OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

I suspect Don van Gorp will be particularly amused by this page:

https://www.jazzatbudds.com/musings.php

the 'musings' section makes me think of an ilx thread with those three posts, then "11 years pass", then dozens of paragraphs ranting about sjws

is he a professional reviewer or is AllAboutJazz a website where anyone can set up an account and start posting stuff?

WASTEMAN

is he a professional reviewer or is AllAboutJazz a website where anyone can set up an account and start posting stuff?

The latter.

the game of trying to figure out who online is a reasonably well-adjusted person and who is just sitting alone in a room pounding on a keyboard alone coming up with hateful ideas of the world at large

brb the cat just walked in, need to see what he wants

melvin gibbs' response to the araminta review:
https://www.facebook.com/melvin.gibbs/posts/10208792547123250

aaj editor michael ricci's apology (the review has been taken down):
https://www.allaboutjazz.com/jazz-in-the-age-of-the-politicization-of-everything-araminta-harriet-tubman-by-budd-kopman.php?pg=1

I didn't get to see the Kopman piece before it was taken down, sound like I'm not missing much though

sorry, i meant to link this too (gibbs preserves/reposts the original): https://www.facebook.com/melvin.gibbs/posts/10208795027665262?pnref=story

I didn't get to see the Kopman piece before it was taken down, sound like I'm not missing much though

yet another chance to test your rage aneurysm threshold / eyeroll capacity

gibbs piece is excellent, if perhaps too kind

I cannot begin to convey the degre of shock I experienced when, after all that buildup, the album review turned out to be positive.

idk I don't think you necessarily need derrida to take down that review

Hasn't this clown noticed that Wilders lost?

bud kopman notices JAZZ, buddy

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-28/once-we-listened-to-the-beatles-now-we-eat-beetles

Most of the top music from the 1990s, such as say Alanis Morissette, would sound current if released today, a sign of cultural stasis in what was once a highly socially charged and rapidly changing sector. In 1967, music from 20 or even 10 years earlier sounded quite different and indeed archaic.

As for where the change and innovation have come, it’s hard to think of any sphere of American life where the selection and quality have improved so much as food, whether in the supermarket or in restaurants. American cities become more interesting places to dine each year, and the attention paid to food on TV and online has been growing steadily since the 1990s.

I haven't listened to Jagged Little Pill in a long time, but I'll bet it couldn't sound any more of its time.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/04/john-mayer-could-learn-something-from-game-of-thrones.html

There are few easier targets in music writing. But somehow this guy still aimed the shotgun right at his own balls.

Should have just talked about the band Marillion instead.

"I’m not saying that John Mayer should be sealed away, tortured, blinded, and de-fingered because it would better his music."

go figure

Whether Jagged Little Pill sounds of it's time probably comes down to whether you heard it at the time. The reference points for music are so different now that perhaps it would sound new to someone who is younger and only aware of the current sounds in music. That's a huge assumption on my part though

Over the weekend my girlfriend and I were on a quick road trip and for lack of anything else we listened to one of those Jack-FM style stations -- "Ironic" came up at one point and in the context of the mostly newish songs around it, it just sounded pretty out of place more than anything else. (Less so than the Thriller-era Michael Jackson songs they played, or anything random from the 80s.)

I was gonna say, it would probably sound old to someone who is younger, like '60s music did in the '80s.

i think the basic point is that, when it comes to production, you can cherry pick more or less any element from the last forty years of music and use it as a filter, a signifier, whatever, and most likely people will hear it as contemporary. nobody in the '60s had that luxury and nobody wanted to "sound like" robert johnson or joe liggins or amos milburn in terms of production.

what that has to do with food, or eating beetles, tough, is beyond me

though*

I can't ever imagine the drum loops on 'All I Really Want' or 'You Learn' sounding contemporary to anyone in 2017.

what i'm saying is that we live in this kind eternal post-modern echo chamber and it's really hard for me to imagine something sounding utterly new (isn't there a thread about this somewhere?) anyway,

i just went and listened to those songs, i've never heard alanis morissette before, i guess i'm on the fence specifically with her production. the big compressed drum loops yeah, wasn't beck doing the same thing around the same time? is '90s beck really '90s sounding? my feeling is that you could salvage many elements of this sound and put it on the radio and re-contextualize it and people wouldn't immediately be like "woah time-warp to the nineties right here" but maybe i'm wrong

How could a Guardian article about music be inflammatory enough to inspire a petition with over 600 signatures, I wondered. Then I read and marvelled: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/27/music-lessons-children-white-wealthy#comment-95607277

lol that is incredible

That is seriously like the Monty Python architect sketch come to life

Ha. I meant to link the article, not a comment by a teenager: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/27/music-lessons-children-white-wealthy

I'm actually completely in favour of teaching music without notation in certain contexts but this article (and headline) still seem pretty wrongheaded to me.

My advice would be to go into science, medicine, technology, languages etc. Anything but music. There's no money in it and it gets you nowhere - study something useful instead.

ok this isn't "bad" per se https://theoutline.com/post/1368/pop-collabs-are-boring

but i feel like taking issue with the fact that features don't always synthesize artists into the song assumes that a hip-hop feature on pop song has to be a synthesis. the fact that ty$ and fifth harmony sound distinct from each other on Work From Home doesn't make the feature "disposable". also, equating "disposable" with "boring" is (semantically, i know, but still) kinda shortsighted, especially when most pop is knowingly "disposable" already.

maybe it's just that this feels pretty under-researched and "pop ruins everything"-y, overall—i'd love to look at a thing about how exactly the feature (are we talking about hip-hop verse in place of bridge or disco-diva style EDM vocalist, though? another glossed over distinction) became a staple of the pop hit structure, but this is so fixed on putting down its subject any good points feel totally lost.

i think that's pretty bad per se

lol wasn't sure if everything had to be as glaringly bad as that Flume review from the independent

would be more interesting to talk about how guest raps have become the equivalent of the guitar solo

or how men have to horn in on ladies' songs for reasons that probably boil down to "millennial male" appeal, to sometimes disastrous effect (shudders at memory of soulja boy clomping around the opening of vistoso bosses' otherwise lovely "delirious")

anyway the outline's writing on music is p poor across the board. lifeless and whiny and completely lacking in descriptions of sound - you know. the important part

yeah they should stick to their lane of lefty politics and whatever this was

lol i didn't think soulja boy on "delirious" was that bad but yeah it was def unnecessary :X

but otm re: that kind of pairing

Not writing, but on his podcast the great Wesley Morris went on a riff about how we're in a musical period as great as the 70s with Kendrick as Stevie Wonder and Drake as Fleetwood Mac, with Views as his Tusk that just made my head explode.

barf

Finally, a TUSK we can call our own

I don't remember Fleetwood Mac sucking all to be damned

a drake is a male duck

I don't remember Fleetwood Mac sucking all to be damned

I do.

http://carriewintour.tumblr.com/post/143556693100/drake-is-the-modern-lindsey-buckingham

drake is rap's phil collins only i still don't like him

he's the phil collins era of genesis but only the song "illegal alien"

ok, not really, but that's the worst collins-related thing that came to mind