Slowdive - s/t (2017): let's rejoice, shall we?

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Live gig streaming now on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Slowdive/videos/vb.27491437753/10155203295007754/?type=3&theater

daavid, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:18 (seven years ago) link

i mean i love that ulrich schnauss version for sure but it's almost literally just reverb added to the original

just another (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:23 (seven years ago) link

new stuff sounding good on this stream

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link

yeah new stuff fitting seamlessly with the classics

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:43 (seven years ago) link

they gave that new single a little more muscle than the recording kinda

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:53 (seven years ago) link

I was there. That was very good.

Warren's Treat (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 22:53 (seven years ago) link

And now that some new songs have been heard -- I've heard an advance of the album, it's quite good. It's different from the previous three in a distinct way -- many of the songs are quite fast paced. Not *really* fast, but certainly in comparison to the steady swing and flow of the original albums, it's got a particular focus on pace that I think serves the album very well, and helps make this a distinct effort.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 22:55 (seven years ago) link

I don't think I've ever listened to Pygmalion, to be honest. The last thing by them I can remember getting were the 'In Mind' remixes. Is it worth seeking it out (22 years late)?

Warren's Treat (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 22:58 (seven years ago) link

Very much so. It's quite remarkable.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 22:59 (seven years ago) link

I suspect this doesn't match the quality of the live stream: https://youtu.be/TJopgXE-MKU

Warren's Treat (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 23:05 (seven years ago) link

Is there a thread suggesting key shoegaze albums for late period Boredoms fans to check out

Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 23:06 (seven years ago) link

Not yet at least.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 23:11 (seven years ago) link

maybe this???? https://www.discogs.com/Xinlisupreme-Tomorrow-Never-Comes/master/482671

is there a thread suggesting key sophistopop albums for late period andrew wk fans to check out

a but (brimstead), Thursday, 30 March 2017 00:31 (seven years ago) link

'Sugar for the Pill' sounds great. I'm getting quite excited for this now!

The Roger Waters Experience (Turrican), Thursday, 30 March 2017 01:19 (seven years ago) link

Yeah loving that song already and judging from the new material so far there is indeed is slightly muscular edge to their sound that is quite new. Can't wait

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 30 March 2017 08:17 (seven years ago) link

Excited for this album. These tracks rule.

yesca, Friday, 31 March 2017 05:11 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1mT_zipAHY

van smack, Sunday, 2 April 2017 23:42 (seven years ago) link

wow, they sound fantastic... maybe I need to fly up to Chicago for their show.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 3 April 2017 02:23 (seven years ago) link

yeah, I don't really like Sugar Pill all that much. I kinda agree with Pygmalion comparisons but it's also a lot warmer, even poppier which is not a bad thing in itself but overall it sounds really generic, while Pygmalion had some sort of cold vibe which made it really interesting. I wish them all the best, MBV proved that you can come back really strong as a shoegaze band even though this genre is kind of intrinsically nostalgic, that's all fine if they want to evolve their sound, it's just not that great to me.

piramjida, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 11:05 (seven years ago) link

I don't know if the genre is 'intrinsically nostalgic,' or if it is, you might as well say that about a lot of music in general, whether it's rock or something else. In that there was often a perceived built in sense of retreat/reflection, that's one thing, but when you've got something like three generations of musicians now doing something with the form one way or another, is it nostalgia or extension? (Certainly, as with so much else, a lot of newer stuff simply recreates rather than fuses and inspires in new directions, but again, why hold them to particular account?)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 13:05 (seven years ago) link

I think I'd be down on a band for skewing towards relatively more generic composition but these new songs are hitting me so directly I can't really step back and nitpick.

Evan, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 13:26 (seven years ago) link

I think "Sugar for the Pill" works in spite of its straightforward composition. The chorus has a haunting touch that hooked me on the first listen and keeps me relistening, but

it's practically Coldplay

is otm

Vinnie, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 16:44 (seven years ago) link

that's your fault for listening to Coldplay, isn't it

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 17:14 (seven years ago) link

always with the victim blaming around here

Vinnie, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link

I don't know if the genre is 'intrinsically nostalgic,' or if it is, you might as well say that about a lot of music in general, whether it's rock or something else. In that there was often a perceived built in sense of retreat/reflection, that's one thing, but when you've got something like three generations of musicians now doing something with the form one way or another, is it nostalgia or extension? (Certainly, as with so much else, a lot of newer stuff simply recreates rather than fuses and inspires in new directions, but again, why hold them to particular account?)

