pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

That’s the problem with the internet and social media and stuff: the stuff that you like, you can’t say what it is that you like about something. If you like something, it’s supposed to be beyond the intellectual. But I will ride for Nickelback—I want that on the record. ‘Farmer John Misery: I ride for Nickelback.’

Given a choice, I'd take an hour of Nickelback over ten minutes of Father John Misty, and I'd put that on my mama

I've never heard a note of that guy's music, but his whole late-period-Jim-Morrison-wearing-one-of-Nick-Cave's-suits look is way more offensive than his being into Nickelback.

Lol mh

i hate how "performative" has spread so quickly. dude is a performer, what do you expect? he gives good interviews, i like them better than his music

Socioeconomic class issues don't account for the hate - being shitty does - but Nickelback fans I nonetheless suspect firmly fall into the same socioeconomic class as fans of the band's hard rock/hair metal/AOR etc. predecessors. Which is to say, white working class, a familiar phrase these days. They're not necessarily deserving of disdain, but they do get mocked, and I'd argue get mocked for stereotypical socio economic class signifiers before musical taste. That is, for looking like Nickelback fans first, and being Nickelback fans second.

I guess I'm unconvinced that Nickelback's audience belongs to a class that is less wealthy and powerful than the that of the people who hate Nickelback, which is the kind of 'classism' that would most concern me. (I think I would still hold to this if it is true that their audience largely belongs to the white working class, as it is defined here, i.e. ≈64% of the white population in the US, privileged relative to the non-white working class, predominantly urban/suburban, and pretty diverse in employment).

than the that of the people

i'm pretty sure a large portion of nickelback's adult audience makes more money than me. they look like solid citizens.

there are lots of people who just want solid dependable ram tough slightly anonymous no-frills no-surprises music and it speaks to their solid sense of self in language that they understand (or bolsters their lack of strength and hey me too) and don't need to think about it too hard because its just music and it serves a purpose and pumps you up or soothes you when you are feeling blue in the car after work and there is too much traffic. sometimes i envy people who just use music for very specific times and purposes and don't obsess over it and make a big deal out of things. though they probably obsess over other things. like fishing poles. the right kind of fishing poles. tires. i hear my neighbors next door talking about tires sometimes. it's weird that i feel separate and apart from normal white folks but i just didn't grow up with christ or even normalcy and i know that we all eat a lot of chicken and potatoes but i often feel like i am passing when i talk to them. plenty of great normal people out there though. i'm not selling them short. i talk to them from time to time when they want to sell me their dead grandma's records. (and i'm also not saying that they don't feel deeply about the songs and artists they like. i have no doubt that they do.)

also: i am watching every episode of Friends on Netflix (blizzards, snow days, february...) and that one where they go to the Hootie concert still strikes me as weird for some reason? i don't know why. i guess it makes the most sense for Ross. maybe just because they're in new york? but they were hootie's demo kinda.

Scott, sounds about right. Also, if you're in Canada, they play this stuff on radio as part of Canadian content standards, and a lot of people think radio = what's in. Obvious point I guess.

i was impressed by the grizzled guy in his 50's who was looking for CDs yesterday who came up and said "Do you have any Flo Rida, Toto, or Survivor...?"

i do like surprises.

as far as Canada big goes, i'd rather listen to The Stampeders. talk about huge.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/473524872153288704/e42nji0e.jpeg

I am glad Ross brought up cancon because I saw a couple people on twitter being all "nickelback is fine" and realized they were subject tof our neighbor's cultural sponsorship regime

i was impressed by the grizzled guy in his 50's who was looking for CDs yesterday who came up and said "Do you have any Flo Rida, Toto, or Survivor...?"

i do like surprises.

― scott seward, Monday, February 13, 2017 1:40 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'd be disappointed if you didnt give this man a big hug.

