Lorde - Melodrama (2017)

The backing vocals on the chorus sound so much like Niki & The Dove.

the last minute is the best part

Pretty good song. Dull lyrics but the delivery's convincing. Suspenseful verses building up to a big, booming chorus, the sound of something exciting happening RIGHT NOW.

Kate Bush comparisons seem criminal.

predictable but decent I guess

'She thinks she loves the beach you're such a damn liar' ✓

I like this a lot, and think it's full of energy. She uses three or four different sounding vocals in this and I think it really works. Booming chorus.

'She thinks you* love the beach etc'

I want to like this but it just makes me want to listen to Miike Snow instead. Silvia specifically.

the last minute is the best part

OTM, the detuned synth lead steals the whole song

terrible single on first listen, no coherence between verse and bridge

her voice is not great on this, sounds like she's stretching for those low notes, no idea why they wouldn't just have transposed it, I'm certain she'll be far off key live (not bcz she's not a good singer but bcz the song is out of her register)

I like this.

literally can't believe you're all handing out these props to that My First Chord Sequence chorus

are we really only demanding this of our pop

(the synth line at the end is decent I guess)

shut up

I love it when LJ starts talking about chord sequences and composition like he knows what he's talking about.

This does feel like it was written for the opening ceremony of a major sporting tournament in a city with no clear identity though.

yeah, it doesn't seem very... lordey to me

feels like a belting singer would have served the material better

i don't dislike this but it sounds pretty generic for someone considered an Event Artist (the reasons for which are beyond me)

feels like a belting singer would have served the material better

― niels, Friday, March 3, 2017 9:45 AM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my guy

1st person relationship songs

aka 95% of pop music in 2017

Or indeed, most pop music ever.

we need more of this https://youtu.be/8NO8h_uTkdU

the chorus is the weak part to me but the childish backing vox still end up stuck in my head so *shrug*

i agree that it sounds like it would be better for someone else's voice

I wonder what this would sound like if Selena Gomez sang it

better I think, Gomez has that plasticky generic voice that's perfect for basic pop whereas Lorde sounds like she's trying to impart profundity to everything she sings, which imo her material doesn't justify

Gomez's robotic intonation of luv-u-like-a-luv-song-bébé >>>>>>> any moment on this

One thing I think Lorde is very good at selling (both here and in the other songs of hers that I like) is youthful melodrama; the no-stakes parameters of the lyrics are being delivered as if she firmly believes they are the most important things ever uttered, which is about as perfect an encapsulation of teenage emotion as I can imagine. Obv whether that type of thing appeals to you or not is another matter entirely.

Distant xpost, but first thing I thought was Kate Bush "Big Sky." Second was Sia's "Cheap Thrills."

Anyway. Good first single.

I'll be hearing this 'ever I go, especially the lightup floor and the bedaroom

will never not be weird to me to witness grown-ass people losing their shit over the "perfect encapsulation of teenage emotion" but w/e

DJP otm

will never not be weird to me to witness grown-ass people losing their shit over the "perfect encapsulation of teenage emotion" but w/e

― Wimmels, Friday, March 3, 2017

you're right, we shouldn't read or listen to product by people under 21.

One thing I think Lorde is very good at selling (both here and in the other songs of hers that I like) is youthful melodrama; the no-stakes parameters of the lyrics are being delivered as if she firmly believes they are the most important things ever uttered, which is about as perfect an encapsulation of teenage emotion as I can imagine. Obv whether that type of thing appeals to you or not is another matter entirely.

― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Friday, March 3, 2017 6:46 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hmm I've never really got this from her; earnestness I guess, drama no

you're right, we shouldn't read or listen to product by people under 21.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, March 3, 2017 2:00 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're right because "teenage emotion" is all people under 21 across genres ever write about

I'm not sure what distinguishes teenage emotion from adult emotion except that adults are sillier about it.

what is meant by "teenage emotion" was defined in the post, and feeling that for 4 minutes while an adult seems obviously attractive

The post was also talking about how a now 20yo's songs come across, not their subject matter, so I don't really think the attempted "teenage emotion is all young ppl write about" dig actually makes any sense.

I experience teenage emotion whenever I get a new pimple.

I also railed against crushingly boilerplate melodies as a teenager

a boilerplate, crushing that teen

you should enjoy it when boilerplate melodies are given new life.

we are running out of melodies

suits the songs narrative well tbh

Sorry I'm not getting this song... for me the appeal of her first album was how stripped down and homemade it sounded. This one sounds... I don't know... more commercial? Which is ironic because I doubt this one will make it anywhere as big as Royals. It sounds more generic, more like something you hear on the radio everydau. Way too snappy for how I wanted her to sound. Maybe the full album changes my mind but so far I'm not liking this at all.

