Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

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Welp, pulling out is one way not have to pay for prenatal care HEYOOOOO

takin care of bismuth (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link

of course, isn't it the political resilience of social welfare programs that conservatives are so afraid of? like, once you've given everyone health care there's no way they're gonna let go of it

― jason waterfalls (gbx),

that's what they're rending their garments about on FOX News as I type.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:13 (seven years ago) link

He's trying, isn't he

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/845367270759153664

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/845367528062902273

TRUMP told me he is happy having this in the rearview mirror. "It's enough already," he said of the negotiations....POTUS did not sound mad, showed uncharacteristic discipline as he talked about who had let him down (he said Democrats).

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:13 (seven years ago) link

(he said Democrats).

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:15 (seven years ago) link

love the parentheses

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:15 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/845368042058121216

Paul Ryan: “Doing big things is hard”

Pobrecito.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:16 (seven years ago) link

Roffle. (Re Trump calling NYT/WaPo out of the gate)

https://twitter.com/DylanByers/status/845366186757926912

Colleague notes this is reminiscent of the way Trump used to call New York tabloids when he was getting divorced...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:17 (seven years ago) link

Ryan: "We were doing Democrats a favor" by repealing the bill.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:18 (seven years ago) link

Wow at all this.

Ryan's presser is kind of beautifully pathetic.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:19 (seven years ago) link

why not just try to make Obamacare work better

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:19 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7hzA2XVwAAsg8I.jpg

scott seward, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link

Trump trying to blame Democrats (and not his own caucus) indicates he's aware that party in-fighting isn't going to help him.

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link

obamacare is so bad, so evil, so catastrophically constructed that there is absolutely nothing that can be done to improve it in any way.

Karl Malone, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link

Ryan: "We were doing Democrats a favor" by repealing the bill.

Fascinatingly abysmal that this is the route they're both going. They're obviously going to try and claim come 2018 that there wasn't anything they could do in the intervening time to stop projected problems. Exactly how does that even work?

Trump trying to blame Democrats (and not his own caucus) indicates he's aware that party in-fighting isn't going to help him.

True but they're in charge, so.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:21 (seven years ago) link

Lawmakers say Paul Ryan says "we are done with the subject. We are moving on," per @HouseInSession

this is idiotic. why don't they try to come up with another bill that is palatable to their party? it's almost as if they don't really want to repel it and are taking the first opportunity possible to give up.

Mordy, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:22 (seven years ago) link

Seeing plenty of responses like this:

https://twitter.com/brithume/status/845366933788745728

Political reality: the GOP majority, after trying and failing to undo it, now owns Obamacare as it gradually collapses. On them now.

And (assuming collapse happens) true. If it doesn't happen...that would be funnier.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:23 (seven years ago) link

lol, someone just asked ryan about whether or not they planned to move ahead to Phase 2 and Phase 3

there was this beautiful moment when you could see Ryan remembering that Phase 2 and Phase 3 were things that they had referenced and that it was real to some people

Karl Malone, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:23 (seven years ago) link

they had eight fuckin years to come up with something and spent like 2 weeks trying to pass it then giving up

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:23 (seven years ago) link

why don't they try to come up with another bill that is palatable to their party?

there isn't one

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:23 (seven years ago) link

proud of paul ryan for not crying during that presser. poor guy. maybe they can just cut taxes harder now going forward to make him feel better

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link

A fair number of reactions to that Hume tweet are truly hilarious. Clueless would be an understatement.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link

i bet there is something they could put together. make concessions to the right ppl, give out some pork, whatever. obamacare took a lot of dealmaking to pass. i think it's more likely that they'd rather lose.

Mordy, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link

they are really good at blaming obama for stuff though. i will give them that. they could just do that for four years.

scott seward, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link

True but they're in charge, so.

right, I don't think it's a winning strategy either. But it does indicate that Trump has learned a lesson about the importance of party unity - he's not going to go after the FC caucus guys - he actually managed to reign in his ego in an act of self-preservation, which is unusual.

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:26 (seven years ago) link

Aw, he was so dewy-eyed and hopeful then

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/839883804315684864

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:26 (seven years ago) link

i bet there is something they could put together. make concessions to the right ppl, give out some pork, whatever. obamacare took a lot of dealmaking to pass.

nope - FC is just that far from the middle. and there's no more traditional "pork" projects, remember all that type of shit got banned from the budget.