BONKERS! B-O-N-K-E-R-S!

http://pitchfork.com/news/71539-animal-collectives-new-song-is-kinda-bonkers-listen/

possibly the most irritating band on the planet

Because of their music, because of the critical discourse that surrounds it or both?

everything

the visual design too

maybe even especially

but is there anything inherently good in nickelback's sound

ahahah i didn't even make the connection when I heard the new song, the AC is appealing directly to p4k now...

These five words in my head
Ain't learned another chord yet

Nickelbonkers!

Misread that as 'Nice bonkers!'

Just popping in to say that the pic on this Grammy piece is fucking amazing

http://cdn3.pitchfork.com/blog/1441/1d3abc80.jpg

the trophy might as well be one of those cartoon time-bombs with the words WHITE PRIVILEGE emblazoned on it.

is it true The Pitchfork Review is over?

Chad Ubovich is already a proven guitar hero, having played in Fuzz and with Mikal Cronin

really stretching the definition of "guitar hero" here, guys

Love that classic Ubovich tone

i mean, he does rip and he's played in several good bands

http://pitchfork.com/tv/61-the-short-list/1935-five-essential-songs-featuring-vocoder/

Boreds of Canada and Cities of Foam but no Mantronix, no Grandmaster Flash & The Curious Five, no Project Future, what a lame list

Furious even

hey man it's essential songs--you can't live without Cities of Foam, can you?

how to wreck a nice pitch

"i want to be your man" ainec

I hate to be a pitchfork pedant, but it's not THE five MOST essential songs, it's just five essential songs

I wish they included a couple talkbox songs so people could explain a talkbox isn't a vocoder

and then they could include something from Frampton Comes Alive, and secretly have it loop infinitely

Really don't like that with the redesign from some time ago that they got rid of the daily track reviews. Lame.

Tracks reviews are still running it seems, but they are buried away on this page:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/

Yeah just noticed that - what a weird UX decision.

wow wtf, I visit them regularly and I had no idea about 9/10 of that #content

i was confused about where to find track reviews for a minute, but then i thought "hey i wonder what's the latest?" and instantly knew i should click "the latest", and then i found the link to the tracks there. the latest tracks, that's what i'm looking for, makes sense

kind of like when i visit NYT and i'm looking for videos but i can't find them off the front page, but then i think "i want to see some videos that make me go whoooaaa", which prompts me to click the "whoooaaa" link, which of course leads to a link to the videos

some of you may remember that this form of free association leading to repositories of content categories was a staple of early search engines. instead of searching for "how to clean red wine stain" you'd go for something like "an evening in the balance" and just hope you'd land on the right area which would then lead to the wine cleaning tips

I think the problem here is that there was a section for tracks on the homepage for years, and with that gone and the section not easily findable, it's not unreasonable to assume they're just not there anymore. Plus, if you click on "reviews" in the menu, where you might expect to find them, they're not there, and there is no link to tracks from there.

It's also mad difficult to find the escort classifieds

I think the problem here is the four people on ILX that still visit homepages in 2017

MailChimp has a new marketing campaign where, in a series of websites and videos, they offer “experiences” that rhyme with the company’s name. As it turns out, VeilHymn—the new duo of Dev Hynes (Blood Orange) and Bryndon Cook (Starchild & The New Romantic)—is part of that campaign. (Cook is a former Pitchfork intern.) A MailChimp press release names VeilHymn alongside “MailShrimp,” “KaleLimp,” “WhaleSynth,” and more as “strategically created executions targeting digital subculture.” The duo were prompted by the company to give the project a name that rhymed with MailChimp. A representative for Hynes confirms that their single “Hymn” was created exclusively for the company. The song’s interactive video on VeilHymn.com redirects to other websites created for the MailChimp campaign.

http://pitchfork.com/news/71815-dev-hynes-new-band-veilhymn-chose-name-wrote-single-as-part-of-mailchimp-promotion

thanks to p4k for confirming the meaning behind those stupid billboards and the reveal of these "strategically created executions targeting digital subculture". '

they should cut out the middle man and just start unedited posting press releases in full.