Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

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increasing big business resistance (led by Exxon, of all entities) to the administration's desire to hasten the destruction of the ecosystem

market forces have long been moving in this direction (as a result of both gov't policies/incentives and a general acceptance of the science), corporations that care about their profit margins make moves accordingly

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:34 (seven years ago) link

Charlie Dent just said the Senate should handle the Russia probe

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:37 (seven years ago) link

Trump will be like "WEAK GUY THAT VOTED AGAINST HEALTH CARE WANTS TO INVESTIGATE MOI?"

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:39 (seven years ago) link

Timing!

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/847083958659661824

Roger Stone documentary to premiere in May on Netflix

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8FyXoTXQAMRsYI.jpg

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:46 (seven years ago) link

nice martini, I must say

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 16:01 (seven years ago) link

i hope it's 90 minutes of him flexing his back muscles to make his nixon tattoo talk

tony orlandoni, cheese engineer (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 16:04 (seven years ago) link

xp it's just water with olives in it

Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 16:07 (seven years ago) link

lol

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 16:07 (seven years ago) link

i'm glad you didn't say "good hair"

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 16:18 (seven years ago) link

Roger w the good hair

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 16:19 (seven years ago) link

i heard Stone interviewed on The Takeaway (NPR) yesterday and he basically strikes me as the same kind of 'performance artist' Ann Coulter is.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 16:20 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, the whole 'sartorial splendor of Roger Stone' is performance art, when you consider he really looks like Zippy The Pinhead.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6pxIppWoAABNi9.jpg

You're going to see a lot of love. Okay? Thank you. (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 16:26 (seven years ago) link

Because you posted that, that means I'm not a bad person for having already thought that

hot bech babes lick the feemer and get the skeletor fever. (stevie), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 16:29 (seven years ago) link

Is he wearing a bathrobe? It kind of looks like a suit kimono.

neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 16:36 (seven years ago) link

kimono, tomato. last pres was an empty chair; current one's campaign was managed by a russian fence. let's call the whole estate tax off : )

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 16:41 (seven years ago) link

ugh hes the kind of east coast douchebag Im glad I never have to encounter here in LA

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 16:42 (seven years ago) link

idk i always though Rog looked a bit like Melissa Etheridge.

nomar, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 16:44 (seven years ago) link

give me a roger stone over a mike pence any day tbh

marcos, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 16:58 (seven years ago) link

Granted nothing more than a random voice right now but:

https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/847131758445416449

Carly Fiorina: 'Special prosecutor or an independent commission' needed for Russia investigation

The Dent statement noted above has more relative weight, but given Fiorina seemed to be nothing but a generic Trumpbot in recent times, it's something.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:20 (seven years ago) link

carly trying to rebrand herself for her next losing election campaign in some random state she doesnt live in

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link

Right on track!

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/847131904994398209

Trump down to 35-59, per Gallup.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

It actually seems possible that his approval rating could dip into the 20s. Wow.

Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:33 (seven years ago) link

Happened to W IIRC, but that was after, you know....years. Not WEEKS.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:34 (seven years ago) link

It's going to take some strong medicine to drive him below 35% approval, but I am sure he'll find a way. I must say he's thrown an interesting light on the concept of "winning so much you'll get tired of winning."

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:35 (seven years ago) link

Can't we whip up a law that when no more than 1/3 of the populace approves of an elected official we officially, I dunno, throw them under a riding mower or something?

Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:35 (seven years ago) link

W's low point was 25%, just prior to leaving office

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:41 (seven years ago) link

the Trump team appears to have zero awareness of how to even start turning this around

Moodles, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:43 (seven years ago) link

Is there a critical mass of losers he's run over that will finally chain react into "lock him up" generally?

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:47 (seven years ago) link

The Trump team has zero awareness of how to turn this around because all of them consider themselves to be brilliant political experts, but none of them have any practical political experience and they disdain anyone who does have such experience on the grounds that, in their expert view, real politicians always do everything exactly wrong.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:52 (seven years ago) link

yah the fact that everything is fucked up and not working is evidence of their MASSIVE success! you fuckin dummies!!!

