Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

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MODERN history, Tracer. You know, since the Golden Age of Television started.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 25 March 2017 14:22 (seven years ago) link

"We were a 10-year opposition party, where being against things was easy to do," said House Speaker Paul Ryan, faced with the biggest loss of his career. "And now in three months' time we tried to go to a governing party. We will get there, but we weren't there today."

maybe someday you'll get to where you understand that the Social Security benefits which paid for your expensive private college tuition is a good thing, too, congressperson galt

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 25 March 2017 14:24 (seven years ago) link

Sounds like this damages Bannon's reputation as well. Which I'm fine with:

https://www.axios.com/inside-the-trumpcare-meltdown-2329417172.html

When the balky hardliners of the House Freedom Caucus visited the White House earlier this week, this was Steve Bannon's opening line, according to people in the conference room in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building:

"Guys, look. This is not a discussion. This is not a debate. You have no choice but to vote for this bill."

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 March 2017 14:36 (seven years ago) link

“He'll take your call and invite you to the Oval Office, but he just wants you to say nice things about him on TV,” the source says he told Napolitano at the time.

oh christiepaws

“Yeah. Huh, thanks.” (los blue jeans), Saturday, 25 March 2017 14:36 (seven years ago) link

Doesn't scan so good, but it's got potential for a stanza-ending blues lyric imho.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 25 March 2017 14:40 (seven years ago) link

Hey baby, come to the White House tonight
I ain't lookin to get in no fight,
I just want you to say if you can
Tell it to the stuffed suits out at CNN
Baby, can you dig your man?
He's a righteous man
Tell em baby, can you dig your man?

Neanderthal, Saturday, 25 March 2017 14:54 (seven years ago) link

man someone had fun pressing "play" imo

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Saturday, 25 March 2017 14:59 (seven years ago) link

i hope poor milo's doing okay now that people have finally said "no" to daddy

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 25 March 2017 15:01 (seven years ago) link

Hey baby, come to the White House tonight
I ain't lookin to get in no fight,
I just want you to say if you can
Tell it to the stuffed suits out at CNN
Baby, can you dig your man?
He's a righteous man
Tell em baby, can you dig your man?

― Neanderthal, Saturday, March 25, 2017 9:54 AM (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Get Henley on the phone, I smell a new single...

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 25 March 2017 15:17 (seven years ago) link

what would Don say about these happenings?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 March 2017 15:42 (seven years ago) link

Get Over It!

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 25 March 2017 15:49 (seven years ago) link

to add to the bannon quote that ned mentioned above, here was trump's contribution:

The report described a meeting that Trump had with members of the Freedom Caucus, in which members pelted him with "wonkish concerns" about specific aspects of the Republicans' bill to repeal and replace Obamacare. Trump cut them off, according to the report, wanting to keep it simple.

"Forget about the little shit," Trump said, unnamed sources told Politico."Let's focus on the big picture here."

That reportedly did not sit well with members in attendance.

"We’re talking about one-fifth of our economy," an unnamed member told Politico's Tim Alberta.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 25 March 2017 15:55 (seven years ago) link

"...and that little shit's name...was Reince Preibus. I'm Paul Harvey."

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 March 2017 15:58 (seven years ago) link

gooooood day!

Karl Malone, Saturday, 25 March 2017 16:01 (seven years ago) link

The great one speaks!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/845645916732358656

ObamaCare will explode and we will all get together and piece together a great healthcare plan for THE PEOPLE. Do not worry!

A separate response:

https://twitter.com/KT_So_It_Goes/status/845661683628564481

Sitting back & letting your voters go broke until they love you more is a bold political strategy

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 March 2017 16:10 (seven years ago) link

On Friday evening, a somewhat shellshocked president retreated to the White House residence to grieve and assign blame. He asked his advisers repeatedly: Whose fault was this?

