They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

feels like there's a lot of alien fodder here:

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franco as a reiser-like company man would be perfect

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if james franco becomes alien food this will instantly become one of the greatest movies ever made

― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, February 24, 2017 6:49 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Was it Joe Queenan who wrote that, when he went to see Alive, he yelled "Eat Vincent Spano first!" at the screen?

i remember a string of movies a while back where jared leto got beat up every time he was on screen. I think he deserved to be in this movie

Anyway, new trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svnAD0TApb8

This film sure feels like Scott is doing his own fanfic tribute to all the other movies at once.

in a good way? or no

I...don't know? On the one hand I happily want to see this, on the other hand everything feels like something I've seen before. (Which shouldn't surprise me, but.)

the film could be a greatest hits comp but i could also see the trailer being cut for maximum familiarity. i'm probably more of a scott apologist than most, so i think this looks good.

i could also see the trailer being cut for maximum familiarity

Yeah, maybe. Get all the obvious beats out of the way? (But doubtless more to come.)

Now that we're fully moved into the era of 'cinematic universes' there's something to be said for the sheer randomness of what could happen beforehand when it was more a question of rights batted about for a while and something thinking somewhere 'this could be a good idea/make money/etc.' Also thinking about the first four films each had at least five years between them if not more, and at no point was it ever clear when any of the films finished that there was going to be a next one.

Also it's interesting to think of Scott now apparently continuing to circle back on the whole franchise more and more as time goes on and inevitably gets shorter. The guy is almost 80, he's already seen his brother tragically die, he has to have some sense of an 'end' coming. And he's always doing something else, it seems (honestly had forgotten he'd directed three other films between this one and Prometheus). But whereas he's let Blade Runner go beyond producing it -- and he's almost certainly aware that there's no real way to capture that lightning in a bottle twice -- in contrast he's now directed half of the full six films of the franchise (I am not counting the Predator crossovers). Still, now that I think about it more, there's also something to the fact that it's a franchise he inadvertantly started by chance when he was already over 40, and of course wasn't a story he came up with to start -- his perspective on it has to be a pretty distinct one, near unique.

jeez three films since Prometheus...i'd completely forgotten about Exodus

i appreciate that the guy is going to be 80 in December and plans on making two more Alien films (in the Covenant trilogy/Prometheus quadrilogy, whatever this is called...)

Sadly the wheat thing in the trailer suggest more von daniken bollocks in this movie

I'm biased but this looks cool as hell. Of course it's gonna hit a lot of familiar beats, how's that worse than any other franchise movie ever? I just want it to be good.

I LOVE the new alien design. They went too far with the design changes after the third movie, basically making the aliens into slimy velociraptors instead of biomechanical hell beasts. They even gave that muppet-ass hybrid alien in Resurrection a pair of grandpa tits, which was unforgivable. That movie looked like nonstop ass. Not the good kind of life-affirming ass either.

Anyway, uh yeah I'm gonna see this.

Not that I ever claimed to be an expert on the design but what are the key points of difference in this one you're seeing?

Honestly I'm mostly trying to puzzle out what the exact connections w/r/t Prometheus will or won't be. An easy implication is that the crashed horseshoe ship in this film is the one that was flown off at the end of Prometheus but if that's the case trying to figure out where the eggs come from is the trick. (The most interesting shot to me so far is in the first trailer where some sort of tiny...thing seems to be flying into Fassbender's ear.)

If Prometheus showed where the alien came from, then where did the queen come from?

Mayfair

I'm betting the black goo from Prometheus has something to do with it.

This new design is like a spindlier, slightly more organic version of the original Giger design. I dig it. The later designs in the later movies (Resurrection and the AvP flicks) went too far in the fleshy, organic direction at the expense of the biomechanoid elements that made the original design unique.

X-post to Ned

I'm betting the black goo from Prometheus has something to do with it.

Yeah, it's the most obvious connection. It's an interesting out they gave themselves in that film -- we knew what was in the one main ship but of course it crashed. No exact idea what's in the other one they flew away.

the original Giger design

I read this as 'original Geir design' for a second and went, "There's a thought."

But per James's observation, doesn't explain the wheat directly. Anyway, guess we'll find out -- I admit I was double-checking the screenwriter credits to confirm Lindelof wasn't involved.

An easy implication is that the crashed horseshoe ship in this film is the one that was flown off at the end of Prometheus but if that's the case trying to figure out where the eggs come from is the trick.

it's not a trick, the movie is going to suck.

It very well might but what does it add to the thread by saying so? You're not doing anyone a favor, you're just adding more reflexive scoffing to the pile. There's plenty of that in every movie thread already.

It's pretty easy to adopt a knowingly cynical attitude instead of being vulnerable and allowing yourself to be excited about something and hope that it will be good.

Skepticism and ambivalence are fine, just really get tired of that glib, reflexive "It's gonna suck" attitude. It sucks the air out of everything.

And disappointment is healthy and fine too! I'd rather be massively disappointed by something than go in knowing exactly what my reaction will be.

I haven't seen a trailer for Prometheus 1, let alone 2, but I bet this will suck too :)

This isn't really about Alien this is just stuff I've been thinkin' about lately.

At this point they're continuing a story that I could give two shits about and barely remember anyway. Like I wasn't exactly on the edge of my seat after Prometheus (more like stretched across three taking a nap)

i like black sand space movies & i love me some ridley but we're a couple of stops past where i should have got off the Alien train

those white dudes have got to stop crashing their ships

I mean their insurance premiums must be through the roof

they make up for it by employing super low budget incompetent crews

In a post-Trump world it's certainly plausible

Wonder if the hooded figure glimpsed in this is Noomi Rapace's Dr Shaw

It appears to be going both ways - I can see the more bio-mechanoid look in the alien at the end, but the one at 1:45 seems to have human-like skin?

i really want danny mcbride to be the surprise sole survivor of this movie

movie ends with him calling his daughter, Ellen Ripley, back on Earth

woah

appreciate latebloomer's enthusiasm

skeptical about this being a ship meant to set up a colony with partnered couples, seems like a recipe for undercooked relationship drama and easy emotional beats

Fassbender's still a robot, right? imo the best plot would be this one finding the memory chip from the Prometheus one and getting up to some evil hijinks

Fassbender IS using a different accent in this one, yes? Do different models have different accents? There's some custom designing.

well, the one in Prometheus was obsessed with Laurence Olivier, so it could have been something he decided to affect

this one's secretly obsessed with gg allin

the one in Prometheus was obsessed with Laurence Olivier

Peter O'Toole, surely.

Laurence of Arabia tbf

brain fart, sorry guys

I guess everyone knows the movie and actor I get confused now and I don't need to post to that thread.

For the next movie, Fassbender will be asked to be obsessed with Jason Statham.

Steve Jobs

boo to Jobs, yay to Statham

we get scenes of him shadowboxing along to Statham classics

in the climax of the film, he punches an alien in the head