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"Dragging A Dead Deer Up A Hill"

Best album title ever too!!!

jonathan - stl, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

I just ordered the re-release of the split with Inca Ore from Aquarius. Can't wait.

Have you got it yet? Is it good? Did you order it from her website? How much was it?

Yeah, I'm still really, really into the new one. It only sounds better as it gets colder and more leaves fall off the trees.

Z S, Sunday, 5 October 2008 19:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

nice

czn (cozwn), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 13:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

vaguely recall a mention on ILX and an Inca Ore connection (blown away Ms. Saelens live recently, her LP one of few sweet spots of '08 for me)...

must investigate further!

also, this Grouper LP punching well above it's weight in obscurity here http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/2008

fandango, Sunday, 14 December 2008 08:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

The inca ore and grouper split is from 2007. It's ok, sort of a bridge between her first records and the minimalistic approach of guitar/voice style that she used on 'dragging a dead dear'.

Moka, Sunday, 14 December 2008 09:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/inca_ore___grouper/split/

Moka, Sunday, 14 December 2008 09:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

Has anybody deciphered the lyrics to 'heavy water/I'd rather be sleeping'? - so far I can only make up: 'love is enormous / it's lifting me up / i'd rather be sleeping / i'd rather fall in your tidal waves / right where the deepest currents pull'

Moka, Monday, 22 December 2008 07:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

this album ! :-O

really really good.

fandango, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

If this was a dude, you wouldn't care

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, June 23, 2008 2:43 AM

(Z S) (Z S), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

If she was a dude she would still be 1000x more interesting than Fleet Fuxxes

fandango, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

^^real talk. 'Dead Deer' is on my top ten list of the year, but I don't know what she looks like (if looks are what's implied). And well, imagining the vocals as coming from a he, well that's just silly.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 22 December 2008 23:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

btw, I wasn't quoting that as in "I agree with this", I was quoting that as in

(Z S) (Z S), Monday, 22 December 2008 23:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

I want to say something about how this album unfolds it's pleasures like a flower, at about the same speed, without it sounding dirty.

Possibly the most gorgously intimate and non "produced" sounding thing I've heard all year too. She might as well be in the room.

fandango, Sunday, 28 December 2008 23:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

This goes down well with a copy of Chris Ware's graphic novel The Smartest Kid on Earth and my Mom's fried boneless fish.

dreamsonvhs, Saturday, 11 April 2009 07:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

If this was a dude, you wouldn't care

Plenty of us care about Sonic Boom!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 11 April 2009 09:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I picked this up on a whim today from amazon's mp3 store, where it's on sale for $1.99. It's remarkably gorgeous!

Euler, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 14:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

by "this" I mean the Dragging a Dead Deer album

Euler, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 14:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

Deeply amused by "fart alert"

Shannon Whirry & the Bad Brains, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 16:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

That's a damn good price (I paid $14.99 retail) and almost makes me want to switch over to buying in digital format... but not really. xpost

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 17:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

That's exactly my sentiment, ilxor. But if a crazy low price like that leads to more people getting into her music, it's all for the better. She deserves it.

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 17:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Baffling, pointless review on Tinymixtapes of the live show:

The show is sold out, but most fans are waiting to pile in after the opening act, Grouper — a one-woman showcase of bullshit. Imagine Enya making airport symphonies for hipsters. I try to salvage something from the fuzzy reverb and her long, lonely wails, but I can’t stop picturing her masturbating in front of a full-length mirror. Self-indulgence, indeed.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 04:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

...but you write for tinymixtapes.com

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Z S), Friday, 12 June 2009 04:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

ugh.

picture me lolin' (Alan N), Friday, 12 June 2009 16:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

...but you write for tinymixtapes.com

Really? That's news to me!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

if you're going to choose such an ambiguous username...

suggestzybandias (jim), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

Hahaha, no no, that was meant as a response to the reviewer, for some reason. I saw my comment this morning and wondered what the hell I was talking about, because I don't really have any beef with tinymixtapes.com.

That AOL sonned thread has me thinking about who I do and do not have beefs with today.

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Z S), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

it's kinda weird with reviews like that where you can't tell if the reviewer is trying to be funny... or if they're just trying to come up with the most awe-inspiring humorless zings to satisfy their explosive rage at the act in question.

guammls (QE II), Friday, 12 June 2009 19:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

I don't really mind Enya as a reference (Enya is pretty awesome imo tho) and I have been digging pretty heavily on Dead Deer for the last couple weeks.

❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Friday, 12 June 2009 20:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

Enya making airport symphonies for hipsters is the kind of stuff my friends say about the downtempo balearic cheeze i listen to. it kind of goes hand in hand with "elevator music for grad students", a term which used to bug me but i think i'm ok with it know

guammls (QE II), Friday, 12 June 2009 20:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

Hahaha, no no, that was meant as a response to the reviewer, for some reason.

Ah, makes sense now. I laughed out loud. Nice one.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 20:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

WAY THEIR CREPT and DRAGGING A DEAD DEER are two of my favorite records right now. Is there any other stuff out there like this? Melodic, atmospheric, experimental, droning, and emotional?

dreamsonvhs, Friday, 12 June 2009 23:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

this album is kinda staggered by the one two punch of heavy water and stuck

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 21:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

dead deer obv

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 21:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

I really wish we could edit the title of this thread!

PIN number at the ATM Machine (Z S), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 22:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Video for HOLD THE WAY

http://www.thefader.com/2009/10/07/video-grouper-hold-the-way/

dreamsonvhs, Thursday, 8 October 2009 16:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

Should have mentioned I saw her last month as the final act of the On Land festival. Entrancing, mesmerizing, etc -- if a band like School of Seven Bells is (mostly) about shoegaze as propulsion and pop, Grouper is (mostly) about it as immersion and flow.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 October 2009 16:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

Gooooorgeous live set over at the free music archive http://freemusicarchive.org/curator/WFMU/blog/ATP-NY_2009_Grouper_MP3 From ATP last month ...

tylerw, Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

saw her columbia university when she was in NY for ATP. was great. loved the swirls of white noise running through the whole set.

( - _ - ); (Alan N), Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

I'm pretty sure I'm going to splash out and see her on Sunday, based on these last few comments. Anybody disagree with the decision?

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Friday, 30 October 2009 00:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

Glasgow then? See you there!

krakow, Friday, 30 October 2009 09:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Didn't know there were UK/Euro dates! Would love to see her live. Don't think I can make any of them, sadly, but I'll have to think about it.

I have fallen in love with (mp3s of) her tour split 7" from last year with City Center and it's totally out of print, alas. Anyone know if there is a tour release this time round, so I can act more promptly?

ein fisch schwimmt im wasser · fisch im wasser durstig (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 30 October 2009 12:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

Are the new myspace tracks "Hold The Way" and "Vessel" available to download anywhere?

plazzTT, Friday, 30 October 2009 12:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

(just noticed Vessel EP coming out in Late 2009)

plazzTT, Friday, 30 October 2009 12:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

she had this 7" when I saw her but not the city center split:

http://www.discogs.com/Grouper-He-Knows-He-Knows-He-Knows/release/1771400

( - _ - ); (Alan N), Friday, 30 October 2009 13:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

as a 7"? I bought that from her as a 3" CD.

sleeve, Friday, 30 October 2009 21:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

yep, as a 7"

( - _ - ); (Alan N), Saturday, 31 October 2009 21:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

Went to see her play on Friday night. It was pleasant if unremarkable, she only played for 40 minutes too.

Number None, Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

I don't get that complaint. Forty minutes is a perfectly reasonable amount of time for a set, imo.

Trip Maker, Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

if you only have 1 album and only charge a fiver then maybe

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

Wasn't really a complaint, more of an observation. It was actually a double headline show with some noise dude, tickets were 12.50. It was BYOB though so worked out cheap enough.

Number None, Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

i'll have to check it out. but yeah, helen (so far) sounds sorta in the vein of bands like belong (a high compliment imo) - i could see them doing something pretty amazing given the space of a full length

Z S, Friday, 13 September 2013 23:16 (7 months ago) Permalink

ha I kinda wrote that dreaming that I could be breaking it to you; yeah, a kinda echoed-out DEMONA on a split seven inch inside YETI magazine a few issues back, probably still gettable online at yetipublishing.com. it's really good.

