What's the deal with 60's jazz liner notes?

earlier than 1953 and you might just get a catalog on the back of a ten-inch.

before the 50's you had to read down beat and metronome to get the scoop.

1951:

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and then there was Folkways. with their handy comprehensive inserts that could be long indeed.

so the question is, did any jazz get liner notes that wasn't linked to directly john lewis and/or MJQ?

(i think my 10" of birth of the cool does: that was recorded in 1949, with lewis on-board, but not issued in 10" form until 1954: anyway i can't find it to check)

and come to think of asch recordings predates folkways for jazz liners. from the 40's:

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so, anyway, jazz liners get going in the 40s and really get going by the mid-50's.

oh asch! good call -- never owned any

how do we feel about Leonard Feather? unrelated aside: I just flipped thru some jazz LPs looking for liner notes and noticed that Eddie Harris' I Need Some Money was produced by Geoffrey Haslam, same guy who produced MC5's High Time. Small world.

milt gabler was a big history buff and commodore releases could be pretty comprehensive. from 1949:

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"how do we feel about Leonard Feather?"

he was an invaluable resource who hated lots of great stuff. but if you wanted to connect dots in the 50's he was your guy.

how do we feel about Leonard Feather? unrelated aside: I just flipped thru some jazz LPs looking for liner notes and noticed that Eddie Harris' I Need Some Money was produced by Geoffrey Haslam, same guy who produced MC5's High Time

... and VU's Loaded.

I keep meaning to start a poll between Loaded and High Time: same producer, same label, same year (just about), both swan songs.

great comparison, both are also refinement/reduction of earlier, raunchier more out-there work

not reduction in a dumb way, more like boiling down to its essence

loaded wins because i always forget to play high time and i don't even know if i still have a copy.

this has all led me to want to buy this on ebay because i can't find the stockhausen thing online...

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jazz-Pop-Magazine-Dec-1969-Steppenwolf-Electronic-Music-Best-of-A-Cappella-/361556005154?hash=item542e6ad122:g:5EMAAOSwHJhXM9mT

that's where threads about 60's jazz liner notes lead me. buying magazines on ebay. the internet wins again!

agree about Loaded. couple real clinkers on High Time along with some classics. Fred Sonic taking the wheel...back to jazz notes

"Like A Rolling Stone by Ralph J Gleason"

wonder if this was about the magazine? RJG was mentor to J Wenner back in the day

it was probably about dylan.

it's actually a manifesto:

http://www.jannswenner.com/press/like_a_rolling_stone.aspx

stockhausen's open letter just says "cosine this^^^"

so, anyway, jazz liners get going in the 40s and really get going by the mid-50's.

The first 33 1/3 LPs were released in 1948, and stereo LPs took off in 1958. During those years, hi-fi equipment and LPs were fairly expensive compared to other music listening options, so prestige and cultural appeal were important aspects of their marketing. Liner notes like these let the buyer know he was not getting just any old jazz record but some seriously high-brow product, flattering his taste and helping him rationalize his investment in gear.

not all jazz liner notes etc

Brad C's argument is why I went hunting for john lewis in the first place: suddenly from the late 40s there's this layer of music consciously pushing across into classical terrain -- kenton and progressive jazz, birth of the cool, MJQ, schuller's third stream, brubeck -- so i was pleased to get that so tidily confirmed, that the musicians' aspirations as composers and performers jigsawed so effectively into the marketing demands of a new (and somewhat pricey) format

the moe asch dimension is a bit different though -- i guess i've always thought of his roster more as a crankish hyper-documentary approach (at least after it became folkways, maybe less so when it was still on 78):

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ellington also begins composing long-form works in the early 50s that wouldn't be broken up on 33 the way they would have been on 78

(obviously his artistic aspirations predated this: black brown and beige was 1943, i think, but after its initial performance he only played it piecemeal for a long time, and didn't record it in full until 1958)

The liner notes for In A Silent Way are . . . deeply odd, as if the guy was whacked off his head on weed while writing them, which of course he probably was. I'll try and transcribe a little bit of it when I get home from work later.

Actually, here they are. In all honesty, not as weird as I remembered. But there's still something a bit strange about them which I can't quite put my finger on. It's like a mix of over-literal self-indulgence and stating the obvious.