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:55 (seven years ago) link

pretty sure the last 3 years of his Presidency will just be selling White House stuff on ebay

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:56 (seven years ago) link

How many of that 65% are not even citizens? Probably at least 120% of them.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:58 (seven years ago) link

you guys this is just a head fake

marcos, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:58 (seven years ago) link

a trial balloon to see how they can weather bad approval ratings before the real shit starts going down

marcos, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:58 (seven years ago) link

i've observed this tactic used in numerous authoritarian regimes

marcos, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:59 (seven years ago) link

whats sorta confusing to me, and maybe its explained by spin, but when trump was a candidate his businesses were hurting, except now as president it seems like all the reports are that business is booming.. people love a winner a guess? the grift is real?

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:59 (seven years ago) link

the Trump team appears to have zero awareness of how to even start turning this around

Is there any reason to think they care?

The Baby-in-Chief doesn't; he professes to not believe in the polls. (And with good reason! Every poll said he'd never get this far.) For him, the only poll he needs is the front six rows of one of his rallies. Since he can always have a rally (and a bunch of red-hat yahoos will always go), he can continue to ensconce himself in a bubble of approbation.

The powers-behind-the-throne - e.g. Bannon - have ideological goals to pursue that don't require high job approval. Indeed, for culture warriors, being embattled on all sides feels right. They know it will feed the base's sense of grievance, which is the fuel that keeps their engine turning.

The court servants - Conway, Spicer - will just keep heading out to do their assigned spinning no matter what. And the more negative the reception they get, the better. The more media hostility the better, obv. Because, see above.

As long as the red hatters view their cause as an embattled and storm-tossed ship, with enemies all around, they will cling to the rigging with ever more tenacity. To do otherwise would require admitting they've been conned.

been there, not done that (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:59 (seven years ago) link

lol marcos

sleeve, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:02 (seven years ago) link

I think Trump would absolutely love to have high approval ratings and be universally loved and praised and seen as a big success. He seems to think the way to get there is by whining, complaining, and shifting blame for everything.

xp

Moodles, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:03 (seven years ago) link

As long as the red hatters view their cause as an embattled and storm-tossed ship, with enemies all around, they will cling to the rigging with ever more tenacity. To do otherwise would require admitting they've been conned.

― been there, not done that (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, March 29, 2017 5:59 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and it seems that all trump needs to do is 'do what he promised' on the campaign to make these idiots happy.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:04 (seven years ago) link

so far he hasn't delivered on a goddamn thing

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:05 (seven years ago) link

There seem to have been a measurable number of trump voters who viewed him as a high-risk candidate but found the risk acceptable. I recall one news story just before the election where a trump voter said trump would either be one of the best presidents ever or one of the worst, but he (of course it was a man) was voting for him anyway. I presume that voters like that guy are starting to swing toward the realization he's one of the worst.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link

all is forgiven b/c Gorsuch

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link

nice

softie (silby), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:30 (seven years ago) link

Eduardo Porter in the NYT biz section today starts off w/ calling Yam's campaign 'economic populism'... "brilliant." (As a means to an end, I suppose.) Then he comes around to "Could it have all been a CON?"

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link

gee how will we ever know

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:34 (seven years ago) link

he's learned so much

Four days after blaming Democrats for the failure of the Republican plan to repeal and replace Obamacare — and vowing to let his predecessor’s signature health care law “explode” — President Trump told a roomful of senators that he expects lawmakers will easily be able to reach a deal on health care.

“I have no doubt that that’s going to happen very quickly,” Trump said at a bipartisan reception for senators and their spouses at the White House Tuesday night. “That’s such an easy one.”

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:35 (seven years ago) link

where's the tax returns?

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:39 (seven years ago) link

xp I saw that "such and easy one" clip on the news this morning and my eyes still hurt from all the eyerolling.

You're going to see a lot of love. Okay? Thank you. (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:41 (seven years ago) link


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