I've been doing a lot of Floyd and Barrett reading lately and it seems like it's not quite as simple as that. He seems to have been an enthusiastic participant at least on the first record but had his own pov that was perhaps not entirely floydian
― Cognition (Remix) (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 25 February 2017 19:35 (seven years ago) link
He worked for days on the ending to "Bike." He wanted to out-do the Beatles as he was biter for them sacking him. It wasn't until Saucerful of Secrets that he and the Floyd started drifting apart. he said of the title track, "Personally, I think it's rubbish, but go ahead and do it if you want."
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 25 February 2017 21:08 (seven years ago) link
I thought he stopped working with The Beatles because he'd been promoted?
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Sunday, 26 February 2017 00:22 (seven years ago) link
Wikipedia sez he was promoted by EMI from engineer to producer.
It also says,
During the sessions for the song "Remember a Day", drummer Nick Mason became agitated that he could not come up with the right drum part for the song. Smith, however, knew what he wanted with the drums, so he played the part himself.[6]
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 26 February 2017 00:26 (seven years ago) link
This is enjoyable - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6Hkt0wzDYg
― MaresNest, Friday, 10 March 2017 10:37 (seven years ago) link
In the Beatles recording sessions book, the description was "during one particularly miserable session, Norman suddenly decided to quit the Beatles sessions. The four were all "hey Norman, it's not you mate, you all right?" but he was very "ah I love you lads, but I'm done, had enough now, been in this room too many years" at which point they all decided it needed redecorating at some point...
― Mark G, Friday, 10 March 2017 11:00 (seven years ago) link
(He's since deleted the tweet that said "Oops!")
Pink Floyd drummer Nick Mason crashes his McLaren F1 at Goodwood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS1N1C40pag
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link
some choice quotes in recent RS interview
http://i.imgur.com/21Q0xfU.png
― niels, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 16:11 (seven years ago) link
godrich otm
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 16:18 (seven years ago) link
If I Had Been God is the Roger Watersiest title ever
― PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 24 March 2017 00:18 (seven years ago) link
If I Had Been Syd more like.
― Bill Teeters (Tom D.), Friday, 24 March 2017 00:22 (seven years ago) link
Just learned that Gilmour's super bloozy solo on Another Brick in the Wall 2 was played not on a Strat but a Les Paul Goldtop with P90s, using the neck pickup. I was surprised.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 March 2017 01:37 (seven years ago) link
Huh!
― chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Friday, 24 March 2017 03:20 (seven years ago) link
http://www.gilmourish.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/davidsgear_lespaulgoldtop.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 March 2017 03:26 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTmZJ4euPes
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 March 2017 03:29 (seven years ago) link
there's an entire book about 'the story of' gilmour's black strat btw
― chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Friday, 24 March 2017 14:55 (seven years ago) link
i guess this sorta ruleshttp://www.recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/9433A previously unreleased 14:57 minute recording from 1966, released in mono at 33 1/3 for Record Store Day.
― tylerw, Friday, 24 March 2017 14:57 (seven years ago) link
hmm i wonder if that's the cool punky one on the Syd Barrett Tapes bootleg
― chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Friday, 24 March 2017 15:01 (seven years ago) link
"The original recording was made at the Thomson studio in Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire in November, 1966, before the Floyd signed to EMI."Made for the San Francisco film. Great version.
― tylerw, Friday, 24 March 2017 15:13 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VeKjx2w0hw
― tylerw, Friday, 24 March 2017 15:14 (seven years ago) link
Do they mean 'Previously Unreleased' on vinyl? Because if that's the full Tonite, Let's All Make Love In London version (which it feels like it is), it's been out in mono on CDs for years.
XP Hmmm...
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 24 March 2017 15:18 (seven years ago) link
For those who've never had the pleasure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAyN-8rwINA
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 24 March 2017 15:25 (seven years ago) link
Oh it's the Tonight Let's All... version? That thing fucking rules.
― chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Friday, 24 March 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link
according to the press release it's the 10/31/66 thompson studio demo for "San Francisco" -- the London version is from a couple months later I think ...
― tylerw, Friday, 24 March 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link
yeeshkul of course has a definitive listing
Interstellar Overdrive - Known Versions
01 1966-10-31 Thompson Private Recorders for SAN FRANCISCO02 1967-01-11 Sounds Techniques Studios for TONITE…03 1967-01-27 Granada TV Doc Underground Scene04 1967-March/June Abbey Road, TPatGoD MONO05 1967-March/June Abbey Road, TPatGoD STEREO06 1967-03-16/17 Abbey Road, 40th Anniversary Take 607 1967-11-13 Oude-Ahoy Hallen08 1968-05-06 First European International Pop Festival, Palazzo Dello Sport, EUR09 1968-05-23 Paradiso Early Show10 1968-07-27 Shrine Exposition Hall11 1968-12-02 Top Gear Show12 1968-12-28 Flight to Lowlands Paradise II, Margriethaal-Jaarbeurs13 1969-03-27 St James Hall14 1969-04-14 Royal Festival Hall15 1969-05-02 Manchester College Of Commerce16 1969-05-09 University Of Southampton17 1969-08-08 Plumpton Racetrack18 1969-08-09 Paradiso19 1969-10-11 Grugahalle20 1969-10-25 Mont de L'Enclus21 1969-12-06 Afan Indoor Sports Centre22 1970-02-28 Refectory Hall, Leeds University23 1970-03-12 Auditorium Maximus24 1970-03-13 Konzert Saal, Technische Universitat25 1970-03-14 Meistersinger Halle26 1970-03-15 Niedersachsenhalle27 1970-03-20 Akademiska Foreningens, Stora Sal28 1970-04-22 Capitol Theater29 1970-04-29 Fillmore West 30 1970-05-01 Civic Auditorium31 1970-06-28 Kraalinge Bos32 1970-07-12 Soerser Stadium33 1970-09-26 The Electric Factory34 1970-10-23 Civic Auditorium35 1970-11-22 Altes Casino
― tylerw, Friday, 24 March 2017 15:37 (seven years ago) link
ok it's the hard punky one I was thinking of. Cool!
― chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Friday, 24 March 2017 15:42 (seven years ago) link
yeah, rules
― tylerw, Friday, 24 March 2017 15:42 (seven years ago) link
damn, are those really all the recorded versions of interstellar overdrive? short list. (no it isn't- stockholm hadn't surfaced at that point.) so, so many of them are awesome. electric factory, amougies, bbc '68 - all RULE
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 24 March 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link
there's a solo syd demo too right? i made a mix of a bunch of 'em at some point ...
― tylerw, Friday, 24 March 2017 19:04 (seven years ago) link
lol there's a solo syd demo???
― chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Friday, 24 March 2017 19:27 (seven years ago) link
ha, maybe i'm making that up ...?
― tylerw, Friday, 24 March 2017 19:40 (seven years ago) link
heard this shit in Dr. Strange last weekend.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 24 March 2017 21:44 (seven years ago) link
'Hey You' just came up on shuffle play and it reminded me that Gilmour was actually quite a nifty fretless bass player... oh, what could have been if he'd taken the instrument up full-time, he could have given Mick Karn a run for his money.
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Saturday, 25 March 2017 01:35 (seven years ago) link
Years back I did some work with Guy Pr@tt and I asked him 'so, is it *really* true that Gilmour played the good bass stuff on the records?' he just laughed and looked at me like I was crazy for even asking.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 25 March 2017 10:17 (seven years ago) link
I would include Piper and Pompeii "Echoes" among "the good bass stuff," and always thought it was a shame that Waters never really kept at it -- he was on the verge of developing a unique voice on the instrument.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 25 March 2017 11:35 (seven years ago) link
I think his playing was pretty good up until about 1970/71. Never really noticed it thereafter.
― Bill Teeters (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 March 2017 12:01 (seven years ago) link
The way you see him hacking away at the Money bassline on an acoustic guitar on the making of DSOTM documentary suggests to me that he's got no feel whatsoever for the instrument.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 25 March 2017 14:30 (seven years ago) link
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat)
fred frith's bass playing in naked city was really influenced by roger waters, i've heard.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Saturday, 25 March 2017 17:21 (seven years ago) link
Was listening to the Stockholm 67 recording and thinking waters sounded awesome -- but it's more of an elemental thing overall ...
― tylerw, Saturday, 25 March 2017 17:38 (seven years ago) link
Fretless solo on Murder, from About Face, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 25 March 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link
That's not Pino Palladino?
― MaresNest, Saturday, 25 March 2017 18:42 (seven years ago) link
Years back I did some work with Guy Pr@tt and I asked him 'so, is it *really* true that Gilmour played the good bass stuff on the records?' he just laughed and looked at me like I was crazy for even asking.― MaresNest, Saturday, March 25, 2017 10:17 AM (twelve hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― MaresNest, Saturday, March 25, 2017 10:17 AM (twelve hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
He did the bulk of the good singing on the records too. The rest of the good singing, of course, being done by Rick Wright.
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Saturday, 25 March 2017 22:41 (seven years ago) link
from what i understand he was responsible for the large majority of the good guitar playing as well
― PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 26 March 2017 02:19 (seven years ago) link
to be fair gilmour did his share of bad singing as well.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Sunday, 26 March 2017 02:48 (seven years ago) link
Definitely did most pouting.
― Bill Teeters (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 March 2017 09:30 (seven years ago) link
Funny that the member of Floyd responsible for most of its good singing, bass playing, and guitar playing managed to parlay these superior skills into Floyd's worst record.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 26 March 2017 11:32 (seven years ago) link
And their best! WYWH :)
― MaresNest, Sunday, 26 March 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link
Always felt Waters had the ideas and the aesthetics, Gilmour had the skills, Mason the sense of humor, and Wright the soul. Clearly, as Floyd began to get more "serious" you can see how much Wright and especially Mason get marginalized in the late 70's.
― octobeard, Sunday, 26 March 2017 23:05 (seven years ago) link
Pushing Wright increasingly into the margins post-Wish You Were Here was a huge mistake. I think his keyboard playing is still superb on Animals, but I begin to miss his voice. I miss his keyboard playing on The Wall and The Final Cut. It's true that Waters was great with concepts and song ideas, but I think he went a little too far in forcing his "vision" upon the band on The Wall and The Final Cut to the point where it smothered the identity of the band. Animals, as much as Waters dominated on that record, is the last "true" Floyd record for me, in that you can still hear all the band members working together to create that Pink Floyd sound that they honed together over a number of years following Syd's departure. After that, it was Waters (plus backing band) or Gilmour (plus backing band) and the bands identity was lost.
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Sunday, 26 March 2017 23:17 (seven years ago) link
Turrican OTM
― doug watson, Monday, 27 March 2017 01:43 (seven years ago) link