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link

trump, unfiltered, on the phone with NYT, once again proves what a fucking asshole he is:

Mr. Trump, in a telephone interview moments after the bill was pulled, blamed Democrats and predicted that they would seek a deal within a year, he asserted, after “Obamacare explodes” because of high premiums.

He expressed weariness with the fight.

“The best thing that could happen is exactly what happened — watch,” he said. “It’s enough already,” he added.

imagine if what he's saying comes to pass. obamacare "explodes", no one can afford health insurance, the death spiral spirals, etc. and that's the "best thing that could happen" because apparently it would be a political victory for him (itself a very dubious proposition but just imagine it's true for a second). fucking asshole.

Karl Malone, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link

@MaggieNYT
TRUMP tells me in interview this is now the Democrats' fault, and that he anticipates that when Obama "explodes" they will be ready to deal

@DougHenwood
I have some issues with Obama but I hope he doesn’t explode.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link

as I've said before, Ryan could probably cobble together a coalition of "moderates" from both parties, but he won't do that because he would risk losing the speakership.

xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link

“The best thing that could happen is exactly what happened — watch,” he said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCm9788Tb5g

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link

BethKnits‏ @KnittinBeth 14m14 minutes ago

@brithume You vastly underestimate @realDonaldTrump He will stick by his promise to the American people. Time for @RandPaul to step forward.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link

Step forward, Rand Paul!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link

anyway, announcing he'll be involved w/ the biz sounds like a "make my day" taunt to Dems

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link

Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Mitch McConnell are sharing magnums of champagne right now.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link

bethknits

chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:33 (seven years ago) link

is the ACA collapse a fiction invented by the gop or something that is actually possible? it's hard to look at the result of today and the decision to potentially leave the ACA in place as anything but a significant victory for tons of people

art, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:34 (seven years ago) link

it's mostly a fiction. a lot of the bigger problems w it are in GOP-controlled states that refused the Medicaid expansion, so sort of a "cutting off their nose to spite their face" scenario.

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:36 (seven years ago) link

is trump dumb enough to try to make a deal on single payer?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:38 (seven years ago) link

Sure.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:40 (seven years ago) link

Theoretically they could announce that they won't enforce the mandate, though I guess the IRS director would have to be on board.

JoeStork, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:40 (seven years ago) link

Meantime:

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/845372996982358016

Does Trump regret starting his agenda with health care? “No, I don’t,” he told me. "But in a way I’m glad I got it out of the way.”

Whaddaya gonna do.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:40 (seven years ago) link

is there a single republican who would vote for single payer?

Karl Malone, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:40 (seven years ago) link

Haha!

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/845369036242370560

“I would say within anywhere from 5 to 12 votes,” Trump told me, of how close the GOP came to passage

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:41 (seven years ago) link

xxxpost the markets have been said to be stable with ACA, contrary to what the GOP has said (the CBO even indicated under the new bill there would have been stability even though the prices would cause so many people to stop buying). the issue with ACA isn't so much that the market is collapsing, it's that people in specific areas (like the ones Shakey referenced above) can't find affordable options if they're on the bubble where they make too much for subsidies or "waivers", but not enough to actually afford the insurance.

so there are real problems (including the nightmare of a website), but the price increases under ACA have been less than that prior to that act, and some have said the last increases may have been bigger than future ones will be.

i am also Tombot (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:41 (seven years ago) link

oh, i'm guessing you mean after 2018, when theoretically the democrats might regain the house

that would be AWESOME, and yeah, who knows about trump

Karl Malone, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link

i don't know, i feel like he's dumb enough to try it without a democrat majority, but yeah, i was thinking after 2018.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:43 (seven years ago) link

Roffle again

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/845369177636524034

TRUMP singled out Tuesday Group for praise, said they'd been "terrific" in implicit knock on Freedom Caucus.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:43 (seven years ago) link

TRUMP'S GOING ON TV RN

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:43 (seven years ago) link

he's dumb enough to try it without a democrat majority,

wtf guys this will never happen

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 20:44 (seven years ago) link


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