also yeah, "Goodnight Lovers" is also great
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 20:48 (seven years ago) link
Completely missed we have tour dates now:
http://depechemode.com/article/depeche-mode-announce-north-american-leg-of-the-global-spirit-tour
Fan presales start on the 6th.
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Depeche Mode Global Spirit Tour - Fall 2017 North American Tour
August 23 Salt Lake City, UT USANA AmphitheatreAugust 25 Denver, CO Pepsi CenterAugust 27 Detroit, MI DTE Energy Music TheatreAugust 30 Chicago, IL Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre
September 1 Uncasville, CT Mohegan Sun ArenaSeptember 3 Toronto, ON Air Canada CentreSeptember 5 Montreal, QC Centre BellSeptember 7 Washington, DC Verizon CenterSeptember 9 New York, NY Madison Square GardenSeptember 11 New York, NY Madison Square GardenSeptember 13 Tampa, FL MIDFLORIDA Credit Union AmphitheatreSeptember 15 Miami, FL AmericanAirlines ArenaSeptember 18 Nashville, TN Ascend AmphitheaterSeptember 20 Austin, TX Austin360 AmphitheatreSeptember 22 Dallas, TX Starplex PavilionSeptember 24 Houston, TX Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion presented by HuntsmanSeptember 27 Phoenix, AZ AK-Chin PavilionSeptember 30 Las Vegas, NV T-Mobile Arena
October 2 Santa Barbara, CA Santa Barbara County BowlOctober 6 San Diego, CA Mattress Firm AmphitheatreOctober 8 San Jose, CA SAP CenterOctober 10 Oakland, CA Oracle ArenaOctober 12 Los Angeles, CA Hollywood BowlOctober 14 Los Angeles, CA Hollywood BowlOctober 21 Seattle, WA KeyArenaOctober 23 Portland, OR Moda CenterOctober 25 Vancouver, BC Rogers ArenaOctober 27 Edmonton, AB Rogers Place
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 00:19 (seven years ago) link
No Boston dates? They hate DJP, clearly.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 00:21 (seven years ago) link
I think they might add more? That site where you could register for the presale listed other cities, but maybe they were gauging interest
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 00:49 (seven years ago) link
I mean it's not like I expect that I could go
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 01:04 (seven years ago) link
Your kids should be the avant-noise openers.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 01:34 (seven years ago) link
never mind, I got the email offering me chicago
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 02:06 (seven years ago) link
From the Quietus review, I'm imagining one seriously fucking heavy listen, punctuated by headache-inducing bass. The concerts might be a bit of a downer though.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link
I will buy this but man does it does it sound like a drag from that review.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 16:02 (seven years ago) link
Really hoping (since I think a new album's due from them too) that Algiers are the opener over here.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:22 (seven years ago) link
I'm imagining one seriously fucking heavy listen, punctuated by headache-inducing bass.
If it's mastered as loudly as Playing the Angel then the headache'll be guaranteed, at least.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link
xp thanks for reminding me I was going to check out Algiers and never did!
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link
oh DUDE Algiers rules
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 19:03 (seven years ago) link
well I know that NOW
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 19:04 (seven years ago) link
discovered Algiers through the ILM poll, they're the shit
― nomar, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 19:06 (seven years ago) link
Anyway, got my tickets through the fan presale -- twelfth row from the stage. After years of essentially seeing them high up and away it'll be nice to finally get a close-up view.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 March 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link
are these tickets transferable in case I can't make it and want to give them to a friend?
