Britpop was surely dead by 97 and replaced with dadrock/cool britannia?
― Odysseus, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:25 (seven years ago) link
The second album of Kula Shaker is so much better than the first. In general, they were really good at seeming cool for fifteen seconds each track (oh, sitar! this one is in 5/4?!?!?) and then running completely out of ideas.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:27 (seven years ago) link
Cast; A Warning From History
http://i.imgur.com/ShCU8Gn.jpg
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:29 (seven years ago) link
my one britpop guilty pleasure is gene (do they even count?)
― Benylin Ascent (NickB), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:30 (seven years ago) link
weren't Gene an instalment of the yearly NME "New Smiths"?
― Odysseus, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:32 (seven years ago) link
If something was good and has stood the test of time then it's just not Britpop.
You'd have a point if the likes of Pulp or Suede weren't still tagged with the word.
Almost all of the better bands saddled with the term released their debuts prior to '95. There's maybe a couple from the second wave, but not a lot.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:33 (seven years ago) link
gene were better once they became the old new smiths that no-one really gave a shit about iirc xp
― Benylin Ascent (NickB), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:33 (seven years ago) link
i could be wrong though, i wasn't really paying that much attention
― Benylin Ascent (NickB), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:35 (seven years ago) link
Oh I loved El Hombre Trajeado, happened to notice the other day that they released a new album recently inc 1 track featuring the rather more ILX-beloved Sue from Life Without Buildings, no idea if it's any good
NickB, I haven't heard it for many years, so I may well owe you £1.03! That Brighton lineup would've made me v jealous at the time...
― a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:38 (seven years ago) link
Britpop was surely dead by 97 and replaced with dadrock/cool britannia?― Odysseus, Tuesday, February 21, 2017 11:25 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Odysseus, Tuesday, February 21, 2017 11:25 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Cool Britannia was just another shit useless media concoction like Britpop was. Dadrock was a term used by twats to describe any guitar music with a retro-rock bent.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:39 (seven years ago) link
The bands in this wiki are all worse than most 95 Britpop
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-Britpop
The cultural and musical scene in Scotland, dubbed "Cool Caledonia" by some elements of the press,[18] produced a number of successful alternative acts, including The Supernaturals from Glasgow, whose re-released single "Smile" (1997) reached number 25 in the UK charts, and whose album It Doesn't Matter Anymore (1997) entered the top ten, but who failed to sustain their success or achieve the anticipated international breakthrough.[19] Travis, also from Glasgow, were one of the first major rock bands to emerge in the post-Britpop era.[3] Utilising the hooks and guitar rock favoured by Oasis in a song-based format, they moved from the personal on Good Feeling (1997), through the general on their breakthrough The Man Who (1999), to the socially conscious and political on 12 Memories (2003)[9] and have been credited with a major role in disseminating a new Britpop.[20][21] From Edinburgh Idlewild, more influenced by post-grunge, just failed to break into the British top 50 with their second album Hope Is Important (1998), but subsequently produced 3 top 20 albums, peaking with The Remote Part (2002), and the single "You Held the World in Your Arms", which both reached number 9 in the respective UK charts. Although garnering some international attention, they did not break through in the US.[22]
The first major band to breakthrough from the post-Britpop Welsh rock scene, dubbed "Cool Cymru",[18] were Catatonia, whose single "Mulder and Scully" (1998) reached the top ten in the UK, and whose album International Velvet (1998) reached number one, but they were unable to make much impact in the US and, after personal problems, broke up at the end of the century.[8][23] Stereophonics, also from Wales, utilised elements of a post-grunge and hardcore on their breakthrough album Performance and Cocktails (1999), before moving into more melodic territory with Just Enough Education to Perform (2001) and subsequent albums.[24][25] Also from Wales were Feeder, who were initially more influenced by American post-grunge, producing a hard rock sound that led to their breakthrough single "Buck Rogers" and the album Echo Park (2001).[26] After the death of their drummer Jon Lee, they moved to a more reflective and introspective mode on Comfort in Sound (2002), their most commercially successful album to that point, which spawned a series of hit singles.[27]
These acts were followed by a number of bands who shared aspects of their music, including Snow Patrol, from Northern Ireland and Elbow, Embrace, Starsailor, Doves and Keane from England.[3][29] The most commercially successful band in the milieu were Coldplay, whose first two albums Parachutes (2000) and A Rush of Blood to the Head (2002) going multi-platinum, establishing them as one of the most popular acts in the world by the time of their third album X&Y (2005).[28][30]
― Odysseus, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:41 (seven years ago) link
that's the real dregs there
― Odysseus, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:44 (seven years ago) link
fuck that list is a bit "bring back shed seven, all is forgiven, let's burn the disco down after all"
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:45 (seven years ago) link
What were you guys listening to in 95?
The Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie and the Infinite SadnessSonic Youth - Washing MachineGuided By Voices - Alien LanesBlonde Redhead - La Mia Vita ViolentaMotorpsycho - BlissardHelium - The Dirt of LuckAutechre - Tri RepetaeThe Chemical Brothers - Exit Planet DustYo La Tengo - Electr-O-PuraPond - The Practice of Joy Before DeathSmog - Wild LoveThree Mile Pilot - The Chief Assassin to the SinisterPJ Harvey - To Bring You My LoveThurston Moore - Psychic HeartsTindersticks - Tindersticks IIAphex Twin - I Care Because You DoThe Mountain Goats - Sweden
also:The Velvet Underground - Peel Slowly and See
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:45 (seven years ago) link
These are the albums I bought at the time
Alice In Chains - Alice In Chains Aphex Twin - ...I Care Because You Do , Autechre - Tri repetae , Black Grape - Its Great When Your Straight... Yeah! Blonde Redhead - La Mia Vita Violenta, Don Caballero - Don Caballero 2 Earth - Pentastar. Elastica - S/t Faith No More - King For A Day ... Fool For A Lifetime , Flaming Lips - Clouds Taste Metallic, Foo Fighters - Foo Fighters , Fugazi - Red Medicine Goldie - Timeless In the Woods... Kyuss - ...And the Circus Leaves Town , Leftfield - Leftism, Menswear - Nuisance Mercury Rev - See You on the Other Side, Monster Magnet - Dopes To Infinity, Mouse On Mars - Iahora Tahito Neil Young - Mirorball Pavement- Wowee Zowee, PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love, Pulp - Different Class Radiohead - The Bends, Rocket From The Crypt - Hot Charity, Scott Walker - Tilt, Sonic Youth - Washing Machine Sparklehorse - Vivadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot Spiritualized - Pure Phase , Supergrass - I Should Coco , Teenage Fanclub - Grand Prix The Chemical Brothers - Exit Planet Dust The Heads - Relaxing With... ? The Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness , The Verve - A Northern Soul, The Wildhearts - P.H.U.Q. The Young Gods - Only Heaven , Tricky - Maxinquaye,Unsane - Scattered, Smothered and Covered , Urge Overkill - Exit the Dragon Weezer - Weezer
― Odysseus, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:48 (seven years ago) link
Not bad!
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:50 (seven years ago) link
in 95 i was mostly listening to tricky, oval, labradford, tortoise, seefeel, palace music, come, the dead c, autechre, smog, polvo, unwound
― Benylin Ascent (NickB), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:56 (seven years ago) link
And since then I've bought/heard a lot more 95 albums inc oval, labradford, tortoise, seefeel, palace music, come, autechre, smog, polvo, unwound, gbv and yo la tengo.
― Odysseus, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 00:05 (seven years ago) link
In hindsight I wish I was paying more attention to liquid swords and black secret technology
― Benylin Ascent (NickB), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 00:13 (seven years ago) link
similarly, i feel i should have checked out more Thurman and Heavy Stereo
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 01:02 (seven years ago) link
I saw Heavy Stereo supporting Oasis at Irvine Beach. I think I have 'Sleep Freak' as one of the aforementioned 99p singles
― Odysseus, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 12:34 (seven years ago) link
99p singles translated very cheaply in the US so I was able to order 5-10 at a time from Map Records, Action Records or Siren Disc. Great for try-before-you-buy-more, and I've gotten rid of most of that stuff over the years. Sometimes one good song prompted me to buy multiple singles & albums and, years later, I'd find myself thinking, "Why do I have the complete works of Warm Jets or Lower or The Kynd"?
But the mid-90s were great for me. Based on the artists mentioned here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Britpop_musicians - these have stood the test of time for me:
The first Cast album was exactly what I wanted to hear at the time, all bright and shiny and shallow. I know most will turn their nose up at Cud but, damn, I still find their albums clever and fun. Gene's first two LPs and the singles comp move from the Smiths tribute (and I love the Smiths) to something different by their second album. Lush moved from shoegaze to Britpop and still made memorable albums. Strangelove was this dark, intense, hiding-in-the-shadows band that channelled all my angst and anger. Babybird took lo-fi to a new level with copious earworms and good humor.
At the time I might've said it was the last gasp of 60s look-back bores influencing underground rock, what with all the Beatles, Stones, Who and Kinks vibes writ large. I never cared for the big progenitors of Britpop but I appreciated the bands that took it and added a dash of punk or post-punk to twist their sound.
Most of my music-loving friends dipped in and out of these acts at the time - if you listened to alternative or college radio you couldn't help but get a healthy dose - but they didn't have nearly as big an impact in my circle as local and other US bands at the time.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 15:56 (seven years ago) link
I was able to order 5-10 at a time from Map Records, Action Records or Siren Disc
Oh yeah, I ordered lots from Action and Siren Disc back then, including that Warm Jets album and a few from Strangelove. Actually forgot about Siren Disc until you mentioned them; nice to see they're still around and still using the same graphics from 20 years ago! I haven't listened to the Warm Jets in many years, but I do still put on Strangelove occasionally, as well as a few other similar records I ordered from those stores around the same time -- Geneva, Puressence, and Marion.