Increasingly, that blame has fallen on Reince Priebus, the White House chief of staff, who coordinated the initial legislative strategy on the health care repeal with Speaker Paul D. Ryan, his close friend and a fellow Wisconsin native, according to three people briefed on Mr. Trump’s recent discussions.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 25 March 2017 16:20 (seven years ago) link

trump-health-care-defeat-gop-civil-war

that's a nice URL, wish I could have shown myself this the morning of Nov 9

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 25 March 2017 16:24 (seven years ago) link

it seemed to some members of that group, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, that he did not have the greatest grasp of health care policy or legislative procedure.

lol ya think?

sleeve, Saturday, 25 March 2017 16:26 (seven years ago) link

heh

Mr. Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who returned on Friday from a family skiing trip to Aspen, Colo., had said for weeks that he thought supporting the bill was a mistake, according to two people who spoke with him. The president, according to two Republicans close to the White House, expressed annoyance that Mr. Kushner, who has described himself as a first-among-equals adviser, was not on site during the consequential week of wrangling. Tom Price, who left Congress to become Mr. Trump’s health and human services secretary, was singled out for blame.

heh

Until the final week, Mr. Trump’s team was deeply divided over whether he should fully commit to a hard sell on a bill they viewed as fundamentally flawed, with Vice President Mike Pence pointedly advising the president to label the effort “Ryancare,” not “Trumpcare,” according to aides.

heh

After it was all over, the president dutifully blamed the Democrats, a party out of power and largely leaderless, after turning his back on their offers to negotiate on a bipartisan package that would have addressed shortcomings in the Affordable Care Act while preserving its core protections for poor and working class patients.

Several aides advised him the argument was nonsensical, according to a person with knowledge of the interaction.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 25 March 2017 16:27 (seven years ago) link

Meantime, excellent music criticism here:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2618436#.WNaQpDNWH5c.twitter

For those who don't remember, Papa Roach is a band that had a hit in 2000 called "Last Resort." The song, which is about cutting or something, had a decent guitar lick, but that's the only praise it deserves.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 March 2017 16:29 (seven years ago) link

Several Aides Advised Him the Argument Was Nonsensical: The Inside Story Of The Trump Presidency

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 25 March 2017 16:33 (seven years ago) link

perfect

sleeve, Saturday, 25 March 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link

The other two tweets are great too!

https://twitter.com/paparoach/status/845464996695883776

https://twitter.com/paparoach/status/845481000809332737

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 March 2017 16:38 (seven years ago) link

haha, those tweets are the only good things Papa Roach has ever produced

akm, Saturday, 25 March 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link

Well, Trump has a far better grip on political reality than these aides, anyway. It is a nonsensical argument, but that's good.

why labour 'foot problems' since 2015? (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 25 March 2017 17:08 (seven years ago) link

a compelling story but there's a couple of "this one either isn't true or is unsourceable" annotations that make me think this one'll have no legs

though the tempest rages, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 25 March 2017 17:55 (seven years ago) link

Think whatever's happening with Flynn right now is what to ponder. The guy's been awfully quiet.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 March 2017 17:56 (seven years ago) link

The articles with 'blown wide open' and 'this changes everything' need to stop. It's not helpful.

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 25 March 2017 17:57 (seven years ago) link

Per Abrahamson sources, Jeff Sessions "_definitely_" met with the Russian ambassador a third time, which he has continued to conceal from Congress, even after he 'corrected' his testimony about _never_ meeting with the Russian ambassador during the campaign. If the source isn't shit, then that's some nice perjuring there, Mr. Attorney General.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 25 March 2017 18:01 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/845719948018302977

(THREAD) BREAKING: Harvard professor and @CNN political analyst Juliette Kayyem says, per sources, Michael Flynn may have flipped on Trump.

jason waterfalls (gbx), Saturday, 25 March 2017 20:09 (seven years ago) link

"Sources" whose first port of call is the host of the Security Mom podcast.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 25 March 2017 20:15 (seven years ago) link

yeah i dont see this going anywhere

jason waterfalls (gbx), Saturday, 25 March 2017 20:15 (seven years ago) link

Oh god his face follows your mouse.

Evan, Saturday, 25 March 2017 21:02 (seven years ago) link

Oh America...

I gotta get me one of these shirts, though

Their three children, ages 9, 5 and 2, each wore shirts saying “I Am Not Pizza #pizzagate.”