― mh 😏, Monday, 6 March 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link
It pretty much was a fancy way to do a hyperadvanced Ticketmaster sale, and you can sell the tickets along to someone else right in their system. (Or presumably transfer it, but I'd assume they'd let you sell them to a friend for, say, a buck each or something. Never have used this feature, it appears to be fairly new.)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 March 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link
I, too, purchased tickets
― mh 😏, Monday, 6 March 2017 18:51 (seven years ago) link
Here's that Algiers remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzJ3oGRykI0
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 March 2017 21:44 (seven years ago) link
forgot about this, but did manage tickets, and not in a terrible section. they were more than I wanted to pay ($150) but still, I've for some reason never seen DM live, so may as well
― akm, Monday, 6 March 2017 23:32 (seven years ago) link
Wisdom. We're probably going to the same show -- what section did you get?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 March 2017 23:49 (seven years ago) link
oh oops, forgot about the ticket sales
― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 15:22 (seven years ago) link
also I am kind of into this Algiers remix
― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 15:23 (seven years ago) link
I wanted to like it but the original is a slog and doubling down on the goth doesn't save it
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 15:47 (seven years ago) link
Reading some of the chatter on the official FB page is...interesting. Not the band's posts, the comments from people in the direct fan presale. Basically: I bought my copy of the album in advance (as I was going to do anyway), broke social media silence a couple of times around my birthday to share the personalized link and ended up 54th in line for Oakland, in for the first group of tickets going on sale and got twelfth row seats as mentioned. So zero complaints on my end, and very little effort, though I pretty much dropped the Strobe app as soon as I secured said tickets.
But I figured given the whole gaming nature of the enterprise -- share out your own link, buy as many copies of the album as you like to improve your place, etc. -- I was thinking to myself "There are going to be a lot of crazy fans out there whose friends will be HATING them by the time this is all over." And there's plenty of gnashing and wailing of teeth going on, I half suspect from people who...don't go to big shows much or understand how the whole ticket breakdown/presale/VIP/reserved seating thing works? But also just plain crazy -- saw one comment from someone who was aiming for the number 1 spot somewhere (ended up number 3 in Portland) who said she bought...45 copies of the album. You read that right. And she said she spoke with others who bought over a hundred. What on god's green earth.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link
I hope she goes to the show wearing a suit made out of physical copies of the album
― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 17:45 (seven years ago) link
"I DID THIS FOR YOOOOOOU! DAVE! LOOK AT ME!"
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 17:51 (seven years ago) link
fwiw I was somewhere near 800th in line for Chicago, and when I loaded the page it offered me some spots in the first ten rows but I wasn't going to pay $600 for tickets. The entire center front section was $400- $600 so I decided I was fine with the second section back.
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link
"Wisdom. We're probably going to the same show -- what section did you get?
― Ned Raggett, "
110!
― akm, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link
I guess what I'm getting at is that I bought one copy and could have had four seats in the first ten rows pretty easily!
xpost -- same side as us, then! We're section A.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link
I have to assume the hyperpurchasers and the like were after the 'meet the band' option. (Which, if they got, say, spot number 2 would probably...hurt.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link
dare I ask how much the row 4 tickets were in LA?
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 19:14 (seven years ago) link
this is Depeche Mode we're talking about here? wow
― frogbs, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 19:36 (seven years ago) link
Yep. The electronic Rolling Stones.
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 19:45 (seven years ago) link
In terms of career, DM's Rolling Stones equivalent right now is halfway between Bridges to Babylon and A Bigger Bang.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 19:49 (seven years ago) link
I mean, okay, the hardcore obsessives are always going to try to go the extra mile with an intensity and passion that makes 'em look like they're just a tad unhinged, and I understand that this affects various bands both big and small but... it just feels to me that the music they've been making in recent years hasn't quite warranted it.
If this was off the back of Violator or Songs... I wouldn't have batted an eyelid, but... Playing The Angel is 12 years old at this point. Ultra is fucking 20!
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 19:51 (seven years ago) link
Think it's less the album, more the fact that they can still kill live. (I mean, apply that argument across the board for a LOT of acts, obv.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link
I guess what I'm trying to say, is that it really does feel to me that Depeche at this stage are living off the brand name now, rather than on the strength of new material - as the Stones did before 'em. They don't really need to release new material now. They can still cut it live, of course, but I'd be very surprised if they played anything from Delta Machine or Sounds of the Universe on this tour. Of the Ben Hillier era, pretty much only 'Precious' is guaranteed, but expect the greatest hits of the 1986-1998 period!