@twitizensforlemonlipbalm (schlump), Friday, 13 September 2013 23:16 (7 months ago) Permalink

I forget where but I remember reading Liz talk about her affection for that Stephen lp on flying nun, & it feels kinda not a million miles away from her playing with those kinda skewed pop structures

@twitizensforlemonlipbalm (schlump), Friday, 13 September 2013 23:18 (7 months ago) Permalink

so this is really great, huh. it is funny, she played here, a few months ago, & i have seen her on & off for awhile now, & before, when the last two records came out, but i remember this time her finishing with moon is sharp & this long kinda burnt-out coda of her just running the chord progression of it into the ground, like some kind of disastrously malfunctioning engine, & at the same time as it was as kind of mellow & not-hard-edged as any of her stuff, it was simultaneously so heavy & vicious. we left & got to have that discussion where someone is like it's actually really punk & somebody else agrees, cause it really was. & it's funny hearing this now - the grouper dna, that she's slowly stretching these lines out over the fast guitars - but it feels of a piece with where she was at, kinda.

also i feel like underratedaerosmith would vibe with this.

@twitizensforlemonlipbalm (schlump), Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:31 (7 months ago) Permalink

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/felt-this-way-dying-all-time/id703325022

if anybody knows if this exists physically i would like to buy it

― @twitizensforlemonlipbalm (schlump), Friday, September 13, 2013

I asked http://www.volcanictongue.com and they replied to say...
We'll have it in 1-2 weeks, keep an eye on the updates as we'll announce it there when they're in!

Barnaby, Hardly, Monday, 16 September 2013 10:19 (7 months ago) Permalink

hey thank you man
what a fun excuse to go to volcanic tongue

@twitizensforlemonlipbalm (schlump), Monday, 16 September 2013 14:45 (7 months ago) Permalink

No problem.

I just got a copy from these guys...
http://www.discogs.com/seller/time-lag-records

Barnaby, Hardly, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 03:27 (6 months ago) Permalink

ugh, this is SO GOOD

Z S, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 03:03 (6 months ago) Permalink

i am still looking for somewhere to buy this & searched twitter for "dying all the time" & just found people complaining about ios7

schlump, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:47 (6 months ago) Permalink

dropping a wild & indulgent $10 on this inc shipping from @steadysounds in richmond, if anyone is still hurtin'

schlump, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:35 (6 months ago) Permalink

i don't see it listed on the steadysounds website! i'm hurtin'!

Z S, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:38 (6 months ago) Permalink

nuh UH!, z S!, you gotta twit them up! if you check their account you will see me liaising with their Social Media Accounts & Branding Manager about such a transaction within the last five minutes. i paypal'd.

schlump, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:39 (6 months ago) Permalink

Include message to retailer:
please send 3.5" of this release to my buddy z s, thank you

schlump, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:40 (6 months ago) Permalink

awesome, i just sent them a twit!

Z S, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:59 (6 months ago) Permalink

got it! (plus Cover the Windows) for $27 including shipping. thanks for the pro tip schlump!

Z S, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:01 (6 months ago) Permalink

really glad you got hooked up

feeling this:

ugh, this is SO GOOD

― Z S, Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:03 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bass playing totally has that one-too-many-cups-of-coffee vibe, it's so fun

schlump, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:15 (6 months ago) Permalink

Just spotted that Time Lag are selling their last copy on Discogs for $25.

The copy they sold me two days ago was $12.

Barnaby, Hardly, Thursday, 26 September 2013 07:06 (6 months ago) Permalink

60 bucks on discogs now. ugh. really wanted this

illegalblues, Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:58 (6 months ago) Permalink

gross

i remember when a i a came out, boomkat making them £20 each; this isn't even necessarily an example of the most explosive upselling or anything but at the same time it's such a bummer considering that her records seem to be produced according to this awkward but idealistic ecosystem in which they're small-run but reliably re-pressed affordable lps

schlump, Thursday, 26 September 2013 16:01 (6 months ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

Just in at Volcanic Tongue, have tried to order. They said it was on on their Instagram 4 hours ago so am hopefulish. £10.99 for a 7" but fuck it.

ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Friday, 25 October 2013 18:20 (5 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Really liking the Raum record - Liz Harris with Jefre Cantu-Ledesma who used to be in Tarantel and who also runs the Root Strata label iirc

but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 13:49 (4 months ago) Permalink

That sounds cool, have seen people here and there saying that the record is good but didn't know who was behind it. May try to track that down.

grandavis, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 14:18 (4 months ago) Permalink

It's on Spotify if that helps?
http://open.spotify.com/album/0u9EF2bbsELJvn9ibBzUm7

Also I obviously meant Tarentel not Tarantel

but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 14:21 (4 months ago) Permalink

Cool, I will take a listen. Thanks!

grandavis, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 14:24 (4 months ago) Permalink

http://vimeo.com/77818746

love mike love (ko komo) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 02:43 (4 months ago) Permalink

Is Raum on iTunes?

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 11:43 (4 months ago) Permalink


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