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"Dragging A Dead Deer Up A Hill"

Best album title ever too!!!

jonathan - stl, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

I just ordered the re-release of the split with Inca Ore from Aquarius. Can't wait.

Have you got it yet? Is it good? Did you order it from her website? How much was it?

Yeah, I'm still really, really into the new one. It only sounds better as it gets colder and more leaves fall off the trees.

Z S, Sunday, 5 October 2008 19:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

nice

czn (cozwn), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 13:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

vaguely recall a mention on ILX and an Inca Ore connection (blown away Ms. Saelens live recently, her LP one of few sweet spots of '08 for me)...

must investigate further!

also, this Grouper LP punching well above it's weight in obscurity here http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/2008

fandango, Sunday, 14 December 2008 08:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

The inca ore and grouper split is from 2007. It's ok, sort of a bridge between her first records and the minimalistic approach of guitar/voice style that she used on 'dragging a dead dear'.

Moka, Sunday, 14 December 2008 09:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/inca_ore___grouper/split/

Moka, Sunday, 14 December 2008 09:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

Has anybody deciphered the lyrics to 'heavy water/I'd rather be sleeping'? - so far I can only make up: 'love is enormous / it's lifting me up / i'd rather be sleeping / i'd rather fall in your tidal waves / right where the deepest currents pull'

Moka, Monday, 22 December 2008 07:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

this album ! :-O

really really good.

fandango, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

If this was a dude, you wouldn't care

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, June 23, 2008 2:43 AM

(Z S) (Z S), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

If she was a dude she would still be 1000x more interesting than Fleet Fuxxes

fandango, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

^^real talk. 'Dead Deer' is on my top ten list of the year, but I don't know what she looks like (if looks are what's implied). And well, imagining the vocals as coming from a he, well that's just silly.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 22 December 2008 23:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

btw, I wasn't quoting that as in "I agree with this", I was quoting that as in

(Z S) (Z S), Monday, 22 December 2008 23:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

I want to say something about how this album unfolds it's pleasures like a flower, at about the same speed, without it sounding dirty.

Possibly the most gorgously intimate and non "produced" sounding thing I've heard all year too. She might as well be in the room.

fandango, Sunday, 28 December 2008 23:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

This goes down well with a copy of Chris Ware's graphic novel The Smartest Kid on Earth and my Mom's fried boneless fish.

dreamsonvhs, Saturday, 11 April 2009 07:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

If this was a dude, you wouldn't care

Plenty of us care about Sonic Boom!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 11 April 2009 09:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

I picked this up on a whim today from amazon's mp3 store, where it's on sale for $1.99. It's remarkably gorgeous!

Euler, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 14:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

by "this" I mean the Dragging a Dead Deer album

Euler, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 14:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

Deeply amused by "fart alert"

Shannon Whirry & the Bad Brains, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 16:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

That's a damn good price (I paid $14.99 retail) and almost makes me want to switch over to buying in digital format... but not really. xpost

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 17:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

That's exactly my sentiment, ilxor. But if a crazy low price like that leads to more people getting into her music, it's all for the better. She deserves it.

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 17:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Baffling, pointless review on Tinymixtapes of the live show:

The show is sold out, but most fans are waiting to pile in after the opening act, Grouper — a one-woman showcase of bullshit. Imagine Enya making airport symphonies for hipsters. I try to salvage something from the fuzzy reverb and her long, lonely wails, but I can’t stop picturing her masturbating in front of a full-length mirror. Self-indulgence, indeed.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 04:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

...but you write for tinymixtapes.com

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Z S), Friday, 12 June 2009 04:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

ugh.

original bgm, Friday, 12 June 2009 16:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

...but you write for tinymixtapes.com

Really? That's news to me!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

if you're going to choose such an ambiguous username...

suggestzybandias (jim), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hahaha, no no, that was meant as a response to the reviewer, for some reason. I saw my comment this morning and wondered what the hell I was talking about, because I don't really have any beef with tinymixtapes.com.

That AOL sonned thread has me thinking about who I do and do not have beefs with today.

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Z S), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

it's kinda weird with reviews like that where you can't tell if the reviewer is trying to be funny... or if they're just trying to come up with the most awe-inspiring humorless zings to satisfy their explosive rage at the act in question.

guammls (QE II), Friday, 12 June 2009 19:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't really mind Enya as a reference (Enya is pretty awesome imo tho) and I have been digging pretty heavily on Dead Deer for the last couple weeks.

❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Friday, 12 June 2009 20:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

Enya making airport symphonies for hipsters is the kind of stuff my friends say about the downtempo balearic cheeze i listen to. it kind of goes hand in hand with "elevator music for grad students", a term which used to bug me but i think i'm ok with it know

guammls (QE II), Friday, 12 June 2009 20:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hahaha, no no, that was meant as a response to the reviewer, for some reason.

Ah, makes sense now. I laughed out loud. Nice one.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 20:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

WAY THEIR CREPT and DRAGGING A DEAD DEER are two of my favorite records right now. Is there any other stuff out there like this? Melodic, atmospheric, experimental, droning, and emotional?

dreamsonvhs, Friday, 12 June 2009 23:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

this album is kinda staggered by the one two punch of heavy water and stuck

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 21:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

dead deer obv

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 21:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

I really wish we could edit the title of this thread!

PIN number at the ATM Machine (Z S), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 22:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Video for HOLD THE WAY

http://www.thefader.com/2009/10/07/video-grouper-hold-the-way/

dreamsonvhs, Thursday, 8 October 2009 16:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

Should have mentioned I saw her last month as the final act of the On Land festival. Entrancing, mesmerizing, etc -- if a band like School of Seven Bells is (mostly) about shoegaze as propulsion and pop, Grouper is (mostly) about it as immersion and flow.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 October 2009 16:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Gooooorgeous live set over at the free music archive http://freemusicarchive.org/curator/WFMU/blog/ATP-NY_2009_Grouper_MP3 From ATP last month ...

tylerw, Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

saw her columbia university when she was in NY for ATP. was great. loved the swirls of white noise running through the whole set.

original bgm, Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

I'm pretty sure I'm going to splash out and see her on Sunday, based on these last few comments. Anybody disagree with the decision?

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Friday, 30 October 2009 00:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

Glasgow then? See you there!

krakow, Friday, 30 October 2009 09:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

Didn't know there were UK/Euro dates! Would love to see her live. Don't think I can make any of them, sadly, but I'll have to think about it.

I have fallen in love with (mp3s of) her tour split 7" from last year with City Center and it's totally out of print, alas. Anyone know if there is a tour release this time round, so I can act more promptly?

ein fisch schwimmt im wasser · fisch im wasser durstig (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 30 October 2009 12:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Are the new myspace tracks "Hold The Way" and "Vessel" available to download anywhere?

plazzTT, Friday, 30 October 2009 12:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

(just noticed Vessel EP coming out in Late 2009)

plazzTT, Friday, 30 October 2009 12:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

she had this 7" when I saw her but not the city center split:

http://www.discogs.com/Grouper-He-Knows-He-Knows-He-Knows/release/1771400

original bgm, Friday, 30 October 2009 13:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

as a 7"? I bought that from her as a 3" CD.

sleeve, Friday, 30 October 2009 21:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

yep, as a 7"

original bgm, Saturday, 31 October 2009 21:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

Went to see her play on Friday night. It was pleasant if unremarkable, she only played for 40 minutes too.

Number None, Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't get that complaint. Forty minutes is a perfectly reasonable amount of time for a set, imo.

Trip Maker, Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

if you only have 1 album and only charge a fiver then maybe

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

Wasn't really a complaint, more of an observation. It was actually a double headline show with some noise dude, tickets were 12.50. It was BYOB though so worked out cheap enough.

Number None, Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

Fantastic video. Been listening to this single pretty much non stop for the last 24 hours. Transcendental.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 22 December 2016 21:08 (one month ago) Permalink

@schlump, '7" (sold out) BC copies --- distros and stores will have it: Forced Exposure, Reckless, Boomkat, Mississippi, Little Axe, Exiled.'

schlump, Friday, 23 December 2016 01:53 (one month ago) Permalink

rough shot at the lyrics to 'Headache'

My mother once told me,
'She walks into the ocean'
Didn't want it, just kidding 'til we're rising well
Wanted to the heaven closer to love
Why's this costume weighing me down?