Fetchboy, Saturday, 25 March 2017 23:44 (seven years ago) link

I would argue against wishful thinking re these new Flynn suppositions, obviously...but I would say that whatever smoke sure appears to be getting thicker all of a sudden. Manafort, Page and Stone all being suddenly eager to make their case is of interest.

But I would add two things to consider:

1) Flynn is as much driven by revenge as Trump is. His whole arc of rising up to DIA, being forced out for being incompetent/horrible, brooding angrily, getting on the Trump train and becoming NSA made that clear. And then just a few weeks in, he's out again. I can't imagine this is a happy man. And I can imagine him going "And this is the thanks I get?" and acting accordingly in a variety of possible ways.

2) Let's say this all reached this particular point now even a few weeks ago (which obviously given the timeline couldn't happen but bear with me). Trump, newly inaugurated, already tripped up with the original travel ban but otherwise everything is a love-fest as such between him and Congress, more or less. Likelihood of him getting more support and cover than he already has would be much higher, and we've already seen the weird lengths Nunes will go to.

Buuuut...Friday just happened. All of a sudden a lot of people both in Congress and, more importantly in this case, the White House come across looking like incompetent, disorganized fools who have deeply damaged their images and reputation. A perceived unity of purpose has just been completely smashed on the highest profile issue they've been kvetching about this whole decade to date. And even now you've got a slew of GOP types already worrying about 2018 and thinking that Trump's perceived benefits, or fears resulting from his actions towards them via mean tweets or whatever, are a lot less essential in their calculations.

Neither of these points mean something big is about to happen. But I think things are suddenly looking a little less absolute when it comes to thinking something big could never happen.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 March 2017 00:10 (seven years ago) link

Also I'm seeing something about a meeting between Flynn, Turkish officials and Nunes...in January. But I'd like a little more confirmation on that.

This, though, this is interesting:

https://twitter.com/lrozen/status/845730532382199815

Asked spokesman for Flynn if he is cooperating w/the FBI. He said he is not responding. Not denying or confirming, I asked. "Not responding"

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 March 2017 00:22 (seven years ago) link

(Apologies if that was already posted. This thread's been like a bullet train the last couple of days.)

Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Sunday, 26 March 2017 01:15 (seven years ago) link

Tagline: “a selection of whiskies that are stronger together than apart.”

https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/03/22/dc-distiller-names-whiskey-after-hillary-clinton/

No marketing budget for Wisconsin or Michigan tho

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 March 2017 01:18 (seven years ago) link

Heeeeyyyy

Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Sunday, 26 March 2017 03:33 (seven years ago) link

Minor hmm, but still a hmm.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/25/us/politics/boris-epshteyn-white-house-press-official-is-let-go-from-his-job.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share

Boris Epshteyn, an official in the White House press office who had a contentious relationship with television producers and was once a frequent presence on TV himself, is leaving his job, according to three people with knowledge of the move.

The departure was treated with some mystery. Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, would not comment on the reason Mr. Epshteyn, an old friend of President Trump’s son Eric, was expected to depart the post.

A senior administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said only that officials were exploring other opportunities in the administration for Mr. Epshteyn, who at one point was on cable news as many as seven times a day promoting Mr. Trump during the presidential campaign.

Another person briefed on the discussions said that Mr. Epshteyn’s move was still pending, and that both he and the administration sought it. The person maintained that it was not an acrimonious situation.

But two people familiar with Mr. Epshteyn’s tenure said he had become combative with the networks on which he was assigned to book surrogates defending the administration, a junior position for someone who has other news media experience, which he does.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 March 2017 03:33 (seven years ago) link

think about this "omg did Flynn flip story" is beyond even the whole circumstantial, thin nature of it, but....that even if it is true, the effort required to remove all the guilty parties from office would be massive. I mean a few of em might just do the Nixon and resign but Trump will obviously not do that, and then there's the whole question of will the Republicans still continue to go down with the sinking ship.

still tho....if it prevents him from getting any of his stupid agenda through....

Neanderthal, Sunday, 26 March 2017 04:17 (seven years ago) link

Please enjoy some schadenfreude.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/25/us/trump-supporters-gop-health-bill.html

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 March 2017 04:18 (seven years ago) link


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