They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

People keep raving about The Expanse, but I watched the first episode of Season 1 and it seemed awful - the worst combination of dull and pseudo-gritty. How much better does it get after that? Cause Season 1 is free with Amazon Prime, so I'll dive back in if there's a radical leap in quality from pilot to episode 2 (or even 3 or 4, if I know it's coming).

there's a whole thread about the show

Meantime: or maybe Ridley just likes blood again?

http://www.slashfilm.com/alien-covenant-set-visit-report/

While fans of that first Alien prequel will surely appreciate the scope and general weirdness of the some of the stuff we saw on set, we’re also being promised a movie that embraces its R-rating, a movie that “(orders) blood in the 40 gallon drums rather than the 5 gallon drums,” Huffam says.

And Scott is right in the muck, getting his hands dirty with the crew. Yesterday’s gore effects involved pasta and tapioca. “(Ridley) loves practical effects,” Huffam explains. “He just loves to try and do as much as possible in-camera.”

I'm more...amused by this quote:

“I have to get a cushion and hide behind it,” producer Mark Huffam says of watching footage from Alien: Covenant. “I’ve seen it being filmed and I go ohhhh….don’t look at it!”

http://youtu.be/Vc6dt0rFddA

Hmm hmm hmm:

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/ridley-scott-promises-a-return-to-alienstyle-horror-in-alien-covenant-20170222-guj8wk.html

..."Alien was special without question; it was unique really. Prometheus was a good starting block to kick off the idea that no one ever asked in the sequels."

That question is who made the chest-bursting alien and for what purpose?

"Prometheus was about who and why? This is getting closer to who designed it and for what reason."

--

While working on Alien: Covenant, he had the next instalment written so he is ready to keep advancing the saga.

"You've got to assume to a certain extent success and from that you'd better be ready," he says. "You don't want a two-year gap. So I'll be ready to go again next year."

you designed it, ridley -- you and h.r.giger

reason = to scare people

Who knew!

This is the other 'hmm' bit:

"What we did really well on Prometheus, considering that it was a ground zero idea that was starting all over again, was I discovered that people do have an appetite for the alien and what he means and his evolution – the egg, the facehugger, the chestburster as we call them.

"People still want to see it. So I return to a little bit of that but not wholeheartedly; there's a lot in here which is new as well."

Translation: we made an Alien prequel that had next to nothing to do with the movies that came before it, except for what little people liked, so we made a movie like that again, an Alien movie with an alien in it.

But not wholeheartedly.

"Oh yeah, alien. Anyway, about these big heads."

"i discovered that people do have an appetite for what the alien means" = "i want to know why ppl like the alien so much more than my very serious and philosophical exploration of [whatever garbage it is that prometheus explores])

HEY NOW

lol

the alien is less important for what it means than what it does, although maybe another half dozen films about what this horror from space means will change that

I hope the next sequel is a musical.

Alien!

mel brooks beat us to it

He showed us the way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7uAxOk67gg

I believe I'll be getting my Giger fix this year from another medium:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvBo_rKleNw

I was one of those creeps that bought all the Giger folio books after seeing Alien and DK's *Frankenchrist*. All long since gone. I don't think Giger's main objective was simply to scare, he was exorcising some deep personal disgust at being flesh, having sexuality etc.

as long as we're at it, why not make six more alien movies?

http://www.indiewire.com/2017/03/ridley-scott-six-more-alien-movies-covenant-1201791116/

Great, this can be his Avatar.

''I had always planned a prequel quadrilogy, and a sequel quadrilogy.''

Fincher at work on 8ight through Se7enteen, Jeunet to just keep remaking Amelie shot-for-shot because how can you improve on that?

can we get the UN to issue a sanction

So let's figure these six out:

Musical (Alien!)
Epic Fantasy (The Lord of the Aliens)
Rom-Com (When Harry Met The Alien)
Mumblecore (Alienated)
Oscar Bait (The English Alien)
Reflexive Winking Horror Humor (Scream 4: In Space You Can Be Heard)

Newt: An Alien Story

I'd be down with a film about Bishop learning the knife trick.

"Oops."
"Fix that programming error, would you? And clean up the blood."

Why Isn't There An Extraterrestrial Aliens Day?

But what about the knife itself, how it was forged, the adventures it's seen, we can expand into an entire spin-off franchise centered around seemingly random objects with surprisingly complex backstories, maybe the very oxygen pumped into the Nostromo is an untapped narrative wonderland.

xpost -- That'll be the one scripted by Dinesh D'Souza.

JONES! The Movie

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nwAAHHE7YwA/T4n8H_HvTiI/AAAAAAAADvM/Fmon6I7QY1c/s1600/Puss%2BKitty.jpg

You missed the one from the alien POV, where they need to defend themselves and their alien families from human interlopers. Makes you think!

I'm also polishing a pitch right now that's a Stagecoach update, with wagon-trainers making their way across America, defending themselves from attacking aliens. Also, an animated Cartoon Network kids Aliens called Alienz (don't worry, it'll have in-jokes fro parents, too!).

Also, hip-hop/sci-fi "urban" spinoff (called ATLiens, of course) reuniting Big Boi and Andre for the first time since Idlewild.

(Big Boi and Andre play aliens in Atlanta.)

would watch "jones the movie"

Why does the unstated premise of most franchise attempts seem to be 'let's see how much we can make the fans hate this thing and let's see how quickly we can do it'?

Because every sequel development starts with the cunts question "what can we do differently?"

Ageing Alien's last day on the job and he's paired with wacky Mel Gibson

c'mon every sequel development starts with "how much money can we make"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LwR6n_vULM

Xps well yeah, eg what market did we not gross well in last time? Let's please them

I look forward to the Aliens sequel that finally targets the untapped Hispanic septuagenarian and hearing impaired pre-teen demographics.

Ridley is joking of course, there will not be six films. the last two films will be split into two parts each so there will be nine films.

You missed the one from the alien POV, where they need to defend themselves and their alien families from human interlopers. Makes you think!

There is actually a really good short story written from the point of view of the creature in The Thing!

Time is ripe for an adaptation of this: http://alienlovespredator.com/

The Thing became an even better movie once I realized that the eponymous Thing was the actual protagonist.

I harbor no expectations of anything half that interesting coming from the Alien franchise.

Thing/Alien crossover where a crew of relatabley grouchy, working-class xenomorphs grow paranoid wondering which of them has been impregnated by a horrifying alien monster.

horrifying alien monster is a human baby

second and third films in this series are critically panned but financially successful rewrites of the "three men and a baby" ouevre

"Look Who's Talking!" except the baby is a xenomorph.