Well, obviously you can feel nostalgic about any genre, but when it comes down to shoegaze I feel like some sense of nostalgia, longing, feeling of being young has been present throughout many of those shoegaze classics. I feel like that might be partly why Halstead is so surprised that young people are still listening to Slowdive - it probably felt to him like his music was capturing this youthful, exuberant emotions that by now are long gone, but then he found out that there is a new generation that is able to connect with this feeling. And I mean, yeah, you still have shoegaze bands putting out their music but at least when I think of shoegaze it's mainly those glimpses of great bands like MBV, Ride or Slowdive during early '90s that nobody really came close to ever after.

piramjida, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 17:41 (seven years ago) link

I think the first Mojave 3 album is the best one. Very very gentle and the closing track is very Slowdive.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 10 April 2017 22:20 (seven years ago) link

"Sugar For The Pill" sounds like it could have come from the Black Hearted Brother album, which I really liked

'Out of Tune' by Mojave 3 has ended up being one of my most loved albums. 'Excuses For Travellers' is also very good and the others have their moments.

The early Mojave 3 demos, that made up part of the first album were originally sent out under the Slowdive name. I was surprised to read that the first M3 album was released within 10 months of 'Pygmalion', it came together that quickly.

Would love a new Mojave 3 record one day, however I am looking forward to Slowdive too.

michaellambert, Monday, 10 April 2017 22:26 (seven years ago) link

xp i agree, it has a very different feel from the others. it's like slowcore. very atmospheric, great lead guitar tones

a but (brimstead), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 01:08 (seven years ago) link

The early Mojave 3 demos, that made up part of the first album were originally sent out under the Slowdive name. I was surprised to read that the first M3 album was released within 10 months of 'Pygmalion', it came together that quickly.

wow i didn't know this! will definitely have to dig into to m3

just another (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 02:00 (seven years ago) link

Sugar is something very special
And fuck the Coldplay comment because SD are 20 years older than them and experience counts for something

calstars, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 02:52 (seven years ago) link

the first four mojave 3 albums are all great, I didn't care for the last one

akm, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 03:31 (seven years ago) link

Out of Tune was the first one I bought. Still listen to it the most though Ask Me Tomorrow is close behind.

that's not my post, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 05:10 (seven years ago) link

These new songs are great.

Sam Weller, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 10:41 (seven years ago) link

I wasn't really sold on the singles but this album is great, it's a nice midpoint between Souvlaki and Pygmalion. highlights are probably "Go Get It" and "Don't Know Why"

ufo, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 09:31 (six years ago) link

Jealous of you guys hearing the album already! I can't wait

calstars, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 11:56 (six years ago) link

It's out there.. leaked super early

octobeard, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link

Rachel is going to be on KEXP tomorrow morning (John in the Morning show is doing an all shoegaze program 6-10 Pacific) if anyone has any interest.

van smack, Thursday, 20 April 2017 01:21 (six years ago) link

So far, spectacular. No new ground broken here but as shoegaze records go by reformed bands go, it'll probably beat your expectations.

yesca, Thursday, 20 April 2017 02:46 (six years ago) link

"Sugar For The Pill" is a gorgeous track

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Friday, 21 April 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link

seeing them tomorrow! at a gorgeous newly renovated old 1920s theater with what's supposed to be an amazing sound system. saw them last time at the worst venue in mpls so i'm pretty stoked

global tetrahedron, Monday, 1 May 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link

Remix of "Sugar For the Pill" by Avalon Emerson -- not bad

https://soundcloud.com/deadoceans/slowdive-sugar-for-the-pill-avalon-emersons-gilded-escalation/s-5gxmk

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link

Went to the show last night, no better or worse than the one I saw in 2014 (at the "worst venue in mpls"). Old hollowed out theater made for cool atmosphere, the sound was fine, and yet... my favorite of the reunited shoegaze bands I've seen is the one I've had the most trouble connecting with live. Just me?

geoffreyess, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link

cmon the fine line is pretty bad you have to admit

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link

The quotes weren't meant to suggest I was questioning your judgment. I used to hate that place (for blasting Muse right before a Deerhunter set, and other crimes) but I've been to a lot of great shows there in the past few years.

geoffreyess, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link

'don't know why' is killing me

del esdichado (NickB), Friday, 5 May 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link

this is a damn good album. there's nothing as good as Alison, but as a whole it seems to be as good as any of their other albums.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 5 May 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

not even close imo

imago, Friday, 5 May 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link

i don't know how many times i've listened to 'don't know why' today, but it is a lot of fucking times, that is for sure

del esdichado (NickB), Saturday, 6 May 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link

i had a very stupid and somewhat embarrasing thought about its structure - it's sort of like the lifecycle of a snowflake:
crystals forming on floating dust particles -> sudden blooming as flakes cohere -> the gradual surrender of melting -> final state of liquid non-being

del esdichado (NickB), Saturday, 6 May 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link

one of their highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXD6tMrlXq8

Bee OK, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 00:21 (six years ago) link

posted the Bay Area one by mistake but you get it.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 00:25 (six years ago) link

Thanks for posting that clip from the Oakland show. Golden Hair was so intense and magical.

that's not my post, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 00:36 (six years ago) link

Yup, quite striking. And looks like they have a standard set list but it's a good one, though with a little variety ("Catch the Breeze" was fourth up here).

