Michael Jackson: Classic or Dud?

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or the fiction that liking beyoncé is now a requirement under the new authoritarian state of music criticism. i guess getting ppl like this is the inevitable side effect of having so many polls based on the 'acclaimedmusic' trashheap

dyl, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link

#allgenresmatter

nomar, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link

Please explain, dyl.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

here's my rambling take on Michael in the disco era, looking his underrated (imo) work leading up to Thriller plus a peek at the pre-MTV music video "scene"

https://medium.com/@markcoleman57/dancing-with-michael-jackson-remembering-music-video-before-mtv-a0c18b063581"> https://medium.com/@markcoleman57/dancing-with-michael-jackson-remembering-music-video-before-mtv-a0c18b063581

Dogshit Critic (m coleman), Friday, 21 April 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Uhhhhhh...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e62M-5-7ajY

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 10 June 2017 01:37 (six years ago) link

Classic.

Austin, Sunday, 11 June 2017 01:52 (six years ago) link

nine months pass...

On his worst single.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 March 2018 02:12 (six years ago) link

love it. your piece i mean.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 11 March 2018 12:30 (six years ago) link

four years pass...

was checking out xcape, the posthumous album, this apparently was adapted from an 83 demo of paul anka song, just beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG08ukJPtR8

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 15:12 (one year ago) link

Lowkey have been loving that since it came out

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 15:14 (one year ago) link

that song was getting played constantly when it was "finished" and it was always a joy to hear. I think they did a great job making it sound both modern and like one of those later Jacksons hits

rest of the album was kinda weird though, pretty 'good' in a sense but there's definitely something going on with the vocals that's a bit creepy

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 15:18 (one year ago) link

The breakdown with the "Working Day & Night" percussion gets me in the gut every time

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 15:21 (one year ago) link

i'm pretty impressed with this so far (only up to "place with no name" which is great)

pretty 'good' in a sense but there's definitely something going on with the vocals that's a bit creepy

not picking up on this, you thinking too much autotune?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 15:23 (one year ago) link

I wish I could wipe JT's glassy-eyed smirk from the video, but it's a jam

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 15:26 (one year ago) link

Ditto; it's an extremely well edited video aside from including JT

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 15:29 (one year ago) link

I wish I could wipe JT's glassy-eyed smirk from the video, but it's a jam

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, February 14, 2023 9:26 AM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglinkI wish I could wipe JT's glassy-eyed smirk from the video, but it's a jam

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, February 14, 2023 9:26 AM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

on the plus side, when i was just listening to it i honestly couldn't tell he was on the song

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link

not picking up on this, you thinking too much autotune?

it's not all the tracks but there are a few that feel so cut and paste where you can tell it was assembled from a bunch of different takes, which I think is kind of odd given his vocal approach. clearly they wanted all those MJ signature vocal tics but they all sound like they're pulled from different recordings, so it has a real stuttered flow to it. and yeah the autotune is a bit much in spots, like "Slave to the Rhythm" right now kinda sounds like an AI bot during the verses. admittedly this is just kind of how pop music is made nowadays, so maybe it's just knowing MJ was dead when it came out really that makes the necromancy apparent. it's actually a bit uncomfortable knowing it's probably better than an album he would've made while he was still alive.

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 15:41 (one year ago) link

ah gotcha

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link

what went wrong after 1995? were the accusations proved on trial? who were mj enemies?

CerebralCaustic, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 16:29 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

wonder who transcribed the lyrics to billie jean home demo

https://i.imgur.com/0FO8ae5.png

is there anywhere you can hear him directing his siblings singing the choir to billie jean as he's writing it? or is that just a story I read somewhere

on another note can't believe "Chicago" is one of his most popular songs now? maybe a tiktok thing

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 08:23 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

I happened upon Nelson George's Thriller: 40 the other night: while I certainly think a close examination of how the music is made, the context in which it occurred, should be the paramount rationale, I was struck that no mention was made of the fact that even then Jackson's megalomania was ascending; his obsession with being the biggest and the best deserves to be interrogated, in light of History in 1995, where his fixation on his near deification becomes particularly demented. You don't have to talk about his paedophilia or his efforts to erase his physical connection to his heritage to acknowledge that he was deeply disturbed.

veronica moser, Friday, 8 December 2023 15:52 (four months ago) link

the story that sticks out is after Thriller sets a record by selling something like 80 million copies, he tells everyone he wants Bad to sell 160 million. which apparently he was serious about! its like if the night after Wilt scored 100 points he went out and said "I'm gonna score 200 in the next one"

frogbs, Friday, 8 December 2023 16:00 (four months ago) link


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