This is great imo

---I also railed against crushingly boilerplate melodies as a teenager

Having the same opinions at 30 that you had in yr teens isn't a good thing

(There should be a "necessarily" in there but I was trying hard to not just say "Grow up", so)

i have heard this song twice and really couldn't be more satisfied. can't wait for this album.

Lorde sounds like she's trying to impart profundity to everything she sings, which imo her material doesn't justify

otm

Imago I don't like this song very much and agree it's pretty generic (except the vocals that people are hating on, which are the thing that gives it a bit of personality). But I'm going to guess that you have virtually no formal music training and minimal understanding of music theory because it's pretty insulting that you keep defaulting to phrases like "boilerplate melodies" and "my first chord progression", the way you keep reaching for this sort of pseudo-objectivity to justify yr moral high ground whenever your "actually I really love pop music and all its untapped potential" mask slips. You like lots of artists with boilerplate melodies and the rest of the stuff you rep for, even the good stuff, isn't exactly Mozart.

ok well, to be more precise in my criticisms, the pre-chorus melody being the same as the chorus melody, and this melody taking up more than half the song, is deeply cloying to me in a way that perhaps my lack of formal music training can't fully articulate, especially as it's such a simple and obvious melody that we've all heard a zillion times before

someone like carly rae jepsen or rihanna usually avoids being cloying in this manner despite also being Pop as anything. i wish i had the musicological chops to explain why

Pandemic pop has really sucked.

my daughter reckons it's a fake-out and she's going to drop something deep and dark soon

glad the kids are keeping the secret second album conspiracies going

Even if it’s ironic, going after instagramming goopers seems lazy. The world is a target-rich environment for satire and disdain, many of whom are way worse than hot girls.

Yeah, she's satirizing something that really doesn't need satirizing, and doing it in a way that feels both heavy-handed and inadequate (she says it's an indictment of white people co-opting indigenous traditions, but the song barely touches on that.) I feel like this is Lorde's "57 Channels and Nothin' On." Like, oh no, I'm a rich person living in a bubble and I can't think of anything to write about, so here, let me "satirize" a bunch of tired pop culture shit that everyone already knows is dumb.

Also I keep getting stuck on the fact that mood rings are children's toys; is there some expensive Goop version of a mood ring that I don't know about?

What's confusing is that "Mood Ring" was clearly satirical, but the earlier two songs (which had the same sound/vibe/theme) didn't seem to be? Idk - I haven't listened to the rest of the album and probably won't.

there was an element of it to "solar power", just not as directly

oh no, I'm a rich person living in a bubble and I can't think of anything to write about

This is half of pop music now.

that's not really anything new either

there was an element of it to "solar power", just not as directly

― ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 23:58 (yesterday) link

idk she intro’d it with… ‘There’s someone I want you to meet.
Her feet are bare at all times. She’s sexy, playful, feral, and free. She’s a modern girl in a deadstock bikini, in touch with her past and her future, vibrating at the highest level when summer comes around. Her skin is glowing, her lovers are many. I’m completely obsessed with her, and soon you will be too.
‘

yeah that just goes to show how muddled it is lol

the stuff that read to me that way in "solar power" was "i'm kinda like a prettier jesus" and the whole video

I thought the “prettier Jesus” thing was her paying tribute to a fan meme

just made my own Solar Power sequence:

Leader of a New Regime
The Path
Solar Power
Secrets from a Girl (Who's Seen It All)
California
Mood Ring
Fallen Fruit
Dominoes
Big Star
Stoned at the Nail Salon
The Man With The Axe
Oceanic Feeling

actually, I'd probably make "Stoned" a hidden track at the end of "Oceanic Feeling"

New EP in... maori !

Indeed, and this article about it is a must read

https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/09-09-2021/lorde-interview-maori-lyrics-solar-power/

and this one - https://www.thebigidea.nz/stories/tokenism-in-full-force-my-take-on-lordes-album

Lorde just told the crowd at the Anthem that she swam??? In the Potomac??? To get a feel for D.C???? The crowd is in SHAMBLES

— natalie escobar 🎷🐛 (@_NatalieEscobar) August 30, 2022

Possibly one of the wildest things I’ve heard of being said on a stage here.

LOL I love her pic.twitter.com/TtmpuQ2DaS

— Jimmy (@jimmyeppley) August 30, 2022

Maybe next time she wants to appreciate the local waterways, someone could take her around the Anacostia Community Boathouse.

lol

In between songs, the singer reminisced about the themes of each of her three albums, noting that Pure Heroine “was about not being a teenager,” Melodrama “was about a boy,” and Solar Power is “about the climate.”