neil-gorsuch-filibuster-236763

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 March 2017 21:05 (seven years ago) link

This crew of clods:

https://mobile.twitter.com/justinsink/status/847899898724986880

after @MajorCBS asks about Flynn, Trump leaves signing ceremony without signing executive orders. Pence went and picked it up from desk

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 21:07 (seven years ago) link

I vaguely checked Twitter and right, left, doesn't matter, I'm seeing absolute incredulity and mockery of Spicer across the board for today. My favorite comment I stumbled across was from John Podhoretz of all people -- 'like watching a bad magician.'

from an anonymous soul on another forum, I'm choosing "the guy in the zombie movie trying to hide that he was bitten an hour ago"

though that JPod line made me think of Patton Oswalt's "angry magician" bit and I'm seeing a commonality there too. "Okay? OKAY?! Okay."

Devilock, Friday, 31 March 2017 21:16 (seven years ago) link

McCaskill a "no" on Gorsuch: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/claire-mccaskill-neil-gorsuch-filibuster-236763

― Οὖτις, Friday, March 31, 2017 5:05 PM (

they smell blood; they may even think, "Shit, at this rate Trump may not even be around to nominate another justice."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 March 2017 21:18 (seven years ago) link

can't believe Feinstein is still mum about her vote wtf more angry phone calls from me comin her way I guess

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 March 2017 21:19 (seven years ago) link

I heard ~one minute today of Rush Limbaugh wheezing about "leftist hacks at the FBI."

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 March 2017 21:19 (seven years ago) link

like, leftists are hacking the FBI, or the FBI is filled with leftists?

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 March 2017 21:20 (seven years ago) link


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