Depeche Mode - Spirit

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Almost done with the full listen -- pretty good overall and I think it'll be a strong grower. "Poorman" might be a sleeper for me in particular, but I think relistens will help make everything even more distinct. Dave's songs this time out are definite winners.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 March 2017 04:49 (seven years ago) link

I listened to half of it and Dave's "Cover Me" stood out as a highlight, but nothing really grabbed me so far. I think overall it's about as good as SOTU and better than Delta Machine, which is to say, fine

Vinnie, Friday, 17 March 2017 09:08 (seven years ago) link

urgh, way to sell it, guys

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 17 March 2017 11:10 (seven years ago) link

Haha but better to underplay expectations, surely? I will say that the whole lyrical theme throughout is definitely indicated by "Where's the Revolution?" -- expressions of regression, exhaustion, frustration, holding on to where/when one can. So credit them for committing to the full.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 March 2017 13:30 (seven years ago) link

first song is kind of great and "Where's the Revolution?" works better in context, much like "Heaven" did on Delta Machine (neither was a good single choice IMO)

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Friday, 17 March 2017 13:40 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I was thinking very much the same -- having "Going Backwards" set up "Where's the Revolution?" is an excellent one-two.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 March 2017 14:10 (seven years ago) link

Listening now, and "Cover Me" is lovely. I hope there is more like this and less of the distorto-blues thing.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 March 2017 14:52 (seven years ago) link

You mean there isn't a song on this where Gahan goes "*croak*aaaaaaaaiiiiiinnnnnggggeeeehhhllll" like he's constipated!?

Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Friday, 17 March 2017 14:58 (seven years ago) link

Ha, yeah, this album is pretty turgid. I listen to albums on shuffle, generally, and the second this one ended a Julianna Barwick track popped on, and before I realized it was her I thought the album had suddenly taken a turn for the interesting.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 March 2017 15:30 (seven years ago) link

I haven't heard it yet, but I guess it's not hard to guess what the album sounds like!

Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Friday, 17 March 2017 17:02 (seven years ago) link

Eh, I wouldn't go that far. 6 songs in and it's a good deal more energetic than that "everything is mid-tempo" listenthrough description would lead you to believe. The lyrics are thematically monochromatic with varying levels of success ("Going Backwards" and "Cover Me" are very good at delivering their message; "Where's the Revelution" and "Scum" are... not as good).

If you hate nu-Dave singing, nothing I've heard so far will change your mind.

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Friday, 17 March 2017 17:08 (seven years ago) link

Slap a "thematically monochromatic" sticker on the cover, because that about sums it up. Can't imagine coming back to this album, sounds like the band could really use a fresh approach, assuming they have it in them.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 March 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link

On the other hand, the subject matter they're tackling in the times we are currently experiencing is worth the attempt. Not sure it's 100% successful but I think it's overstating things to call this album an unbearable slog if you listen to it in order.

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Friday, 17 March 2017 17:36 (seven years ago) link

It definitely wasn't unbearable, no.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 March 2017 17:39 (seven years ago) link

Are there any surprises in the production department?

Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Friday, 17 March 2017 17:46 (seven years ago) link

It sounds a lot more like Playing the Angel than "Where's the Revolution?" would lead you to believe.

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Friday, 17 March 2017 18:04 (seven years ago) link

You Move is disorienting as hell, btw; whose idea was it to drop a 16th note from third measure of every group of four in the verse?

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Friday, 17 March 2017 19:01 (seven years ago) link

btw: https://twitter.com/i/live/839261822683226112

currently Martin is singing "Little Soul"

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Friday, 17 March 2017 19:39 (seven years ago) link

and now "Where's the Revolution?"

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Friday, 17 March 2017 19:41 (seven years ago) link

it seems he's toned down the use of vocal fry to initiate his vocal lines in live performance, anyway; it's still there but not on every single line like it was circa SOTU

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Friday, 17 March 2017 19:42 (seven years ago) link

Had to miss that performance, work meetings etc. But I'm sure it'll be around.

On the other hand, the subject matter they're tackling in the times we are currently experiencing is worth the attempt. Not sure it's 100% successful but I think it's overstating things to call this album an unbearable slog if you listen to it in order.

Agreed. Thus my comments which others apparently took the wrong way! And yeah, definitely worth the attempt. It's classic 'broad stroke' social commentary from Depeche, but the thing is, it can work or at least flow at its best. Sonically it ain't Black Celebration but lyrically definitely the closest they've been in a while.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 March 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link

I liked a lot of Sounds of the Universe but found Delta Machine a snooze and so far this one is no better. Major props to Gahan for his Spencer statement, though.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 17 March 2017 20:38 (seven years ago) link

I am very much in favor of "Fail"

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Friday, 17 March 2017 21:13 (seven years ago) link

Was disappointed with this initially but gets better in the second half I think. Some lyrics are making me cringe, but that's always been the case with this band.

silverfish, Friday, 17 March 2017 21:34 (seven years ago) link

I very much like this album, more than the last three (although i really like parts of Delta Machine). It's succinct, for one thing; like a normal album length. It's more of a mood album. I'm very pleased.

akm, Friday, 17 March 2017 22:41 (seven years ago) link

where's the revolution?