"Miles the dresser, Miles the boxer, Miles the bon vivant, Miles the pioneer. I use the word "pioneer" because Miles has been ever searching for new sonorities, new ways of performing his music. In essence, new directions. I would chance to say that Miles is the most written about artist in the field of jazz, and I hate the word "jazz." I prefer using the phrase "field of music." Attendance in clubs has always been overwhelming. People come from all over to hear the one and only Miles Davis. A creative force is always at work within him. His albums are pointed to new directions for all who are interested in music. His has incorporated the best of jazz, so-called contemporary rock sounds and rhythms, a flair for the long thematic line reminiscent of the 16th-century composer, and the technique of the 20th century composer using polyrhythms (many rhythms at once) and polytonalities (different chords played together). He has come up with something new in music. The form is free, and from this freedom a masterful outgrowth of composition has emerged. People will follow him ten years hence.

"In my opinion, the rock groups are picking up on the early Miles Davis, trying to imitate but never quite making it. The rock groups, I am sure, dig Miles, but, here again, it will probably be years before they really understand his creativity, his compositions, his mastery of musicianship. He has inspired countless musicians to create, to be creative and to rise from obscurity to take a place in the musical foreground. "That's right," says Miles Davis. "

People will follow him ten years hence

there's some fawning hyperbole there, but mostly accurate imo

These sentences really capture the filler quality of 60's liner notes though - they could be on the back of an Al Hirt album sold at the A&P as easily as In A Silent Way.

"People come from all over to hear the one and only ____. A creative force is always at work within him. His albums are pointed to new directions for all who are interested in music."

Speaks to the taste-flattering and gear investment rationalization that Brad C mentions upthread.

aside from style, sample upthread reminds me of 60s/70s rock reviews i've read recently, where what stuck out was the self-conscious connoisseur orientation. that tends to bring a lot of particular jargon, habitual terms of judgment, etc. with it, which might have an outsized influence on how liner note writing 'seems'. not just taste flattering, but trying to model a certain kind of rationality re taste, its expertise about a body of music and records, etc.

so he says he hates the word jazz -- when did miles start saying this publicly? (i shd know this but i don't)

(if he'd been saying it for a while it's not that interesting, of course)

wait who hates the word "jazz"? I tht that was the writer

the writer says he does here -- miles said he did elsewhere (but i can't recall when or where he began saying so) (it might have been years before, tho round about "in a silent way" would make sense, when he started feeling hemmed in the assumptions of critics and fans and record company and etc)

if it was already public knowledge that miles hated the word, then this isn't an especially interesting element in the liner notes, but if it *wasn't* already widely known then the writer was either channeling miles (presumably after talking to him) or taking a (fairly surprising) flyer all on his own

1982 (altho I doubt this is the first instance of this): https://youtu.be/IHeYG9SNaS0?t=112

it's only mildly interesting but i wondered if this was a way-station between miles having stuff written about him he didn't like (or have control over) and getting columbia to stop wth it altogether -- a way-station where the liner notes were semi-based round an actual (unacknowledged) interview with him

Haha, was about to google "miles the bon vivant" but it's already here.

Miles the dresser, Miles the boxer, Miles the bon vivant, Miles the pioneer. I use the word "pioneer" because Miles has been ever searching for new sonorities, new ways of performing his music.

Here's a question, though: were jazz DJs talking this way during this same time? I grew up in Minneapolis with Leigh Kamman's "The Jazz Image" and he was definitely a "Miles the boxer, Miles the bon vivant" jazz DJ.

kamman is an interesting figure -- similar to leonard feather, from what i understand, in his distaste for "the new thing" or avant-whatever.

his ex-stepson (i think?) helps run a legacy project here in the cities that is digitizing all of kamman's taped radio interviews and uploading them to youtube. i went digging around on that channel, hoping to find a "miles the bon vivant"-style formulation, but ended up listening to max roach tell a story about the "concrete jungle" sessions, during which duke ellington was constantly speaking about himself in a self-deprecating manner (in roach's view, to ease the anxiety of him and mingus, since they were obviously huge admirers), and at one point described himself as "the poor man's bud powell."

also, kamman wrote liner notes. from '56:
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lol did people really call Stan Getz "THE SOUND"

yeah, "because of a certain intangible tone he produces" -- didn't you read the liner notes?

If you didn't live in a major market or know trustworthy hipsters, figuring out which LPs to buy would have been tough. No Internet, few jazz record reviews in mainstream media, little or no LP-oriented radio programming, Down Beat not the easiest magazine to find ... I imagine much of the audience for 50s-60s jazz LPs did most of their research by reading a lot of liner notes while shopping.

jazz fans kinda like sports fans. in good and bad ways.

