Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/politics/us-officials-info-suggests-trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians/index.html

Just came here to post that. A couple of weeks ago, I would have assumed that was fake, but now...

lots of qualifiers in the first sentence

"The FBI has information that indicates associates of President Donald Trump communicated with *suspected* Russian operatives to *possibly* coordinate the release of information damaging to Hillary Clinton's campaign".

you can almost see the reporters doing air quotes as they type

you can almost see the lawyers emailing their revisions back in a red font

I don't even know how to interpret these articles

substantive news (is this even illegal?) or just continuing the drumbeat of anti-trump coverage? both?

I don't even know how to interpret these articles

substantive news (is this even illegal?) or just continuing the drumbeat of anti-trump coverage? both?

I assume this drum beat is all about Manafort. Curious if the DOJ is leaning on him to cop a plea if what they have on him is really salacious.

Health Bill Teeters as Fence-Sitters Face Pressure From Party
Many Republicans have been left with an excruciating choice: pass a deeply unpopular bill that could wreak havoc with their own voters, or turn it back and wound the president’s agenda.

idk this doesn't really seem that excruciating

Dems continue to wee themselves in front of company. Time to call ur reps again:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/gorsuch-democrats-supreme-court-236384

so did any of you guys watch the Patriot pilot on Amazon Prime or whatever? Forget it. Here you go: https://youtu.be/K_2Rx-LEeMQ?t=25m21s

This is what they think the spy game is like. This is the level of competence they come with. They need you to pee in the cup for them, because national security, okay? There might be a cop taking a shit, but sometimes you have to take risks. There is not a stupider set of people you could have in charge of this country. Not even with a time machine.

Comey may have the kind of ego that sees this as an opportunity to go down in history for the right reasons

Meantime:

https://twitter.com/jwpetersNYT/status/844702309301063681

News: Kochs pledge 7-figure fund to back anyone who votes against AHCA. A direct challenge to Trump threat that dissenters will lose seats.

How is that a "deal" on Gorsuch rmde. Calling DiFi tomorrow (again!)

I can't really get any of the schadenfreude juice out of this shit because (as mentioned somewhere around here, today) if something actually terrible and bad happens, with these profoundly, epically stupid fucks in charge, thousands of people are probably going to die.

Also, I realized I won't really be able to be OK with this shit until after this guy is in the ground, because he's going to have to have a USSS detail around the clock until then. So we're never going to stop paying for the professional protection of this guy and his family until he's gone. And all these dumb fucking hicks I grew up around and served with just want to be pissed off about how their dimes go to crappy art and some science shit about snails. Let me tell you, asshole, what I want to take out of MY budget.

Amusing.

https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/844705517851303942

Tombot is however correct re what isn't funny.

Now being reported that officials, plural, are taking collusion.

has anyone mentioned (or is surprised) that devin nunes is tied up financially in russian wine sales?

https://twitter.com/funder/status/836319817237946368

Mentioned briefly upthread. He's a dairy farmer, yeah?

he owns a vineyard, and that's it

http://static.latimes.com/how-much-are-they-worth/devin-nunes/

ok that Elaine Chao thing is pretty fucking weird

It's getting into the weeds here, but if something serious - that is to say, impeachable - were to come of all this, is the line of succession even clear?

Yes

Its in the Constitution. Pence > Hatch > Ryan > Tillerson.

Impeachment not gonna happen and not likely to improve things even if it did.

Ryan is ahead of Hatch

I can't really get any of the schadenfreude juice out of this shit because (as mentioned somewhere around here, today) if something actually terrible and bad happens, with these profoundly, epically stupid fucks in charge, thousands of people are probably going to die.

Also, I realized I won't really be able to be OK with this shit until after this guy is in the ground, because he's going to have to have a USSS detail around the clock until then. So we're never going to stop paying for the professional protection of this guy and his family until he's gone. And all these dumb fucking hicks I grew up around and served with just want to be pissed off about how their dimes go to crappy art and some science shit about snails. Let me tell you, asshole, what I want to take out of MY budget.

― Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Wednesday, March 22, 2017 9:13 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ugh sadly otm

Dan is right, stupid phone

I just meant if there were endemic corruption demonstrated (just talking hypothetical) then it's not so simple as just going down the list, is it? They'd have to have investigations and clean up the mess first. Like, if a hunk of the white house, the cabinet, etc. were all tainted by this stuff, then it's not so simple.

While I'm skeptical impeachment will happen it obviously would wound the GOP in a larger sense by the very fact of it happening, would taint the party badly for the next election. It's very much something we should root for despite how awful Pence is.

I just meant if there were endemic corruption demonstrated (just talking hypothetical) then it's not so simple as just going down the list, is it? They'd have to have investigations and clean up the mess first. Like, if a hunk of the white house, the cabinet, etc. were all tainted by this stuff, then it's not so simple.

and after the most extensive set of corruption-related scandals, resignations, and indictments of all time, the line of succession to the presidency of the united states reached its way down to Dorothy Kenson, Assistant Deputy Director of the Federal Grain Inspection Service under the Grain Inspection, Packers and Stockyards Administration within the Department of Agriculture.

http://i.imgur.com/SKKYENf.jpg

not really, but what a day that would be for her

quite the day for all of us I should think

I stand with Dorothy Kenson.

http://gaycitynews.nyc/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/wwwFriend-of-Dorothy.jpg

New Kenson Executive Order Names 'Highest Quality Grain in the World' as new U.S. motto

uh has this been covered? a defection from the Republican House, rep from Hawaii:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/hawaii-republican-leader-rep-beth-fukumoto-officially-resigns-gop-n737341

oh wait that's Hawaii House of Reps, sorry. still good news.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7kNokOXUAE6TF6.jpg

https://twitter.com/RyanLizza/status/844721400954925056

i'd say 100% chance, if the campaign manager of a democratic presidential candidate had been paid $10 million by the russian government to advance their interests, ten years ago or ten days ago, fox/koch nation would erupt in a paroxysm of second amendment solutions. what the fuck is wrong with this country?

The electoral college

i feel like we're a giant junior high, say a sixth or seventh grade with 100 kids, and the ten mean/cool/rich/popular kids have convinced about twenty more weak-minded wannabe kids to make it their number one priority in life that all ninety non-mean/cool/rich/popular kids should bow down before the ten mean/cool/rich/popular kids and do/believe whatever they say, no matter what the seventy or so rest of us want. i might be overestimating our collective maturity though

kindergarten seems more appropriate

https://themoscowtimes.com/news/breaking-former-russian-parliamentarian-and-putin-critic-shot-dead-in-kiev-57513

is it normal for all these dudes to be dying ? maybe it is but damn

It is not normal for people to be shot dead in the street, no.

Depends on your definition of normal but there is nothing to suggest this has anything to do with the US.

i was just stuck by what seems to be a significant body count in that last few months.

tbh I think that is partly because Russia / Ukraine get more coverage now.

good point

kindergarten seems more appropriate

Kindergarten population went for Clinton by like 47 points

My two year old son gets annoyed when adults are talking about adult stuff and not about him. He used to yell, "Stop talking!" but now he tries to act like he's part of the conversation. He stands between us and shouts, "Donald Truuuuump!"

I figure this is what its like when Trump talks to foreign leaders.