Vince Staples thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bmpvvlL40s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l9kzS_B7gg

Boring. I don't understand the love for this dude.

I like that one. hated his last ep tho.

"BagBak" is immense

Love this. Easily one of my favorite lyricists in hip hop atm.

My one issue with Staples is that his music can sometimes sound an like an obvious copy & paste job, inserting lyrics into a song written before he had ever heard the beat. To be fair, he's admitted that this is his process, and he'll occasionally sit on verses for years before he can find the right beat. Definitely contributes to his lyrical density. But his songs never have the fluidity of someone like Kanye or Young Thug. Plus they always feel like they're one verse too short.

That said I'm psyched for this album.

im not a big fan of his music but i feel bad shitting on it cuz he seems like a good dude

thats not a very critic-y pov but whatever

best everyday struggle so far

ilx where are you

Terrific interview: http://pitchfork.com/features/interview/vince-staples-is-the-least-corny-man-in-america/

new album is fucking great

and 36 minutes!

goddamn this is great

Sounding real good for sure.

Is it too soon for an album to look a decade ago for sounds? Some of the beats and samples suggest Hot Chip and Burial.

this shit is pretty fun imo

Really good album ender too -- knows how to wrap things up just right.

Man, good for Zack Sekoff.

like his rapping but the beats on this and on the last EP are reaaaaallly not to my taste. for "the least corny man in america" the production is very corny.

I like the beats a lot, don't get what's corny about them at all tbh

not my cup of tea

i actually dont mind the production so much because its at least original (relative to rap) but i think his rapping is just ok

"Party People"! Whole album's good but that one bangs.

I love that it feels like such a summer album, kind of simmering and hazy.

this isn't really taking, still quite impressive but the previous album had higher highs I think

his opinions about art are some elitist trash fyi

the rest of the interview is good tho

I know it's lazy/convenient to lump Vince and Kendrick together, and I love them both, but I'm finding myself favoring Vince in the same way I'm a Grant Hart partisan in Husker Du. I recognize Kendrick is more important, but I like listening to Vince more. (That said, nothing on this album touches "DNA" or "ELEMENT.")

I'd put him below Jay Rock, Ab Soul and Schoolboy Q

even like Warm Brew tbh

his opinions about art are some elitist trash fyi

― imago, Sunday, June 25, 2017 7:50 AM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao cmon dogg

I know he's fighting against other elitisms but that paragraph about preferring the idea of an elevated refuge for art is a turn-off I have to say

i actually dont mind the production so much because its at least original (relative to rap) but i think his rapping is just ok

only two listens into this so I don't have a judgement yet, but I'm kinda shocked by how little focus he puts on rapping here. He sort of disappears into a lot of these songs. On that run from Shyne Coldchain II -> Hell Can Wait -> Summertime '06 I think he was on par with just about anybody else out there, but I don't hear any of that fire here.

I'd put him below Ab Soul

ok this is heretical

I'd put him below Jay Rock, Ab Soul and Schoolboy Q

To each his own. Part of what I like about Vince is his triphop/dubstep shading, which imo sets him apart from the Black Hippy pack. But that's not necessarily a plus for everyone.

I do think Jay Rock has been unfairly slept on

I also love Vince's delivery, but I get how it could be too staccato for some tastes. I like his crispness -- even when he's mumbly, he's precise.

He's sharper than Jay Rock, more entertaining than Ab Soul and not miserable like Schoolboy Q

He sort of disappears into a lot of these songs.

I agree with this, like it's cool that the tracks are unpredictable and have a lot happening, but they could use more rapping.

m@tt you gotta take ab soul off that list its true.

7/10 UK house album, looking forward to the 'Little Fish Theory' remix album.

okay ab soul might have been trolling but I'm 100% on Jay Rock and Schoolboy Q that's real talk

Jay Rock 90059 is such a great album, for whatever reason his thing is too normal street to have a media "narrative" but he's a fucking great rapper, I don't think him and Schoolboy Q are really far off Kendrick, they just all have their own things

I think Isaiah Rashad suffers from the same problem to an extent

this does make me appreciate the azealia banks album more in retrospect

agree w. matt, btw, and isaiah rashad is better than vince too imo

Yeah parts of this remind me of Azealia but that isn't a bad thing imo. Her actual music is not the problem with AB.

I agree with this, like it's cool that the tracks are unpredictable and have a lot happening, but they could use more rapping.

― change display name (Jordan),

otm. A pleasure to listen to, though, especially at night when I don't have to concentrate on the rapping

this does make me appreciate the azealia banks album more in retrospect

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:06 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol true.

hate everything about this record

yeh im not a fan. might hate it more than the ep.

I'm kinda shocked by how little focus he puts on rapping here. He sort of disappears into a lot of these songs.

It's not exactly that he lacks presence, it's just the wrong kind of presence for these beats. Also SOPHIE can gtf.

i liked many songs off summertime, i like a few here, but man he needs how to write a fuckin song