"Shut up and play 'Enjoy The Silence'" is the new "Shut up and play 'Satisfaction'"
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link
Granted but nothing about what you're saying is surprising at all. I mean, in terms of creative development (dare I say), I look much more to Dave and Martin's solo work and collaborations now. We're not really seeing that feed back into the main band per se. As such, Depeche-as-brand really is how to view it; it's long been clear that it's turned into a careful alliance more than anything else, with the members spread out over two hemispheres etc. etc.
I think you're quite correct what will/won't surface on the setlist -- last time out they did absolutely nothing from SOTU, which honestly surprised me, and I'm sure Delta Machine will likely not be acknowledged. They do occasional still do a random deep album cut or two as a full band thing, but it's Martin's solo turns during shows where he tends to pull a lot of rabbits out of hats -- not that he's changing everything night to night, but it seems like they figure that the full band performances kinda have to focus on the big numbers/current songs while Martin can go deep with the nerdery on his own. It's not a bad solution.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 20:18 (seven years ago) link
We're not really seeing that feed back into the main band per se.
I should elaborate -- I think for a time it was clear this was happening (Dave's growth as a songwriter in the previous decade being the key example). But that heavy lifting having been done, the band's work itself seems to be in a relative stasis. We'll just have to see exactly how dramatically dour this new album is, at least -- they can't redo Black Celebration as the quantum leap forward in terms of arrangements/production/lyrical themes, but if this is their adult equivalent of that, who knows?
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link
Among bands that have reached institutional status, those that insist on playing newer material for the majority of the show and only throwing in a few hits are a minority. There are probably a few die-hard fans who have seen every album tour and would love a concert showcasing new work, but that's not really the way arena shows work.
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 20:37 (seven years ago) link
I feel like The Cure excels at this balancing act; I've seen multiple tours that had emphasis on new material, that were greatest hits workouts, and one special one that was basically "these are our favorite album cuts"
― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 20:39 (seven years ago) link
I'm going to be disappointed if they don't play Satisfaction
wait
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link
Well, Depeche traditionally play a lot of material from the album they're currently touring as well as "the other stuff", but at this stage "the other stuff" seems to cover the same period it has done for goodness knows how long.
I'd certainly expect a lot of Spirit at the shows, just don't expect much else from the last 20 years. 'Precious' definitely, 'It's No Good' and 'Home' maybe. Martin might do a solo 'Heaven' with Gordeno on the keys at a push, but...
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 20:49 (seven years ago) link
You'd have more chance of hearing 'People Are People' and 'Love, In Itself' than 'Shine' or 'Secret To The End', it seems!
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 20:53 (seven years ago) link
Martin might do a solo 'Heaven' with Gordeno on the keys at a push, but...
I'd be quite fine with that!
And the Cure is a good comparison point here in that everything feels just loose enough to go with Robert's whims; the endlessly rotating setlists and random deep cuts that kept surfacing as last year's tour went on made it much more of a 'whoa, okay, maybe anything can happen here' feeling, at least for the first few weeks. And it's not like they didn't have their own song films as well which were played as necessary; Depeche in contrast (and like a lot of other bands at that level) is much more structured live, and tends to stick to a couple of swapped out setlists per tour with Martin's solo spots, as noted, being the more randomish factor.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 20:57 (seven years ago) link
(One other thing that's interesting to consider: if they do stick to "Precious" and nothing else from the last three albums, that means Dave's now growing collection of his own Depeche songs gets completely shut out. Maybe he's always just happy enough doing his new ones and/or knows that the inevitable big hits are prior to his songwriting days, but you have to wonder if he doesn't get a little ticked off. Personally I'd love to see "Should Be Higher" again at least.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 20:59 (seven years ago) link
I feel like The Cure excels at this balancing act; I've seen multiple tours that had emphasis on new material, that were greatest hits workouts, and one special one that was basically "these are our favorite album cuts"― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:39 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:39 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I agree! On one hand, it's kinda frustrating that 4:14 Scream still hasn't made an appearance, but on the other it's quite admirable how Robert has just turned The Cure into a touring-only entity for the last near-decade or so. No pressure delivering new material - even though I liked the material from the last record - just playing themed shows from their extensive back catalogue.
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 21:02 (seven years ago) link