Magic: The Gathering C/D

art is astounding on some of these cards but i literally can't believe anyone signed off on these title/type lines. maybe on paper they will be more legible.

the wrath of god looks real good since the art palette matches the frame well and the rules text is short enough to look good centered, most of the rest im not fond of

took me about a minute to determine if there were any actual letters on the Daze one

somebody needs to be fired

nah, like upside down, then you rotate it 90 degrees during your untap step. that's how we'd probably do it.

Ah, I gotcha. Like detain, but in two steps. Think it's still more clear to use the token, if it's available

Man they had such a great opportunity with these card frames but the execution is so bad. too many different elements and fonts. it's like a 90's rap album cover

I actually dig the new frame a lot. I mean it's definitely ugly and aesthetically questionable, but I like that they made something that looks so unlike a Magic card.

I'm fine with them outside of the unreadable lettering, some of the art is pretty cool, but these are such a huge step down from the inventions.

Oh yeah, I like how far out these are, but you can keep that and make these look much better. For example, the color bars on the sides are unnecessary for cards that are already so hard to parse. Just go all the way and ditch them to get the complete stone look, I say

The art on most of these is excellent too. really dig the simplicity

aven mindcensor is in the actual set as well as the masterpiece version, nice. been a while since the last time they hit a futureshifted card

Definitely an exciting inclusion!

the color bars look like stone pillars to me. I like 'em

mindcensor is a really nicely designed card. not sure about the bump to rare tho.

if it was a new card i don't think anyone would blink at it being rare - "hatebears" almost always are

my god, I had no idea these went up to $10 a year ago. I have like 25 of them. Whoops

cycling duals very pushed

these look nice, coming into play tapped keeps them from being unreasonable

holy shit

these seem better than the theros temples which were Very good in standard

scry lands were probably better for early game and these are probably better in the late game

scry lands were good late game compared to pretty much every land except these

wonder why they gave 'em the basic types

are there any standard-legal cards that would make these good search targets? can't imagine wanting to fetch these over other fetchable lands in other formats.

no but I'm guessing there will be. I don't think they just do that randomly.

basic land types make them play well with the SOI duals and i'm sure they'll be relevant with some future thing too

man this is the best i've done in a draft format since the last modern masters. i wonder if there is a reason or if it's just coincidence. anyway, i now have 8 trophies from 18 drafts, which is the amount i got in 3xKLD - i think my worst format to date - over ~60 drafts.

roberto, are you still playing 100% online? I feel like you are probably good enough at this point that you could prob crush at some irl competitive limited events

I always liked the tension with the previous cycling lands - play them early so that the tappedness isn't a problem, or hold them to get value later. This seems like it will be a very widely played cycle

xp my results are pretty variable overall but i do have streaks. the sum total of my paper experience is playing occasionally with gentleman of this parish call all destroyer.

boston kinda sucks for events bigger than FNM, everything is really far out in the suburbs

there's a scg event in worcester next weekend actually. cider, any chance you're going? (I am.)

not sure yet. not up to speed on legacy these days but might play the modern event on saturday

I might play that if I flame out in legacy d1. I kinda want to build grixis shadow, looks fun, might want to play that in vegas.

anyway if you're around you should hit me up

http://media.wizards.com/2017/dw466ytu5_akh/en_3zm4wIPG70.png

i like how much cleaner this is than the theros gods while still being a similar mechanic

I liked Devotion, but yeah this is pretty cool

I agree w/ everything in this article:

https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/modern-masters-2017-draft-guide/

I have gone into every draft thinking 'force dimir'. I remembered liking the last mm a little better, though I barely remember what was even in the set at this point.

yeah i quit mm3 after 8 drafts because it was clear that there were only 3 decks (+ a potential 4th in GW that requires a very high power level to compete since it's too disadvantaged vs the blue cards)

shifting dinrova horror down to common was a pretty big mistake i think. falkenrath noble and mist raven should also probably not be common

I have done somewhere from 15-20 drafts and have yet to see a real gw populate deck. I've seen a few okay RG and RW aggro decks. aggro is in a weird place - those 4c control decks are actually soft to it in theory, but I think it's hard to build a deck that reliably curves out w/ good cards to punish them. usually you just don't get punished for durdling for 4 turns and can just jund out the other guy.

and yeah, dinrova horror is rare-level powerful, especially in a set filled w/ tokens and flicker effects. I'm okay w/ the noble at common because it's so core to the br sac deck actually working, and that deck isn't overpowered.

this is the only good green deck i managed to draft, needing green rares in order to have a high enough power level to beat blue commons is not a good place to be
http://imgur.com/a/ze7eA

my sole 3-0 BR deck had 0 nobles -_-

there are several different decks under the esper umbrella and several under jund but within each they are close enough to be functionally the same, although for the former there is a much faster WU deck. i haven't had GW really come together since my first online draft except the time i opened craterhoof. i have been beaten a couple times now by GW soul warden / the fog populate / the indestructible populate decks which count among my most miserable magic experiences. in terms of off the wall decks, i lost handily with a strong jund deck to the ol' UG explore/mist raven/flicker/genesis deck. i literally only saw those cards, and in multiplies. i think overall the payoffs for bant aren't there, RW and naya are very bad, and a UR/grixis core while intriguing seems hard to pull off.

but yeah, i did a couple more drafts over the weekend and realized i was just choosing between esper or jund.

looking at the deck cider posted there, lingering souls plus a couple anthems really is how you are trying to win with GW

lingering souls is just an absurd card in limited regardless of the format

i think it was probably the 2nd best card in DKA, after huntmaster and ahead of sorin. a true mythic uncommon

i recently took souls p1p1 over voice of resurgence. i wasn't 100% sure that i was right but i slammed it all the same.

phantom, obv

it's def better than voice

yeah lingering souls always seems like the easiest first pick in the format. not only is it always strong in limited, but this particular grind-y format is the perfect place for it. also lots of the rares aren't even that strong in limited. the rares I'm looking out for are niv mizzet, deadeye navigator, cruel ult, olivia, thragtusk. I think souls is better than any other non-mythic rare.