And my head hurts
And their sails turn

Fire in me enormous
Try my best when I'm alone lock it
I realize it won't
Walking in the deep end
Flying lights on the back of my eyelid
Blood is lucky blood in me

And my head hurts
And their sails turn
Flying lights on the back of my eyelid
Blood is lucky blood in me turns

flappy bird, Friday, 23 December 2016 06:37 (one month ago) Permalink

lil starfire moment

schlump, Friday, 23 December 2016 16:14 (one month ago) Permalink

Why did you choose to self-release Paradise Valley, alongside a reprint of Ruins? Is there a freedom in the self-release that’s appealing to you?

I love the process; it makes me feel good to have a routine, some control, a craft. It must relate back to where I come from as a print maker and artist. Have always been more comfortable with sharing those skills than I am sharing sound. So, it’s a less stressful part of making music; that is one reason I cling to it.

Feels good to be protective of this music and my relationship to it. Freedom to go as slow as I want, meter the weight of it in hand, disregard the name and figure a little, focus on the resonance of the final object, choose to do less promotion. Self releasing does not allow big quantities to be made. And it takes more time. More attention is needed. I like that practice.

schlump, Friday, 23 December 2016 22:58 (one month ago) Permalink

^ I can respect that, but it's hard to believe there can't be some aspect of marketing (supply and demand) to this.

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Friday, 23 December 2016 22:59 (one month ago) Permalink

Does this mean we can expect a new Grouper album in 2017?

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Friday, 23 December 2016 23:40 (one month ago) Permalink

There are days where I think the AIA double album is my favorite ever.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Friday, 23 December 2016 23:41 (one month ago) Permalink

Sorry for shitposting but the new one sounds like an abandoned liz phair demo from '92

calstars, Friday, 23 December 2016 23:43 (one month ago) Permalink

the interview i quoted mentions these songs are from 2012 !, + i think when albums come out has been similarly quantum. i saw her sometime this year & she played all new material + one song from ruins rearranged. it was rly beautiful.

i can't get w a marketing/supply & demand critique bc supply .......................... did not meet demand ................................................................................................................. lol

schlump, Saturday, 24 December 2016 00:01 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah schlump, i'm talking out of my ass, apologies

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Saturday, 24 December 2016 00:04 (one month ago) Permalink

sry 2 thread police guy
idk if it is q the same w 7"s but she is v diligent abt reissuing lps i think, so it is frustrating to miss out but eventually you get like a fourth pressing or w/e
i get way more bummed by boomkat taking veblen pricing strategies
tho maybe i'm wrong there too + it is a lot of work to answer all the enquiries &c
who knows
feels so nice to hear new grouper

schlump, Saturday, 24 December 2016 00:27 (one month ago) Permalink

Somehow I got one of the last ten she was selling on bandcamp, so I'm not complaining for once!

Evan, Saturday, 24 December 2016 00:37 (one month ago) Permalink

sweet interview, thanks for sharing schlump!

flappy bird, Saturday, 24 December 2016 03:52 (one month ago) Permalink

Fuck, I LOVE Headache. Just gorgeous.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 04:09 (one month ago) Permalink

Came here to drunkenly post about how great Alien Observer is. I didn't even know there was a new single people rated so much.

AIA is a great couple of records though. The sky here is bright with cold at midnight. I think that's what made me put them on.

kraudive, Saturday, 14 January 2017 00:23 (one month ago) Permalink

Perfect.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Saturday, 14 January 2017 00:38 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

new grouper single https://grouper.bandcamp.com/album/water-people

if you're reading this on feb 3 i think grouper's proceeds go to NoDAPL and bandcamp proceeds go to the ACLU

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 February 2017 17:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Rerelease of an older single:

https://www.discogs.com/Grouper-Water-People/master/878532

But yes, nice to see!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 February 2017 17:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

ah yes

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 February 2017 18:04 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Nice! Water People is a fantastic song.

flappy bird, Friday, 3 February 2017 18:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

two older releases on Spotify that I hadn't previously noticed - Violet Replacement part 1 and 2

Both one album length track

I am using your worlds, Friday, 3 February 2017 23:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i fell asleep to both of those (along w/ alien observer) every night for a year

flappy bird, Friday, 3 February 2017 23:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

part of that was released on vinyl:

https://www.discogs.com/Grouper-Sleep-Fragment/release/3808592

so good

sleeve, Friday, 3 February 2017 23:06 (two weeks ago) Permalink

man i'd ruin a needle so quick with that one

flappy bird, Friday, 3 February 2017 23:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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