Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

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they are really good at blaming obama for stuff though. i will give them that. they could just do that for four years.

scott seward, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link

True but they're in charge, so.

right, I don't think it's a winning strategy either. But it does indicate that Trump has learned a lesson about the importance of party unity - he's not going to go after the FC caucus guys - he actually managed to reign in his ego in an act of self-preservation, which is unusual.

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:26 (seven years ago) link

Aw, he was so dewy-eyed and hopeful then

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/839883804315684864

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:26 (seven years ago) link

i bet there is something they could put together. make concessions to the right ppl, give out some pork, whatever. obamacare took a lot of dealmaking to pass.

nope - FC is just that far from the middle. and there's no more traditional "pork" projects, remember all that type of shit got banned from the budget.

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link

trump, unfiltered, on the phone with NYT, once again proves what a fucking asshole he is:

Mr. Trump, in a telephone interview moments after the bill was pulled, blamed Democrats and predicted that they would seek a deal within a year, he asserted, after “Obamacare explodes” because of high premiums.

He expressed weariness with the fight.

“The best thing that could happen is exactly what happened — watch,” he said. “It’s enough already,” he added.

imagine if what he's saying comes to pass. obamacare "explodes", no one can afford health insurance, the death spiral spirals, etc. and that's the "best thing that could happen" because apparently it would be a political victory for him (itself a very dubious proposition but just imagine it's true for a second). fucking asshole.

Karl Malone, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link

@MaggieNYT
TRUMP tells me in interview this is now the Democrats' fault, and that he anticipates that when Obama "explodes" they will be ready to deal

@DougHenwood
I have some issues with Obama but I hope he doesn’t explode.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link

as I've said before, Ryan could probably cobble together a coalition of "moderates" from both parties, but he won't do that because he would risk losing the speakership.

xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link

“The best thing that could happen is exactly what happened — watch,” he said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCm9788Tb5g

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link

BethKnits‏ @KnittinBeth 14m14 minutes ago

@brithume You vastly underestimate @realDonaldTrump He will stick by his promise to the American people. Time for @RandPaul to step forward.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link

Step forward, Rand Paul!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link

anyway, announcing he'll be involved w/ the biz sounds like a "make my day" taunt to Dems

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link

Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Mitch McConnell are sharing magnums of champagne right now.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link

bethknits

chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:33 (seven years ago) link

is the ACA collapse a fiction invented by the gop or something that is actually possible? it's hard to look at the result of today and the decision to potentially leave the ACA in place as anything but a significant victory for tons of people

art, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:34 (seven years ago) link

it's mostly a fiction. a lot of the bigger problems w it are in GOP-controlled states that refused the Medicaid expansion, so sort of a "cutting off their nose to spite their face" scenario.

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:36 (seven years ago) link

is trump dumb enough to try to make a deal on single payer?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:38 (seven years ago) link

Sure.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:40 (seven years ago) link

Theoretically they could announce that they won't enforce the mandate, though I guess the IRS director would have to be on board.

JoeStork, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:40 (seven years ago) link

Meantime:

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/845372996982358016

Does Trump regret starting his agenda with health care? “No, I don’t,” he told me. "But in a way I’m glad I got it out of the way.”

Whaddaya gonna do.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:40 (seven years ago) link

is there a single republican who would vote for single payer?

Karl Malone, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:40 (seven years ago) link

Haha!

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/845369036242370560

“I would say within anywhere from 5 to 12 votes,” Trump told me, of how close the GOP came to passage

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:41 (seven years ago) link

xxxpost the markets have been said to be stable with ACA, contrary to what the GOP has said (the CBO even indicated under the new bill there would have been stability even though the prices would cause so many people to stop buying). the issue with ACA isn't so much that the market is collapsing, it's that people in specific areas (like the ones Shakey referenced above) can't find affordable options if they're on the bubble where they make too much for subsidies or "waivers", but not enough to actually afford the insurance.

so there are real problems (including the nightmare of a website), but the price increases under ACA have been less than that prior to that act, and some have said the last increases may have been bigger than future ones will be.

