well, the one in Prometheus was obsessed with Laurence Olivier, so it could have been something he decided to affect
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:22 (seven years ago) link
this one's secretly obsessed with gg allin
― I am Socutus of Butt. Resistance is futile. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link
the one in Prometheus was obsessed with Laurence Olivier
Peter O'Toole, surely.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:29 (seven years ago) link
Laurence of Arabia tbf
― I am Socutus of Butt. Resistance is futile. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link
brain fart, sorry guys
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:32 (seven years ago) link
I guess everyone knows the movie and actor I get confused now and I don't need to post to that thread.
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:33 (seven years ago) link
For the next movie, Fassbender will be asked to be obsessed with Jason Statham.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:37 (seven years ago) link
Steve Jobs
― nashwan, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:38 (seven years ago) link
boo to Jobs, yay to Statham
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:40 (seven years ago) link
we get scenes of him shadowboxing along to Statham classics
in the climax of the film, he punches an alien in the head
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:41 (seven years ago) link
alien: covanent 2: turtles in time will feature danny mcbride teaming up with fassbender's robot, who is obsessed with pink flamingos star divine, to beat the alien menace forever by proving they've been committing tax fraud for hundreds of years
― I am Socutus of Butt. Resistance is futile. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:50 (seven years ago) link
hmm
― I am Socutus of Butt. Resistance is futile. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:51 (seven years ago) link
Alien Covenant 3, Alien V Predator 3: Alien 7
― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 16:39 (seven years ago) link
io9 with a trailer breakdown:
http://io9.gizmodo.com/everything-the-covenant-trailer-reveals-about-the-lates-1792841865
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 16:44 (seven years ago) link
I admit I didn't catch this shot clearly enough on first viewing:
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--XKD5Ls3y--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/kljzptg2kegwccg19q87.png
Per io9:
Remember how Prometheus started with a flashback to the Engineers/Pilots (the big, bald, white aliens—they’re called both, with “Engineers” being prominent in Prometheus)? This, with the monumental figures we’ve seen them make before, seems to be another one of those.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 16:59 (seven years ago) link
God bless any of yis who saw Prometheus and can still manage to pretend convince yourselves that this is going to either convincingly link to alien or be worth catching on its own standalone merit.
Chiding the rest of us seems a bit strong tho.
― The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:06 (seven years ago) link
xp oh man if that's half as good as the rave scene in the second Matrix movie . . .
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link
Alien dancers are truly the most supple.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link
I am simple in this regard: I mostly just want to see James Franco's character die bloodily.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link
You always say that tho
― The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:23 (seven years ago) link
I fail to see the problem in James Franco's character dying bloodily in every film ever made.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link
am i the only one who thought the CGI alien looked really bad?
― 龜, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:40 (seven years ago) link
I think so too, but I can't separate that completely with my vague sense of emptiness and disappointment that seeing one of these aliens onscreen no longer produces any kind of thrill or scare in me. I don't want it to be that way but it is. These used to be genuine nightmare-producing horrors for me, from around the time I first saw Aliens, and unfortunately that's been worn away. Having them flipping and flailing around, CG-style, in broad daylight, does not help, of course. And the tail creeping in on the shower scene still offers a little of the old excitement. But I do increasingly feel like, as much as I enjoy Resurrection as a fun, disposable (tho stylish) 90s popcorn movie, it would have been way better in every way if the series had taken its final curtain with the third movie.
― tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:46 (seven years ago) link
er, separate that completely from, etc.
― tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:47 (seven years ago) link
Part of me has to wonder, especially given Scott's vociferousness a couple of years back about how he didn't want to deal with 'dragons' anymore, if there's some sort of bait/switch going on here in terms of the actual focus. Because I agree with Doctor Casino heavily here on the sheer overfamiliarity and its resultant impact or lack thereof. I'm curious about this film but not excited about it.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:53 (seven years ago) link
[Prometheus 2 is] fresh” and “getting away from gods and dragons and shit. If I see one more dragon I’m going to shoot myself. Stop the dragons.” Rather than a dragon, Scott describes his original Alien as “the definitive dragon and he’s a motherfucker. The alien’s real which is why it’s probably one of the scariest monsters in film history,” Scott says. “So with Prometheus 2 what I’m trying to do is reintroduce a fresher form of alien in the third act.”
