He's not Donald trump
― The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link
that wasnt the comp
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link
the context and meaning of that obama quote is quite a bit different from what carson said
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:31 (seven years ago) link
some folks got enslaved
― salthigh, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:39 (seven years ago) link
lol if you think that's equivalent to what Carson said
― frogbs, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:42 (seven years ago) link
lol morbs trolling u guys
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link
pretty sure he got this from Breitbart. at least, i know they were pushing this comp yesterday.
― evol j, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:59 (seven years ago) link
Incredibly, an alt-right guy like me has never fucking once looked at Breitbart.
I hate this board
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:02 (seven years ago) link
Morbs do you notice how Obama frames this point
are you familiar with the notion, in rhetoric, that the first point you make has precedence, so if you say "there were immigrants from Africa! also they didn't choose to come here" it's different from saying "there were people who were brought here involuntarily, but they can also be thought of as immigrants"
do you dig that from almost every reasonable perspective Obama's line & Carson's are only vaguely on the same page
― though the tempest rages, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:03 (seven years ago) link
the only point all the lefties posting this have been seeking to make are that the words alone, lain side by side, are similar.
"in their own way were immigrants themselves" nope.
I did not ever study rhetorical notions, i was watching Sam Fuller's Shock Corridor
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:06 (seven years ago) link
oh has leftist discourse really degenerated to "some of the words are the same"
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:09 (seven years ago) link
oh Christ, where can i lay a bet that the GOP is going to rule America til The End
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:10 (seven years ago) link
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, March 8, 2017 7:06 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago)
that explains why you chose to post it on a thread called "what are barack obama's flaws?"
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:39 (seven years ago) link
one of them is HE IS A BULLSHITTERRRRRRRRRRR
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:46 (seven years ago) link
dude c'mon. baseball season is coming up. elevate yr game
― though the tempest rages, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:57 (seven years ago) link
let me just say, as he did around 12:30pm this past Jan 20, "good job"
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:01 (seven years ago) link
I hear he thinks that you're pretty mediocre yourself tbh
― The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:33 (seven years ago) link
Help me catch up everyone. Are we arguing about whether Obama is the real racist?
― Moodles, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/book-party/wp/2017/05/02/before-michelle-barack-obama-asked-another-woman-to-marry-him-then-politics-got-in-the-way/?utm_term=.e751e8b7a432
In his late 20s now and slightly older than most classmates, he had a compulsion to orate in class and summarize other people’s arguments for them. “In law school the only thing I would have voted for Obama to do would have been to shut up,” one student told Garrow.
― j., Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:06 (seven years ago) link
I guess this guy thinks he is Robert Caro because this book is 1400 pages and apparently reserves Obama's entire presidency for an epilogue.
― evol j, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:16 (seven years ago) link
He pondered, he mused, he called senators, he wrote thoughts on a yellow legal pad, teasing out the constitutional obstacles, he consulted Michelle.
And he acted.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link
it's been curious for like a year now (and nobody says shit) that 45's half-brother hosts a fuck barry 'my half-brother' soetero twitter account ~
http://nypost.com/2016/07/24/why-obamas-half-brother-says-hell-be-voting-for-donald-trump/
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:22 (seven years ago) link
it's widely rumored that that account is run by chuck johnson
― goole, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link
ok idk about 'widely' but i've seen that come up a bunch
― goole, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link
cJmalik shouldn't have sold out to CJ :(
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link
He's 44's half-brother.
