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"Dragging A Dead Deer Up A Hill"

Best album title ever too!!!

jonathan - stl, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

I just ordered the re-release of the split with Inca Ore from Aquarius. Can't wait.

Have you got it yet? Is it good? Did you order it from her website? How much was it?

Yeah, I'm still really, really into the new one. It only sounds better as it gets colder and more leaves fall off the trees.

Z S, Sunday, 5 October 2008 19:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

nice

czn (cozwn), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 13:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

vaguely recall a mention on ILX and an Inca Ore connection (blown away Ms. Saelens live recently, her LP one of few sweet spots of '08 for me)...

must investigate further!

also, this Grouper LP punching well above it's weight in obscurity here http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/2008

fandango, Sunday, 14 December 2008 08:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

The inca ore and grouper split is from 2007. It's ok, sort of a bridge between her first records and the minimalistic approach of guitar/voice style that she used on 'dragging a dead dear'.

Moka, Sunday, 14 December 2008 09:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/inca_ore___grouper/split/

Moka, Sunday, 14 December 2008 09:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

Has anybody deciphered the lyrics to 'heavy water/I'd rather be sleeping'? - so far I can only make up: 'love is enormous / it's lifting me up / i'd rather be sleeping / i'd rather fall in your tidal waves / right where the deepest currents pull'

Moka, Monday, 22 December 2008 07:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

this album ! :-O

really really good.

fandango, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

If this was a dude, you wouldn't care

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, June 23, 2008 2:43 AM

(Z S) (Z S), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

If she was a dude she would still be 1000x more interesting than Fleet Fuxxes

fandango, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

^^real talk. 'Dead Deer' is on my top ten list of the year, but I don't know what she looks like (if looks are what's implied). And well, imagining the vocals as coming from a he, well that's just silly.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 22 December 2008 23:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

btw, I wasn't quoting that as in "I agree with this", I was quoting that as in

(Z S) (Z S), Monday, 22 December 2008 23:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

I want to say something about how this album unfolds it's pleasures like a flower, at about the same speed, without it sounding dirty.

Possibly the most gorgously intimate and non "produced" sounding thing I've heard all year too. She might as well be in the room.

fandango, Sunday, 28 December 2008 23:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

This goes down well with a copy of Chris Ware's graphic novel The Smartest Kid on Earth and my Mom's fried boneless fish.

dreamsonvhs, Saturday, 11 April 2009 07:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

If this was a dude, you wouldn't care

Plenty of us care about Sonic Boom!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 11 April 2009 09:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I picked this up on a whim today from amazon's mp3 store, where it's on sale for $1.99. It's remarkably gorgeous!

Euler, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 14:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

by "this" I mean the Dragging a Dead Deer album

Euler, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 14:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

Deeply amused by "fart alert"

Shannon Whirry & the Bad Brains, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 16:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

That's a damn good price (I paid $14.99 retail) and almost makes me want to switch over to buying in digital format... but not really. xpost

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 17:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

That's exactly my sentiment, ilxor. But if a crazy low price like that leads to more people getting into her music, it's all for the better. She deserves it.

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 17:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Baffling, pointless review on Tinymixtapes of the live show:

The show is sold out, but most fans are waiting to pile in after the opening act, Grouper — a one-woman showcase of bullshit. Imagine Enya making airport symphonies for hipsters. I try to salvage something from the fuzzy reverb and her long, lonely wails, but I can’t stop picturing her masturbating in front of a full-length mirror. Self-indulgence, indeed.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 04:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

...but you write for tinymixtapes.com

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Z S), Friday, 12 June 2009 04:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

ugh.

picture me lolin' (Alan N), Friday, 12 June 2009 16:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

...but you write for tinymixtapes.com

Really? That's news to me!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

if you're going to choose such an ambiguous username...

suggestzybandias (jim), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

Hahaha, no no, that was meant as a response to the reviewer, for some reason. I saw my comment this morning and wondered what the hell I was talking about, because I don't really have any beef with tinymixtapes.com.

That AOL sonned thread has me thinking about who I do and do not have beefs with today.

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Z S), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

it's kinda weird with reviews like that where you can't tell if the reviewer is trying to be funny... or if they're just trying to come up with the most awe-inspiring humorless zings to satisfy their explosive rage at the act in question.

guammls (QE II), Friday, 12 June 2009 19:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

I don't really mind Enya as a reference (Enya is pretty awesome imo tho) and I have been digging pretty heavily on Dead Deer for the last couple weeks.

❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Friday, 12 June 2009 20:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

Enya making airport symphonies for hipsters is the kind of stuff my friends say about the downtempo balearic cheeze i listen to. it kind of goes hand in hand with "elevator music for grad students", a term which used to bug me but i think i'm ok with it know

guammls (QE II), Friday, 12 June 2009 20:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

Hahaha, no no, that was meant as a response to the reviewer, for some reason.

Ah, makes sense now. I laughed out loud. Nice one.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 20:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

WAY THEIR CREPT and DRAGGING A DEAD DEER are two of my favorite records right now. Is there any other stuff out there like this? Melodic, atmospheric, experimental, droning, and emotional?

dreamsonvhs, Friday, 12 June 2009 23:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

this album is kinda staggered by the one two punch of heavy water and stuck

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 21:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

dead deer obv

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 21:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

I really wish we could edit the title of this thread!

