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"Pug Owners Interpret the 4 Songs on Black Kid's The Wizard of Ahhhs"

Evan, Thursday, 23 March 2017 15:32 (seven years ago) link

There better be a 10 year anniversary piece on The Wizard of Ahhs when the time comes.

P4K sort of ruined Black Kids' career, didn't they? I still listen to "I'm Not Gonna Teach Your Boyfriend How To Dance With You" regularly.

Handsome Bookor, Friday, 24 March 2017 13:22 (seven years ago) link

P4K sort of ruined Black Kids' career, didn't they?

Well, they *did* get Chief Keef thrown in jail...

SSN Lucci (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 24 March 2017 13:26 (seven years ago) link

i want a retrospective on Da Wizzard of Odds

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K9EFFHbKDeY/hqdefault.jpg

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 March 2017 16:37 (seven years ago) link

Gettin tired really fast with all the 'x-year anniversary' stuff. Now Person Pitch 10th bday is enough for a whole retrospective?

narcissistic attention-grab metrics: they need stories readers will click and share because they say what they already think/care about

j., Friday, 24 March 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link

fucking pissed abt the pallbearer review :[

Balðy Daudrs (contenderizer), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:24 (seven years ago) link

as a mild-to-moderate pallbearer fan i'm listening to this and it seems like a good pallbearer album and i don't see why this one would be singled out for a pan when the other two were best new music

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:42 (seven years ago) link

though i feel like p-fork does this a lot like we'll build u up we'll tear u down thing

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:47 (seven years ago) link

I hated the first two and like this one a lot. Review seems boneheaded to me, not a pfork thing so much as Real Metal Dudez getting the knives out for a band that got too big too fast.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:51 (seven years ago) link

though i feel like p-fork does this a lot like we'll build u up we'll tear u down thing

they are going to pan the new FJM album

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:52 (seven years ago) link

One would hope

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:55 (seven years ago) link

i hate that i knew that acronym despite never seeing it before and never (knowingly) hearing FJM's music

Karl Malone, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:59 (seven years ago) link

I was surprised by knowing it myself, though I do hate the guys music with a passion.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:59 (seven years ago) link

i worked in a coffee shop in 2012 so i feel like patient zero of the FJM plague

bomb diggy diggy diggy bomb diggy bomb (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 March 2017 18:01 (seven years ago) link

though i feel like p-fork does this a lot like we'll build u up we'll tear u down thing

― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, March 24, 2017 1:47 PM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ah yes, the "British Press" model:

1st album: saviours of rock and roll, best since the Beatles!
2nd album: These tossers are still around?

Wimmels, Friday, 24 March 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link

http://pitchfork.com/tv/56-liner-notes/1957-kraftwerks-trans-europe-express-in-4-minutes/

tk-tk-a-tk
k-tk-tk-a-tk
k-tk-tk-a-tk
k-tk-tk-a-tk
waaaaaaaa
woooooooo
waaaaaaaa
woooooooo

okay, i get the idea, next...

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link

Endless Endless i don't have time for this just give me the highlights

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link

i'm interested in kraftwerk but i don't have time to listen to a full song, what are the essential things i should know to be a huge fan without listening to them?

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 16:22 (seven years ago) link

Please don't tell me all Muricans pronounce kosmische as kosMEESHe like in that vid. Spilled coffee over my keyboard hearing that.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 16:22 (seven years ago) link

Lol Zach

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 16:23 (seven years ago) link

Please don't tell me all Muricans pronounce kosmische as kosMEESHe like in that vid. Spilled coffee over my keyboard hearing that.

― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, March 28, 2017 12:22 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

please enlighten us (seriously)

Wimmels, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link

KOSmische. (Click the play button here

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link

It is also the rarest of things: a McCartney record where you can sense his need to be loved.

lol

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 21:41 (seven years ago) link

http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/10045-the-50-best-britpop-albums/?page=4

The definitive list, folks. Space and Catatonia are here to stay.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 12:52 (seven years ago) link

That top four is magnificently dull and predictable

p.s. different class is more overrated than any other britpop album

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 13:02 (seven years ago) link

pfork writing about hefner in 2017 but in the context of britpop is some monkey's paw shit. also granted i was a kid but placebo being britpop? o_O

devvvine, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 13:17 (seven years ago) link

Hmm. Somehow I don't think I'm interested in what an American web-based publication has to say about '90s guitar music from the UK, particularly if that web-based publication is Pitchfork.

Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 13:20 (seven years ago) link

Placebo were a guitar band in the '90s that people liked alongside some other guitar bands in the '90s.

Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 13:21 (seven years ago) link

Are Hefner any good? I like the frontman's album about lidos.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 13:42 (seven years ago) link

And the one about the villages. That's nice, too.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 13:42 (seven years ago) link

idk if it's for everybody but I love hefner and the fidelity wars especially. definitely a different tone to his solo stuff though.

devvvine, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 13:49 (seven years ago) link

Catatonia frontwoman Cerys Matthews made headlines for boasting that International Velvet’s lead single, “Mulder and Scully,” was better than Oasis’ single “All Around the World.”

kind of lol but mostly sad

soref, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 14:03 (seven years ago) link

Over the past few years, there have been a handful of albums similar to Crow, or at least with a similarly autobiographical premise: Sun Kil Moon’s Benji, Sufjan Stevens’ Carrie & Lowell, Nick Cave’s Skeleton Tree, stark, diaristic albums haunted by literal death, grief on record. Indie culture tends to prize this kind of undecorated directness as a stand-in for truth, as though nobody has ever spoken clearly and lied.

I know it feels good to have 3 examples of your proposed trend, but Skeleton Tree is a different beast than these other albums

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link

I'm just amused by the fact that Shampoo is #17.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 14:31 (seven years ago) link

And disappointed in the lack of Menswe@r.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 14:40 (seven years ago) link

They almost made the Space album sound good. And I've heard the Space album.

No Dodgy :(

Frederik B, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link

I'm amused I wasn't asked to join in this one!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link

Ian Cohen writing about Placebo is a hate crime

"Britpop's rigid heteronormativity" effectively erases Brett and Jarvis' gender/sexual fluidity, which was prob much more subversive than Molko, but w/e, pretty sure a dead battery could write circles around that guy

fgti, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 22:14 (seven years ago) link

I realize my opinions on britpop are Wrong and I am a terrible person for them but I really like catatonia

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 22:51 (seven years ago) link

Urban Hymns has sooooo much filler on it. A Northern Soul is way better. Dull list, and Everything Must Go at 32!!!

Went on a big Britpop binge last Oct/Nov and I couldn't help but noticing how lame the drumming is on so much of it.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 23:02 (seven years ago) link

Also if they are including things that "aren't Britpop" or by acts who "aren't a Britpop band" (but are by '90s UK guitar-rock acts) the omission of The Holy Bible is a head-scratcher.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 23:09 (seven years ago) link

Catatonia might be tolerable with a different singer

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 23:14 (seven years ago) link

catatonia are good! they had a really great run of singles.

i kept thinking of this comp when i was browsing this list. i bought it at virgin megastore and found out about a lot of bands (sfa and my life story were my faves) as a result

https://www.discogs.com/Various-The-BestAlbum-In-The-WorldEver/release/6664793

maura, Thursday, 30 March 2017 00:50 (seven years ago) link

'Mulder and Scully' was a better single than 'All Around The World' ... and even though I listen to A Storm In Heaven the most out of all of Verve's records, I think Urban Hymns has some incredible stuff on it and think the production on it's great.

The Roger Waters Experience (Turrican), Thursday, 30 March 2017 00:58 (seven years ago) link

Catatonia hit a bit of a sweet spot thanks to a lot of attention to any number of Welsh acts at the time while also serving up perfectly fine pop-rock of the time and place (yards better than the fucking Stereophonics, for instance). And it seems Matthews keeps on in a Lauren Laverne way via broadcasting, writing, etc, so why not?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 March 2017 00:59 (seven years ago) link

Hmm. When it comes to Catatonia, I'd say their two most successful albums (International Velvet and Equally Cursed & Blessed) are riddled with filler, but you could probably make up a decent 45 minute playlist of the highlights - stuff like 'Game On', 'Bulimic Beats' etc. Their final album, Paper Scissors Stone is fucking excrement from front-to-back. However - their debut, Way Beyond Blue, is as good as it gets... Cerys' vocal mannerisms are relatively dialled in on that record, the production is mostly OTM, and I'd say it had the strongest material the band ever had - 'Sweet Catatonia', 'You've Got a Lot to Answer For' etc. The drummer from Super Furry Animals plays on a few tracks on the LP, too.

The Roger Waters Experience (Turrican), Thursday, 30 March 2017 01:05 (seven years ago) link

No Moloko, no credibility

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Thursday, 30 March 2017 02:37 (seven years ago) link

'Mulder and Scully' was a better single than 'All Around The World'

tru

lol at talking about The Sound Of McAlmont & Butler as a thematically intended, wilfully conceived album, when it is literally a singles compilation consisting of: their two singles

a piss-take at the idea that taking lots of drugs could be fun in the first place.

sure, let's pretend this is a sentence in English

the band channel their youthful vim to spend the last five minutes of the album (“Sick Party”) violently throwing up

a hidden joke CD bonus track is not "the last five minutes of the album"

anyway this list is p boring, Shampoo is the only effort at canonbusting, Kenickie should have been top ten etc etc

(±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Thursday, 30 March 2017 06:10 (seven years ago) link

http://gph.is/YZ8x34

Django Chutney (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 March 2017 06:23 (seven years ago) link


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