pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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MarkoP, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link

oh weird lol

flopson, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 20:13 (seven years ago) link

i guess i just see less of the '14 era Pitch-style takes floating around

flopson, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 20:14 (seven years ago) link

if you want to get to the pitch from the home page, just remember what you're ultimately looking for. the latest. the latest information about music. luckily there's a link called The Latest and it leads directly to another link to the pitch

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 20:21 (seven years ago) link

oof, maybe not the greatest idea to have a dude write the column about whether it's OK for a female musician who's been sexually harassed to punch her harasser. also pretty gross to frame the journalistic recounting of the incident in the teaser as "Last week, Princess Nokia hit a man in the crowd who asked to see her tits." Just because that's the language the guy allegedly used doesn't mean you have to retell it exactly that way.

evol j, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link

A rare metal album getting Best New Music that isn't Pallbearer, Baroness or Deafheaven.

Yeah this was cool and unexpected, I was expecting it maybe for Pissed Jeans but not this

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link

I don't get why this got BNM why Vektor didn't? Are they more known or something?

I mean, I listened to it and it seemed good, but Vektor seemed a lot more p4k-y.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 20:41 (seven years ago) link

I suspect that the Power Trip album will be more accessible to folks who aren't really conversant with the current state of the genre. Terminal Redux is a massive art-prog opus, but engagement with it requires time, strong ears, and a willingness to deal with music that defines its own terms. Nightmare Logic, OTOH, sounds and functions "like metal" (circa 1985, anyway). Catchy chugging, shout-along choruses, perfect for getting drunk and making hair animals.

“Remember,” he says, “Noddy Holder is a gangster.” (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:36 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, probably. I'd just have thought that art-prog opus was more p4k than metal 1985. But oh well, it seems Vektor got a lot of attention anyway.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:42 (seven years ago) link

that's a pretty disingenuous summary of what that article is about

na (NA), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 22:44 (seven years ago) link

Not analyzing pop to death can ensure that your favorite songs don’t fall apart, as some inevitably do when placed under the magnifying glass... Trying to figure out what exactly that is probably won’t make you enjoy a pop song more. In fact, it might make you enjoy it a little less. It’s called the secret sauce for a reason.

She sounds like a five-year-old at Disneyland who just saw Minnie Mouse pull her head off and light a cigarette.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 22:47 (seven years ago) link

lmao, yes, website that once posted a 3,000 word thinkpiece on Soulja Boy, maybe it is WE who are analyzing the songs too closely

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 22:49 (seven years ago) link

still they only like the songs a little less

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 22:49 (seven years ago) link

fucked up that they buried the new Xiu Xiu record at the bottom of the reviews today and gave it a 6.4

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 22:52 (seven years ago) link

agreed, it deserves better. the review seems to acknowledge that it's a really good Xiu Xiu album and then knocks it on a lot of weird little things.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 22:56 (seven years ago) link

the actual Max Martin interview is way more interesting than the pfork article:
http://storytelling.di.se/max-martin-english/

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 23:00 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, the interview is fantastic.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 23:14 (seven years ago) link

heres the thing with martin and his ilk

he may have 58 billboard top 10 hits, only more than mccartney and lennon

but, given various definitions of 'interesting', its easy to sound interesting in a world of generic pop songs

none of his songs are interesting from a harmony point of view eg

and they barely break away from standard compositions, which is something popular songs have been doing since the 60s (parts were glued together back in the day, with all parts of the song being moving parts)

hes just good at surrounding himself with the next big pop talent, which is a skill in itself, sure

that pdork writer is not too far off. once you break down the songs to only their skeleton/raw bones, theres just a structure that is indistinguishable from other pop tracks

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 23:18 (seven years ago) link

ie

martin knows what sells and good on him

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 23:23 (seven years ago) link

generic pop songs meaning axis of awesome dudes' 4 chords:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOlDewpCfZQ

or

https://qz.com/767812/millennial-whoop/

that 'perfect pop song' that martin wants to hear again and again is just a type of succession of notes that we love to hear on repeat, like some type of drug:

https://aeon.co/essays/why-repetition-can-turn-almost-anything-into-music

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 23:31 (seven years ago) link

that "millennial whoop" piece is terrible and worse than almost anything in this thread