― pplains, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 21:20 (seven years ago) link
abraham lincoln asked a woman to marry him before mary todd lincoln but then he found out she was a fattie and dumped her
true story
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 21:55 (seven years ago) link
he's 45's half-brother more than he is 44's, considering the shit he talks
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 00:12 (seven years ago) link
"Jager, who in “Dreams From My Father” was virtually written out, compressed into a single character along with two prior Obama girlfriends"
"Polly Perkins is a composite, like New York Magazine does"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1udbolCQAERMNn.png
― salthigh, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 15:38 (seven years ago) link
After today's WaPo story, I expect his fealty to bipartisanship and the noble motives of his enemies will be his most damning flaw. And it proved dangerous.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 June 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link
he got played
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 June 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, June 23, 2017 11:00 AM (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you know his moderation is really an admirable quality, though its effects on policy were mostly mixed. with time i appreciate his foreign policy approach more and more -- especially as it's become more clear that clinton was behind many of the missteps -- but domestically yes, it got him played
― k3vin k., Saturday, 24 June 2017 02:29 (six years ago) link
it doesn't matter; this is what this country deserves
― mookieproof, Saturday, 24 June 2017 02:38 (six years ago) link
"It got him played" suggests he was a passive actor.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 June 2017 02:44 (six years ago) link
i don't think this is right, though. the problem was they expected clinton to win like everyone else. avoiding a stink from trump about the rigged election was prudent on that basis. if they had realistically expected trump to win, the calculus on giving him fodder would have been different.
― j., Saturday, 24 June 2017 02:46 (six years ago) link
In some ways it's comforting to know that everyone underestimated the collective stupidity of US voters, all the way to the top, and in other ways it's very frightening
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 24 June 2017 03:02 (six years ago) link
oh no, barack obama failed to anticipate the nation electing a charlatan television reality show host
― mookieproof, Saturday, 24 June 2017 03:16 (six years ago) link
I still don't understand that thinking, but it doesn't matter -- too late.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 June 2017 03:17 (six years ago) link
especially as it's become more clear that clinton was behind many of the missteps
― k3vin k., 24. juni 2017 04:29 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This is hardly true, and a fair bit of a cop out. The driving force behind Libya was France, for instance.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 24 June 2017 03:58 (six years ago) link
clinton was responsible for making foreign policy decisions for the u.s., not france
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 24 June 2017 04:59 (six years ago) link
No, Obama was the commander in chief.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 24 June 2017 09:38 (six years ago) link
In some ways it's comforting to know that everyone underestimated the collective stupidity of US voters, all the way to the top, the electoral college, and in other ways it's very frightening
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 24 June 2017 12:22 (six years ago) link
Also Fred B otmAnd Alfred otm with the revive Obama needed more deontology, slightly less utilitarianism
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 24 June 2017 12:24 (six years ago) link
He was weak on foreign policy. Which really isn't the worst thing to be, in practice the alternative has been bluster and stupidity. But even if he led Hillary talk him into stupid decisions - which really wasn't what happened... - that's him being weak. He led France lead the US into Libya, with bad consequences, and he led Russia lead the US out of Syria, with pretty bad consequences as well. He was 'deliberative and careful', if you want to describe it in a positive way, but that led others to take the lead, and it's as bad an outcome as can be that Russia then decided to hack the US election, and he didn't know what to do...
― Frederik B, Saturday, 24 June 2017 12:43 (six years ago) link
But, I mean, he is the US president with the best foreign policy this millenium. By far... Foreign policy is complicated.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 24 June 2017 12:44 (six years ago) link
Obama's foreign policy was fine. Our presidents are elected by 200 million provincial townspeople who can't find where Fred B lives on a map so I'm very happy whenever we get one who doesn't start two wars he can't fucking finish.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 24 June 2017 12:46 (six years ago) link
xp FB otm
(Zing crashed as I posted that fwiw)
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 24 June 2017 12:47 (six years ago) link
yeah he would probably have the shortest sentence in The Hague of recent presidents
maybe 30 years
I'm very happy whenever we get one who doesn't start two wars he can't fucking finish.
ah, FINISHING them is the key
not finishing the ones you inherited, less important
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 24 June 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link
Fuck you, you predictable shit. You're from the "America shouldn't have any foreign policy" wing of the left, we all fucking know
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 24 June 2017 13:01 (six years ago) link