i am also Tombot (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:41 (seven years ago) link

oh, i'm guessing you mean after 2018, when theoretically the democrats might regain the house

that would be AWESOME, and yeah, who knows about trump

Karl Malone, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link

i don't know, i feel like he's dumb enough to try it without a democrat majority, but yeah, i was thinking after 2018.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:43 (seven years ago) link

Roffle again

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/845369177636524034

TRUMP singled out Tuesday Group for praise, said they'd been "terrific" in implicit knock on Freedom Caucus.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:43 (seven years ago) link

TRUMP'S GOING ON TV RN

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:43 (seven years ago) link

he's dumb enough to try it without a democrat majority,

wtf guys this will never happen

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:44 (seven years ago) link

Meanwhile, the lives and loves of Paul Ryan:

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/845369771856158720

"Yes this does make tax reform more difficult," Ryan says, contra @PressSec to my question earlier.

https://twitter.com/juliamacfarlane/status/845370175797018624

Paul Ryan: "We were an opposition party for ten years, now we have to govern and it's harder." <-- politically not a great thing to admit

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:44 (seven years ago) link

TRUMP'S GOING ON TV RN

If he doesn't come in driving that truck from yesterday he has wasted all his remaining capital.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:45 (seven years ago) link

Are you still withdrawn from Twitter, Ned? Cause this is a lot of tweets.

(Make embed tweets real mods, plz)

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:45 (seven years ago) link

wtf guys this will never happen

― Οὖτις, Friday, March 24, 2017 4:44 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i dunno, he's extremely dumb.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:46 (seven years ago) link

single-payer will never get a single GOP vote, much less a push from a President who can't be bothered to figure out how it would work.

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:47 (seven years ago) link

Paul Ryan....just yesterday

https://twitter.com/PRyan/status/844941564044611584

Repeal of Obamacare must happen, and urgently, because American families are already paying the price of the law’s collapse.

Also:

Are you still withdrawn from Twitter, Ned? Cause this is a lot of tweets.

Not regularly posting there or FB, not checking my feeds either in general. In crunch times like these, those, scouring some other feeds can be most amusing.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:47 (seven years ago) link

and betraying his party and his voting base in the process

xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:48 (seven years ago) link

I would never betray my voting base.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:48 (seven years ago) link

Oh I agree and value your contributions!

Wish ilx would do embeds tbh

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:48 (seven years ago) link

Xxxp

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:48 (seven years ago) link

xpost also it's very doubtful that democrats would support single payer, either. They all take money from the same people.

Karl Malone, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:49 (seven years ago) link

I like how Ned always copy-and-pastes the contents of the tweet right there in the body of the ILX post. I have having to click on things.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:49 (seven years ago) link

some Democrats definitely would support single-payer, come on. A majority? idk

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link

And now I should do some actual work but for now, pfft.

https://twitter.com/AliceOllstein/status/845373755136380929

I can't get over this quote from @RepJoeBarton after the #AHCA failed.

Said quote being:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7te7WZW4AI4OXB.jpg:large

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link

now Trump sez the vote was close, "about 10 to 15."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7tiS09U8AAlzXf.jpg

mookieproof, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:52 (seven years ago) link

some Democrats definitely would support single-payer, come on.

oh for sure! didn't mean to imply otherwise (also typing on my phone so i'm taking shortcuts, sorry)

A majority? idk

not even close to a majority at this point

Karl Malone, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:52 (seven years ago) link

@dick_nixon
This used to be a game for men.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:54 (seven years ago) link

"I worked as a team player... We learned a lot about the vote-getting process." - guesswho

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:55 (seven years ago) link

10 to 15 on a party line vote isn't really "close" imo

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:55 (seven years ago) link

You are @dick_nixon Morbs and I claim my five quid.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:56 (seven years ago) link

10 to 15 on a party line vote isn't really "close" imo

― Οὖτις, Friday, March 24, 2017 4:55 PM

That's my point! Twenty minutes ago it was "five to nine."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:57 (seven years ago) link


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