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 20 March 2017 17:51 (seven years ago) link

I am beginning to warm to "Scum"

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Monday, 20 March 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link

lol @ this RYM review "both the opener and closer describe this album perfectly"

frogbs, Monday, 20 March 2017 18:41 (seven years ago) link

Scum starts awful but turns into something great

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 20 March 2017 19:27 (seven years ago) link

now I'm imagining a Depeche Mode/LCD Soundsystem mashup

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Monday, 20 March 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link

(North American) Scum

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 20 March 2017 20:38 (seven years ago) link

I still haven't heard this yet (I know, I know!) but I have been working my way up to it by listening to all the albums from Ultra onwards and... y'know, I think both Sounds of the Universe and Delta Machine have some good stuff on 'em, just that both albums are too long. Exciter still mostly bores the tits off me, though.

Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Monday, 20 March 2017 22:59 (seven years ago) link

Listened to this all the way through tonight, while proofreading. I remember how exactly none of the songs went. They really seem to have lost any ability they had to write memorable melodies and choruses. These songs were all about a particular kind of soporific, morose mood, and I feel like all the other post-Violator albums I've heard have been like that, too. I mean, I'm not a fan - I like Masses a lot, Violator slightly less, and don't really care about anything else, but I feel like if the songs were better on the other albums I could care. But they're not, so I don't.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 01:19 (seven years ago) link

To contrast this (understandable enough) take: I'm on my third listen or so and as I figured, it's both sinking in further and feeling a little more individual and distinct song for song the more I listen. If the exchange has been less immediate out of the gate singalongs in favor of something that seeps into the memory, then weirdly enough I'm not minding at all.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 04:04 (seven years ago) link

So, I'm halfway through my first listen to this and I'm enjoying this way, way more on the first listen than the previous two. Yes, it's a slow-paced record in places, but I'm enjoying how this record sounds.

Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 23:05 (seven years ago) link

You Move is disorienting as hell, btw; whose idea was it to drop a 16th note from third measure of every group of four in the verse?

― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Friday, March 17, 2017 7:01 PM (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha, yes! That one's a Gore/Gahan co-write, I think. I love the feeling of that one!

Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 23:09 (seven years ago) link

Basically, I think this album sounds great and both Martin and Dave are performing well, but I think the big difference for me is that lyrically it moves away from themes that were starting to feel like a bit of a crutch by this point and instead explores themes which are far less trodden in DM's discography. It's great to be able to listen to a DM record without thinking "I've heard this before"

Songwriting wise, I've suspected all along that this album is going to be moody and not full of pop bangers, so I'm not disappointed that it's not 12 re-writes of 'Enjoy The Silence', but I am delighted that it's not the consistently mid-paced slog that some reviews/previews painted it as, and there are some uptempo moments. I suspect this record will grow on me further.

Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 23:28 (seven years ago) link

Third listen now, and ready to call this their best LP since Playing the Angel...

Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Wednesday, 22 March 2017 14:43 (seven years ago) link

I still like Sounds of the Universe a lot but it's very uneven in comparison; The beginning rules, the end rules, the middle is enjoyable enough if I make myself listen to it but I almost never want to.

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Wednesday, 22 March 2017 14:48 (seven years ago) link

Some interesting technical detail buried in this story (perhaps already linked)

http://consequenceofsound.net/2017/03/depeche-modes-martin-gore-and-andy-fletcher-explain-how-to-save-the-world/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 17:14 (seven years ago) link

so, there is a special edition with a disc of 'jungle spirit' remixes - '

i am assuming these aren't jungle remixes ?

are they worthy of the extra ££ for the album ?

mark e, Thursday, 23 March 2017 13:07 (seven years ago) link

eh

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Thursday, 23 March 2017 13:30 (seven years ago) link

They aren't bad but I wouldn't call any of them essential.

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Thursday, 23 March 2017 13:30 (seven years ago) link

ahh.
checked the credits via discogs expecting some current remixer names involved with them, but they are all done by the band and someone under the alias matrixxman.

mark e, Thursday, 23 March 2017 13:34 (seven years ago) link

just in case some folks aren't aware.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04wv8vb/the-6-music-festival-depeche-mode

mark e, Monday, 27 March 2017 10:09 (seven years ago) link

a couple of songs are available globally here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/e368gw/acts/ajbxp6#p04wv8vb

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 March 2017 11:59 (seven years ago) link

matrixxman (us techno producer / dj) was the programmer on the album.

i must have seen 100 gigs at glasgow barrowlands over the years. the atmosphere there is always famously electric but last night at depeche mode was probably in the top 3 ever. great, great crowd!

stirmonster, Monday, 27 March 2017 12:37 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I was duly jealous of friends who attended. And now that includes you!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 March 2017 13:37 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Nice new interview with Gore here

http://thequietus.com/articles/22177-martin-gore-depeche-mode-interview-2

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 April 2017 17:45 (seven years ago) link

And I'm rather envious of the people attending these European shows given the opener:

http://matablog.matadorrecords.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Algiers_DMTour_IG-537x537.jpg

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 19:13 (seven years ago) link


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