― early rejecter, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 16:57 (seven years ago) link
I saw Warm Jets supporting Blur at the SECC on the Great Escape tour. Didn't think much of them.
― Odysseus, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 17:32 (seven years ago) link
Let's talk about how awesome 'Stay Together' is, or 'F.E.E.L.I.N.G.C.A.L.L.E.D.L.O.V.E.', or 'Trouble In The Message Centre', or 'Acquiesce' ...
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:01 (seven years ago) link
A lot of bad Britpop was still fun to dance to (e.g. OCS, Kula Shaker) if you'd drunk enough bad beer.
97 is the point where everything went definitively bad, everything started to sound like Embrace, Teenage Fanclub turned into Del Amitri, the Space/Catatonia thing remains the worst single of my lifetime, and fucking geezers DJing Skint records in every club, greasy spoon and vegetarian cafe in the world.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 23:57 (seven years ago) link
Wait, but I like Del Amitri... ;-)
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 23 February 2017 00:06 (seven years ago) link
It's more like Del Amitri started to sound like TFC rather than the other way round. Some Other Suckers Parade is a response to Grand Prix. These guys go way back anyway. They were sharing the same Glasgow stages in 1986.
― everything, Thursday, 23 February 2017 01:49 (seven years ago) link
...by which I mean neither are Britpop partly because they both predate Britpop by years.
― everything, Thursday, 23 February 2017 01:51 (seven years ago) link
so do pulp tbf
― imago, Thursday, 23 February 2017 01:58 (seven years ago) link
Pulp and Blur are the big brand-leading Britpoppers (along with Oasis) yet they both predate and transcend the genre. They barely have a sound that could be described as being "like Britpop" and they both disavow their involvement. Really, "Britpop" is just an term that is not useful to anyone.
― everything, Thursday, 23 February 2017 02:11 (seven years ago) link
I'm sticking to my own definition of "if it's shit, it's Britpop". So Blur, Pulp, St Etienne, TFC, Stereolab, Cud, and a few Dodgy songs are not Britpop.
― everything, Thursday, 23 February 2017 02:13 (seven years ago) link
Amy Winehouse / Sugababes / Girls Aloud is the best Britpop era
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 23 February 2017 10:15 (seven years ago) link
'Star Shaped' by Blur. Fucking choon.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Thursday, 23 February 2017 22:25 (seven years ago) link
tygers of pan tang / girlschool / dumpy's rusty nuts is the best britpop era
― for sale: steve bannon waifu pillow (heavily soiled) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 February 2017 23:50 (seven years ago) link
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17157525_1767136930271029_2212947832222901740_o.jpg?oh=e442f5bda03c3a5b6fef7a9d0afda66c&oe=596AA641
― Odysseus, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 11:32 (seven years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/beanoonthesea/
― Odysseus, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 11:33 (seven years ago) link
Oh too bad I don't still live in smack mansions or I'd get to hear that for free. Last year we got Dizzee Rascal/KRS-One and the Levellers on that weekend.
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 11:41 (seven years ago) link
those pesky women have been ejected for this one eh
i presume the supernaturals will just perform tv advertising staple 'smile' eight times in a row and then leave the stage
― frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 11:42 (seven years ago) link
Kinda harsh. They had a handful of other semi-hits: Lazy Lover, The Day Before Yesterday's Man, Love Has Passed Away, Sheffield Song, I Wasn't Built To Get Up - the latter of which is the most obviously begging 'please play us on the breakfast show' single of all time
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 11:44 (seven years ago) link
I wonder who the other big names will be
― Odysseus, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 11:45 (seven years ago) link
i'd like to formally apologise to the supernaturals for not offering the recognition they deserve for their string of scraping-the-top-40 singles in 1996
also they've been back together since 2012 according to wikipedia wtf
― frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 11:48 (seven years ago) link
Sheffield Song is a CHOON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqlS-uaPK7A
(admittedly that choon is Curly by The Move but a CHOON nonetheless)
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 11:50 (seven years ago) link
cashing in on being on a banking advert since 2012
― Odysseus, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 13:33 (seven years ago) link
what a bunch of bankers etc
― Odysseus, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 13:34 (seven years ago) link
The only promotion I remember seeing for 'I Wasn't Built To Get Up' was on some TV breakfast show, so I guess it worked if that's what they were aiming for.
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 13:37 (seven years ago) link
If there was a unifying factor in Britpop, it was that you could get away with just singing 'la la la' or 'na na na' instead of words during the chorus and/or coda
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 16 October 2017 10:24 (six years ago) link
Kevin Shields: 'Britpop was pushed by the government'.
Has this terrific opinion been discussed?
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 October 2017 10:44 (six years ago) link
if you had an orchestra
― Mark G, Monday, 16 October 2017 10:44 (six years ago) link
"Someday it would be interesting to read all the MI5 files on Britpop. The wool was pulled right over everyone's eyes there."
Nothing worse than old hippies talking ridiculous truther type nonsense imo. But I agree with the latter alright!
― calzino, Monday, 16 October 2017 11:03 (six years ago) link