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What the

I got to figure for some mainstream listeners, Playboy was actually a way to find out about records and musicians as they did the yearly "all star team" and quite a few reviews and articles about jazz musicians.

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Holy shit xxp

I thought the term Directions In Music came from Miles dislike of the term Jazz. & that's late 60s/early 70s.
I thought it stemmed from the word Jazz being devalued from an early point like the 'King of Jazz' being a white popularising copy of something more original. Think that term dated back to the 20s or 30s, so wonder if Miles was ever happy calling the music Jazz.
I would think he must talk about it in the Autobiography but I haven't read that in years.

It's really bad writing, at least by the standards of "On Writing Well" or (name your favorite style guide). High-school students write that way, before they've learned how to communicate more clearly and effectively.

I mean, my god -- that final sentence is like an endless string of prepositional phrases.

There's a jazz critic I've known for many years who writes exactly like that, and as a bonus, whenever he's got the choice between two adjectives, he'll opt for the more obscure, Cormac McCarthy-esque of the two. It's really, really fucking annoying - he might be the single most affected prose stylist I've ever come across, and it's not like chopping your way through his sentences will ultimately yield some great insight into the music.

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Haha, just seeing this now.

Did we have a thread for those 1970s copy-heavy music magazine ads where it would start like "Tangerine Dream doesn't want you to get high before listening to their music. The music alone will get you high enough"? I feel like there's some overlap here.

It's really bad writing, at least by the standards of "On Writing Well" or (name your favorite style guide). High-school students write that way, before they've learned how to communicate more clearly and effectively.

― i’m still stanning (morrisp)

sometimes obfuscatory bureaucratese is what's called for

seldom in jazz liner notes, mind

Did we have a thread for those 1970s copy-heavy music magazine ads where it would start like "Tangerine Dream doesn't want you to get high before listening to their music. The music alone will get you high enough"? I feel like there's some overlap here.

Vintage seventies (or sixties and eighties) magazine ads for albums

pulled out “quiet nights” and found this classic opening paragraph to the liner notes:

The nineteenth century French painter Eugène Delacroix once observed: "Talent does whatever it wants to do. . . . Genius does only what it can." So it is with Miles Davis—Miles the man and Miles the dedicated and instinctive musician. An aura of moody mysteriousness has been planted around Miles by writers and critics who desperately try to put the paradoxical pieces into place. But to the fiercest and only critic that matters to him—Miles himself—all is clear: "I am one thing, a musician; I only can do one thing, play my horn."

Yes, good riddance to all that and thank god we are living in the golden age of music criticism in which we are always kept abreast of who threw shade at who on twitter

i wouldn't want to do without 60s jazz liner notes for the typography alone

If someone on Pitchfork could shout out Eugène Delacroix while discussing musician Twitter shade that’d really be the dream, though

geez lighten up, paul

sorry. Over the years I've enjoyed and learned a lot from the kind of music writing being ridiculed in this thread. Sure, there's a lot of purple prose, but there's also genuine passion for the subject(s), good information and deep analysis. 50s / 60s liner notes were definitely instrumental in my learning to love jazz.

totally agree- one thing I have always loved is the feeling of reportage coming from them when you consider how short the turnaround time between recording and release could be

Yes! And those writers were in many cases well acquainted with the artists, many of whom likely approved of those (frequently hagiographic) essays.

I've enjoyed my share of these things. But it's weird saying Miles isn't talented.

the critic paradoxically continues

In this album, as in all his performances, Miles is an artist whose main concern is for the artistic. He has a fine ear, is a musician's musician, and knows what he is doing each minute. And yet, with his high sophistication of style and well-disciplined direction of talent, Miles still speaks with a simplicity to which a child can respond. A nine-year-old girl, after listening to one of his records for a moment, quipped, "That's Miles Davis!" How did she know? "Because it sounds like a little boy who's been locked out and wants to get in."

> the feeling of reportage

were some of these guys actually "reporters" and not "critics" because they sure refer to "critics" as some outside group... in basically every one of these things

I think they just mean other critics

That nine-year old girl was Ken Tynan's daughter, iirc. At least, it was in his profile of Miles that I first read the line.

Unrelated, but this got a laugh out of me yesterday, from an LP by vibraphonist Gary Burton

...a collection of nine of the loveliest tunes ever written as interpreted by one of the foremost singers of our time. Singer? Where's the singer? Listen, he's right there, front and center...

WHAT, you say??

Gary Burton is a singer. It just happens that his voice is the vibraphone

Touché, 60s jazz album liner notes. Touché.