Yeah, every fight scene in BB was a complete and utter shambles. The film was overlong and laughably ponderous. It looked great though, so that's alright.
― dm, Wednesday, 22 June 2005 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― CUT MY LIFE INTO PIZZAS ^_^ (Adrian Langston), Thursday, 23 June 2005 02:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L, Thursday, 23 June 2005 03:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:04 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, I think maybe he said "our family" built the monorails, not neccesarily him personally.
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They played the "Batman's a scientist" Simpsons clip from the monorail episode during the previews at the Alamo drafthouse. I could have kissed someone.
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L, Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 23 June 2005 05:16 (eighteen years ago) link
And hey, y'know what, the Adam West Batman is FUN. And also, when I was like 5, watching it for the first time (in reruns, I'm not 45 years old!), I had no idea it was supposed to be funny. At five, that stuff is pretty grim.
― Huk-L, Thursday, 23 June 2005 13:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link
I admit that I couldn't stifle laughter when Neeson mentioned Constantinople as an aside.
― Eric H: not a troll, with one exception (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L, Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L, Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L, Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link
He then decides out of the blue to become Batman, but instead of Alfred making him his costume and weapons, he hires Samuel L. Jackson to do it for him.
Batman himself doesn't have the stocky, square-jawed appearance that we all recognize, but is played by the thin guy from Memento.
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L, Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L, Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link
This makes 20% doubt seem a bit excessive.
― M Annoyman (Ferg), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L, Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L, Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
a few thoughts:
the worst thing about c. bale is his mouth. it ruins all his acting. the unfortunate thing about batman is that the mouth is all you see, too. still, I didn't mind him and thought he was OK, partly because he seemed quite lacking, in personality, perhaps--better than OTT.
wouldn't the microwave vaporisor thing have used its microwaves to vaporise the water in people, too?
couple of silly things that were vital to the story's progress:
when batman first met the scarecrow and didn't catch him because the scarecrow totally set batman on fire and batman had to jump out of a window--how come he got totally set on fire, as if he had been soaking in petrol?
and the bit when he went down amongst the gas-affected people, after he had lost his grapple gun in a fight with shadow guys, and was jumped upon by the strangely curious, supposedly scared masses and managed to find his gun just lying on the ground
I didn't like the scarecrow guy's mouth, either, and am not wild about katie holmes'
I don't like morgan freeman, as a rule, but he was OK
quite liked gary oldman, despite the necessary, stupid lines ("I gotta get me one of those" re: batmobile)
the v. funny bit where the bum he'd given his coat to, seven years earlier, turned up at the drugs thing where he put tom wilkinson on the spotlight and b.man says "nice coat" and the bum says "thanks"
liam neeson, I dislike, too
nice to see freddie starr and tim booth with bit-parts, though, and ken barlow's son as bruce wayne's dad
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 23 June 2005 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 24 June 2005 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Who was Booth again? (Also, RJG, did yer get my mail?)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 June 2005 00:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L, Friday, 24 June 2005 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link
(I did, ned, and I will reply, soon!)
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 24 June 2005 01:03 (eighteen years ago) link
Booth was in a band called James, they had a big hit in 1990 with "Been Caught Stealing
I love you.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 June 2005 01:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Friday, 24 June 2005 01:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 June 2005 01:11 (eighteen years ago) link
He threw gas all over Batman while he was freaking out.
I think I share Ally's amazing mutant ability to pay attention to movies.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:20 (eighteen years ago) link
they have to film them all close-in and shakey, so that it doesn't look like the stationary-camera-fifteen-feet-away, twelve-guys-in-frame TV-batman fights that look silly, with two guys, standing to the side, waiting for their pals to get beat up, before they start fighting, I guess
but, yeah, you know what's happening: batman is having a fight etc, but it is difficult to tell what it looks like
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 24 June 2005 09:31 (eighteen years ago) link
I thought it was fucking outstanding, great fun (all you people complaining about it being po-faced - there are ninjas and a tank and a man dressed as a bat and Michael Caine making one-liners, for heaven's sake; Bruce Wayne doens't bring the funny because he's a fucked-up repressed-homosexual [why is his mum not mentioned at all? because he's in love with his dad, stethescope-as-penis, innit] borderline-sociopathic orphan with identity issues), scary (the fights were confusing because this is not Rocky, it is Alien, you're not meant to know what's going on anymore than the thugs are - plus Scarecrow, fucking hell, and Batman when he turns all fucking nasty black-metal-dripping-gore-from-his-mouth in Cilian's mind).
Casting was spot-on - Bale plays confused, empty, brooding, driven lunatics very well, and I admire his masochistic body-morphing ultimate-method-actor stance, though fear he will soon be dead if he carries on. Cillian Murphy gets better and better everytime I see him in something - get hold of Disco Pigs; he may be pretty but he's one scary fucker. Katie Holmes was functional but I'm glad her relationship with Thumb Cruise has got her dropped for the next one. Crispin Glover as The Joker would be perfect, please God let it happen. Oldman seemed to me to be onscreen too little to tell whether he was any good, which means he was fucking excellent because you don't notice Gary Oldman at all. Morgan Freeman just being Morgan Freeman, which is always watchable. Rutger didn't seem like Rutger, Tom Wilkinson was good but looks English, which no accent can disguise. Caine just great, and I don't reckon to like him.
Loved the "no titles" thing. Also liked that there wasn't a big musical theme / motif. Not sure how I felt about the parent-death thing. Liked that they'd gone to the opera to see that Strauss thing about a bat. Thought the dialogue with Alfred about becoming a bat and abstarction etcetera was great. Lots of other things buzzing but want to see it again and most things have probably been said already and better. Didn't look at my watch once.
Dan Perry and Ally otm throughout this thread, btw.
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 24 June 2005 11:18 (eighteen years ago) link
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― miccio (miccio), Friday, 24 June 2005 12:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 24 June 2005 12:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― ra's al latebloomer: not a dolphin lover, honest (latebloomer), Friday, 24 June 2005 12:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 24 June 2005 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Friday, 24 June 2005 12:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 24 June 2005 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link