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 2 March 2017 02:09 (seven years ago) link

BOOMER: here is a participation trophy
MILLENNIAL: *whoops from fifth note to scale to third and back*

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 2 March 2017 02:24 (seven years ago) link

whoop there it is

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 2 March 2017 04:46 (seven years ago) link

katherine otm

maura, Thursday, 2 March 2017 10:15 (seven years ago) link

Explore Elliott Smith’s Iconic Either/Or in 5 Minutes

Explore Bob Dylan's Blood on the Tracks in 4 Minutes

noticing a trend here.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 3 March 2017 00:25 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB2di69FmhE&t=61s

Number None, Friday, 3 March 2017 00:41 (seven years ago) link

https://theawl.com/internet-video-is-lies-34ee5b3a4ccb

maura, Friday, 3 March 2017 00:57 (seven years ago) link

the beguiling Explore John Cage's 4"33 in 4"36

Karl Malone, Friday, 3 March 2017 02:29 (seven years ago) link

a new low:

Most crucially, The Sophtware Slump countered the pre-millennial tension of trip-hop, Timbaland, and Radiohead with Y2k’s definitive ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ album

the future of music criticism: listicles and emojis

I struggle to understand how this Ian Cohen guy continues to get work

Wimmels, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 13:02 (seven years ago) link

You left out half the sentence, and it's a pretty good description all in all.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 13:10 (seven years ago) link

All in all, this is as good a two-sentence band summary as can be hoped for, imo:

Grandaddy are still a state-of-the-art 2000 band, the sum of slack-motherfucker indie rock, the mid-fi experimentalism of Sparklehorse, and just enough of Mercury Rev and Flaming Lips’ late-’90s prog sweep. Most crucially, The Sophtware Slump countered the pre-millennial tension of trip-hop, Timbaland, and Radiohead with Y2k’s definitive ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ album, speaking to people who came of age during the tech boom and felt like the 21st century could only promise shinier distractions from the same old pervasive suburban boredom.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 13:11 (seven years ago) link

Pitchfork may be dumb, but this new feature 'Name Dropping' is brilliant. Good idea, good editing, and Michael Bolton is a good sport:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqQYUjAA8kI

ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 13:20 (seven years ago) link

Yes, I enjoyed that. Michael Bolton seems like a pretty likeable guy.

Wimmels, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 13:29 (seven years ago) link

Only two reviews today?

neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 14:24 (seven years ago) link

also that's not an emoji

na (NA), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 15:00 (seven years ago) link

haha, that bolton thing has legit funny moments

niels, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link

"Pitchfork to Review Key Albums From the Notorious B.I.G." 👏👏👏

spastic heritage, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:34 (seven years ago) link

Tomorrow, Pitchfork will commemorate the 20th anniversary of his death by reviewing four key albums in his catalog.

oh so just the big four then?

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:40 (seven years ago) link

they all suck

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:41 (seven years ago) link

yeah i noticed the only two reviews

flappy bird, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:46 (seven years ago) link

there's so much good new music coming out i don't get why they couldn't have a full slate every day.

unless of course preparing reviews for two biggie albums and two sorta-biggie albums was too much to handle

neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:48 (seven years ago) link

damn that's crazy, only 2 albums per day? end of an era

flopson, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:54 (seven years ago) link

they all suck

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, March 8, 2017 1:41 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

BOO YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!! baby BAY-beh

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link

as annoying as many elements of pitchfork dot com have gotten over the years, albums reviews are still top notch

flopson, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link

this is the first day i've noticed only two reviews, usually it's four reviews per day

neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:57 (seven years ago) link

gotta make room for booze ads and links to non-music news!

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link

wait shakey doesnt like biggy?

Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:17 (seven years ago) link

west coast guy

k3vin k., Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link

that's... not an excuse

flopson, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link


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