PIN number at the ATM Machine (Z S), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 22:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Video for HOLD THE WAY

http://www.thefader.com/2009/10/07/video-grouper-hold-the-way/

dreamsonvhs, Thursday, 8 October 2009 16:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

Should have mentioned I saw her last month as the final act of the On Land festival. Entrancing, mesmerizing, etc -- if a band like School of Seven Bells is (mostly) about shoegaze as propulsion and pop, Grouper is (mostly) about it as immersion and flow.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 October 2009 16:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

Gooooorgeous live set over at the free music archive http://freemusicarchive.org/curator/WFMU/blog/ATP-NY_2009_Grouper_MP3 From ATP last month ...

tylerw, Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

saw her columbia university when she was in NY for ATP. was great. loved the swirls of white noise running through the whole set.

( - _ - ); (Alan N), Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

I'm pretty sure I'm going to splash out and see her on Sunday, based on these last few comments. Anybody disagree with the decision?

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Friday, 30 October 2009 00:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

Glasgow then? See you there!

krakow, Friday, 30 October 2009 09:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Didn't know there were UK/Euro dates! Would love to see her live. Don't think I can make any of them, sadly, but I'll have to think about it.

I have fallen in love with (mp3s of) her tour split 7" from last year with City Center and it's totally out of print, alas. Anyone know if there is a tour release this time round, so I can act more promptly?

ein fisch schwimmt im wasser · fisch im wasser durstig (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 30 October 2009 12:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

Are the new myspace tracks "Hold The Way" and "Vessel" available to download anywhere?

plazzTT, Friday, 30 October 2009 12:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

(just noticed Vessel EP coming out in Late 2009)

plazzTT, Friday, 30 October 2009 12:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

she had this 7" when I saw her but not the city center split:

http://www.discogs.com/Grouper-He-Knows-He-Knows-He-Knows/release/1771400

( - _ - ); (Alan N), Friday, 30 October 2009 13:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

as a 7"? I bought that from her as a 3" CD.

sleeve, Friday, 30 October 2009 21:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

yep, as a 7"

( - _ - ); (Alan N), Saturday, 31 October 2009 21:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

Went to see her play on Friday night. It was pleasant if unremarkable, she only played for 40 minutes too.

Number None, Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

I don't get that complaint. Forty minutes is a perfectly reasonable amount of time for a set, imo.

Trip Maker, Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

if you only have 1 album and only charge a fiver then maybe

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

Wasn't really a complaint, more of an observation. It was actually a double headline show with some noise dude, tickets were 12.50. It was BYOB though so worked out cheap enough.

Number None, Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

Really liking the Raum record - Liz Harris with Jefre Cantu-Ledesma who used to be in Tarantel and who also runs the Root Strata label iirc

but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 13:49 (10 months ago) Permalink

That sounds cool, have seen people here and there saying that the record is good but didn't know who was behind it. May try to track that down.

grandavis, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 14:18 (10 months ago) Permalink

It's on Spotify if that helps?
http://open.spotify.com/album/0u9EF2bbsELJvn9ibBzUm7

Also I obviously meant Tarentel not Tarantel

but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 14:21 (10 months ago) Permalink

Cool, I will take a listen. Thanks!

grandavis, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 14:24 (10 months ago) Permalink

http://vimeo.com/77818746

love mike love (ko komo) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 02:43 (10 months ago) Permalink

Is Raum on iTunes?

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 11:43 (10 months ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

i think i read a mirroring interview where they talk about listening to a lot of julee cruise before making the record. & it is such a totally crazy lens to look at the record through! like it sorta sounds a lot like it while being just so not.

schlump, Monday, 21 April 2014 19:21 (5 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

latest grouper thing-----
https://vimeo.com/94267838

schlump, Friday, 9 May 2014 20:40 (4 months ago) Permalink

i got t hat roy montgomery compilation released by liz harris's lable. it's phenomenal.

espring (amateurist), Friday, 9 May 2014 20:45 (4 months ago) Permalink

label

espring (amateurist), Friday, 9 May 2014 20:45 (4 months ago) Permalink

oh cool. i never really cracked him, i know a bunch of people here are big fans. maybe i should get it.

schlump, Friday, 9 May 2014 21:45 (4 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Yeah, still fucking awesome.
This is off the newest one:

Heavy Water/I'd Rather be Sleeping

I adore this song.

Cover pic of Dead Deer really unnerves me.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 12 June 2014 20:42 (3 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

https://soundcloud.com/ninja-tune/the-bug-void-feat-liz-harris

^ dunno if this has been posted elsewhere already

john wahey (NickB), Monday, 21 July 2014 09:14 (2 months ago) Permalink

kind of a massive attack with liz fraser move by kevin martin, good track though

john wahey (NickB), Monday, 21 July 2014 09:17 (2 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

New album announced. Another new/old album... but newer/old than than last new/older one.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 14 August 2014 15:56 (1 month ago) Permalink

a friend at ZDB played me a few moments from it last year. definitely not more of the same. very beautiful.

Milton Parker, Thursday, 14 August 2014 16:54 (1 month ago) Permalink

(not like I would even complain even if it were more of the same -- I loved 'AIA')

Milton Parker, Thursday, 14 August 2014 17:28 (1 month ago) Permalink

This is exactly the sort of thing I am hoping for every time this thread gets bumped. Excellent.

mirostones, Thursday, 14 August 2014 23:35 (1 month ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Gorgeous song from the new album premiering on Vogue (!)

ambient yacht god (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 14:40 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

i now think of grouper every time i see spurs play

john wahey (NickB), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 14:53 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

john wahey (NickB), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 14:53 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

sometimes read this thread title and think it says GROUPER "Under Rug Swept"

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 15:37 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

thanks lbi, really beautiful

schlump, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:07 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

i got the man who died in his boat recently, good stuff

am0n, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:29 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

I think the Mirrorring album is my favorite thing I've heard from Liz Harris.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:46 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

^ me too!

john wahey (NickB), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 19:07 (3 weeks ago) Permalink


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