Rather than a dragon, Scott describes his original Alien as “the definitive dragon and he’s a motherfucker. The alien’s real which is why it’s probably one of the scariest monsters in film history,” Scott says. “So with Prometheus 2 what I’m trying to do is reintroduce a fresher form of alien in the third act.”
what if...the alien is us
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 18:07 (seven years ago) link
he's talking total shite though
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link
James Franco, alien.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link
Everything in that trailer takes 15 minutes of screen time and the rest is the Engineers holding Six Sigma workshops to design a new monster.
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link
Alien: Dilbert
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link
Quote just sounds like he's complaining about swords n sorcery films, idk. If only he'd been put in charge of Dragonheart, they might have really had something...
― tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link
the hanging-off-something-in-space-by-a-rope trope is really starting to get boring. i mean it was in at least 2 Avengers movies, also in the 2nd Captain America, probably perfected in the first of the new Star Trek movies.. Rogue One too maybe? it's been done to absolute death.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 18:32 (seven years ago) link
the windswept somewhat lush desolation of the planet reminds me a bit of the mikkelsen homestead in Rogue One, minus the black sand beaches.
i'm kinda optimistic about this film, i like the visual ambition at least and have always enjoyed Scott's efforts to make sci-fi films that at least look good. i think his visual sense works better in this genre than in swordplay epics (as much as I did really really like Kingdom of Heaven.)
― nomar, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 18:42 (seven years ago) link
What if... Matt Damon planted all the wheat?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link
makes u think
― I am Socutus of Butt. Resistance is futile. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 19:14 (seven years ago) link
https://anotherkindofgrass.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/gladiator-walking-thru-elysium-500-by-191.gif
ultimate shared universe theory: i think they ended up in the wheat field from Gladiator
― nomar, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 19:18 (seven years ago) link
or Summerisle
― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 19:22 (seven years ago) link
if there's some sort of bait/switch going on here in terms of the actual focus
this certainly crossed my mind too Ned
― PressAnarchyToContinue (Ste), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 19:46 (seven years ago) link
rather than a dragon it's the definitive dragon
― wins, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:05 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP75aZvWVdw
idk i guess i can see why ridley scott would turn down this pitch
― tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:41 (seven years ago) link
i think they ended up in the wheat field from Gladiator
or the one in this trailer for COMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FwiuJLwAIg
― nashwan, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 23:26 (seven years ago) link
in space, if you build it they will come
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 23:39 (seven years ago) link
that grass waving in water scene from Tarkovsky's Solaris has a lot to answer for
― mh 😏, Thursday, 2 March 2017 00:02 (seven years ago) link
Building on what dr casino says, about the aliens inevitably becoming less frightening as time goes by, this movie is prob going to stand or fall on how good the human actors are, and I can't guess that from the trailer. The trailer obvs won't show the mundane 'oil rig crew' moments (if there are any, hope there are) and doesn't tell us anything about the pacing between the scary moments (which I'm not expecting to be scary tbh).
Or I dunno - they don't have to be gnarly and cynical I suppose. If they're meant to be idealistic colonists and they actually put that across using acting, that could work.
I like the photography and design. I wd probably watch a tv show set in the Alien world but without any aliens, just people grumbling about in Alien-style sets unable to find the right screwdriver.
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 2 March 2017 00:16 (seven years ago) link
You should check out The Expanse!
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 2 March 2017 00:25 (seven years ago) link
I've been meaning to, is it good?
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 2 March 2017 00:42 (seven years ago) link
It comes as close as any TV show ever has to what you just described.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 2 March 2017 00:43 (seven years ago) link
Yeah The Expanse is some good shit
Anyway, I'm gonna post this w/o comment. Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/VbGQP2Wy6qA
― Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Thursday, 2 March 2017 01:00 (seven years ago) link
the expanse has some brief periods of laying out the political landscape that drag a little, but the strength is that the plot is constantly twisting. there aren't any experts or unstoppable heroes in the main cast -- just people who happened to be there when shit went down and they're using their strengths to do what it takes
― mh 😏, Thursday, 2 March 2017 02:27 (seven years ago) link