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 01:01 (six years ago) link

It's a shame they don't play Morningrise.

mothfrogs and homicidal smoking haikuists (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 07:18 (six years ago) link

only song I wanted to hear that was missing was machine gun. oh well can't have everything.

akm, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 13:40 (six years ago) link

i really like this album a lot :)

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link

man that's a great setlist, i would've cried at that show

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link

ok im sold. got tickets for the 12th

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 2 November 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link

have a great time.

Bee OK, Friday, 3 November 2017 00:19 (six years ago) link

Just to continue the theme, they were amazing in Denver on the 1st. I think the crowd trended older here, hard to say, underage balcony was not overflowing. same songs as for everyone else. I'd agree that Golden Hair is a particular highlight, but the new rockin' verson of 'crazy for you' is also pretty exciting maybe it was just the bang surprise that got me. simon scott is amazing and rachel seems a much better singer these days, is it her time in that dreadful rock band of hers that had made the improvement notable?

Keythkeythkeyth, Friday, 3 November 2017 03:56 (six years ago) link

Her solo stuff?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 3 November 2017 13:39 (six years ago) link

She sings for a band called minor victories which as a band isn’t really all that interesting to me but she sings well.

Keythkeythkeyth, Friday, 3 November 2017 14:39 (six years ago) link

Disagree. The Minor Victories album is really great and worth checking out.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link

I am a big fan of both Twilight Sad and new Slowdive and I thought that Minor Victories album was very predictable and boring

boxedjoy, Friday, 3 November 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

Back on tour in the US in a couple of months and playing SF in late May at the Fillmore. That'll be a great show for sure.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link

i know, crazy. they're spoiling us!

akm, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link

Quite surprised I couldn't get into this album. I was totally enthralled by "Don't Know Why" but despite enjoying things about them (although I did find some of the riffs a bit plain) the rest of the album just never clicked.

Not getting into the new Slowdive album sounds like a nightmare scenario but I'm dealing with it calmly. I'll give it more spins in a year.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 16 March 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link

Totally with you on "Don't Know Why" being the obvious standout.

J. Sam, Friday, 16 March 2018 23:11 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

god this album is so good

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Sunday, 17 June 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link

Not seeing this band when they played the Newport Music Hall in Columbus last year just because it was standing room only was a HUGE mistake.

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 17 June 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link

saw them last month and it was pretty damn good... but word is they'll be doing lots more touring in the near future.

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Sunday, 17 June 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link

I also saw them last month, and they had lost their guitar pedals in the airport, lol. Slowdive with borrowed guitar pedals they aren't really sure how to use is an intense experience.

Frederik B, Sunday, 17 June 2018 21:14 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Listening to this wonderful album today, wondering if there'll be a follow-up. What've the various members been up to the last couple of years?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 1 August 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link

Rachel's had a side project release with her partner this year.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 August 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

...which has never been named on ILM: The Soft Cavalry (Rachel and her husband Steve Clarke) is solid but leaves me wanting more of Rachel's voice.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 13 March 2021 04:51 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

they've confirmed they're playing new material live this year, hopefully that means we'll start hearing about the new album very soon too.

i've got a ticket to see them with modest mouse & tfs in april, very much looking forward to that

ufo, Saturday, 4 February 2023 00:16 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

confirmed on instagram that the new album is complete

ufo, Thursday, 13 April 2023 23:47 (one year ago) link

Awesome. Absolutely loved the 2017 album, so I’m pumped for this.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 14 April 2023 01:55 (one year ago) link

Fantastic. Hope they will tour as well. The show supporting the 2017 album was brilliant.

that's not my post, Friday, 14 April 2023 03:01 (one year ago) link

For sure. Low opened up here, love an awesome double bill.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 April 2023 03:03 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

listings were accidentally put up early for the new album everything is alive out september 1. eight tracks including "shanty", "prayer remembered", "alife", "andalucia plays" and "kisses". according to the press release they've incorporated more electronics into their sound and john cale is cited as an influence

looking forward to seeing them next month after they cancelled the tour last minute in april

ufo, Thursday, 15 June 2023 07:19 (ten months ago) link


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