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"Dragging A Dead Deer Up A Hill"

Best album title ever too!!!

jonathan - stl, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

I just ordered the re-release of the split with Inca Ore from Aquarius. Can't wait.

Have you got it yet? Is it good? Did you order it from her website? How much was it?

Yeah, I'm still really, really into the new one. It only sounds better as it gets colder and more leaves fall off the trees.

Z S, Sunday, 5 October 2008 19:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

nice

czn (cozwn), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 13:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

vaguely recall a mention on ILX and an Inca Ore connection (blown away Ms. Saelens live recently, her LP one of few sweet spots of '08 for me)...

must investigate further!

also, this Grouper LP punching well above it's weight in obscurity here http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/2008

fandango, Sunday, 14 December 2008 08:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

The inca ore and grouper split is from 2007. It's ok, sort of a bridge between her first records and the minimalistic approach of guitar/voice style that she used on 'dragging a dead dear'.

Moka, Sunday, 14 December 2008 09:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/inca_ore___grouper/split/

Moka, Sunday, 14 December 2008 09:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

Has anybody deciphered the lyrics to 'heavy water/I'd rather be sleeping'? - so far I can only make up: 'love is enormous / it's lifting me up / i'd rather be sleeping / i'd rather fall in your tidal waves / right where the deepest currents pull'

Moka, Monday, 22 December 2008 07:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

this album ! :-O

really really good.

fandango, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

If this was a dude, you wouldn't care

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, June 23, 2008 2:43 AM

(Z S) (Z S), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

If she was a dude she would still be 1000x more interesting than Fleet Fuxxes

fandango, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

^^real talk. 'Dead Deer' is on my top ten list of the year, but I don't know what she looks like (if looks are what's implied). And well, imagining the vocals as coming from a he, well that's just silly.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 22 December 2008 23:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

btw, I wasn't quoting that as in "I agree with this", I was quoting that as in

(Z S) (Z S), Monday, 22 December 2008 23:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

I want to say something about how this album unfolds it's pleasures like a flower, at about the same speed, without it sounding dirty.

Possibly the most gorgously intimate and non "produced" sounding thing I've heard all year too. She might as well be in the room.

fandango, Sunday, 28 December 2008 23:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

This goes down well with a copy of Chris Ware's graphic novel The Smartest Kid on Earth and my Mom's fried boneless fish.

dreamsonvhs, Saturday, 11 April 2009 07:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

If this was a dude, you wouldn't care

Plenty of us care about Sonic Boom!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 11 April 2009 09:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I picked this up on a whim today from amazon's mp3 store, where it's on sale for $1.99. It's remarkably gorgeous!

Euler, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 14:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

by "this" I mean the Dragging a Dead Deer album

Euler, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 14:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

Deeply amused by "fart alert"

Shannon Whirry & the Bad Brains, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 16:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

That's a damn good price (I paid $14.99 retail) and almost makes me want to switch over to buying in digital format... but not really. xpost

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 17:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

That's exactly my sentiment, ilxor. But if a crazy low price like that leads to more people getting into her music, it's all for the better. She deserves it.

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 17:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Baffling, pointless review on Tinymixtapes of the live show:

The show is sold out, but most fans are waiting to pile in after the opening act, Grouper — a one-woman showcase of bullshit. Imagine Enya making airport symphonies for hipsters. I try to salvage something from the fuzzy reverb and her long, lonely wails, but I can’t stop picturing her masturbating in front of a full-length mirror. Self-indulgence, indeed.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 04:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

...but you write for tinymixtapes.com

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Z S), Friday, 12 June 2009 04:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

ugh.

original bgm, Friday, 12 June 2009 16:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

...but you write for tinymixtapes.com

Really? That's news to me!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

if you're going to choose such an ambiguous username...

suggestzybandias (jim), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

Hahaha, no no, that was meant as a response to the reviewer, for some reason. I saw my comment this morning and wondered what the hell I was talking about, because I don't really have any beef with tinymixtapes.com.

That AOL sonned thread has me thinking about who I do and do not have beefs with today.

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Z S), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

it's kinda weird with reviews like that where you can't tell if the reviewer is trying to be funny... or if they're just trying to come up with the most awe-inspiring humorless zings to satisfy their explosive rage at the act in question.

guammls (QE II), Friday, 12 June 2009 19:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

I don't really mind Enya as a reference (Enya is pretty awesome imo tho) and I have been digging pretty heavily on Dead Deer for the last couple weeks.

❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Friday, 12 June 2009 20:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

Enya making airport symphonies for hipsters is the kind of stuff my friends say about the downtempo balearic cheeze i listen to. it kind of goes hand in hand with "elevator music for grad students", a term which used to bug me but i think i'm ok with it know

guammls (QE II), Friday, 12 June 2009 20:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

Hahaha, no no, that was meant as a response to the reviewer, for some reason.

Ah, makes sense now. I laughed out loud. Nice one.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 20:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

WAY THEIR CREPT and DRAGGING A DEAD DEER are two of my favorite records right now. Is there any other stuff out there like this? Melodic, atmospheric, experimental, droning, and emotional?

dreamsonvhs, Friday, 12 June 2009 23:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

this album is kinda staggered by the one two punch of heavy water and stuck

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 21:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

dead deer obv

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 21:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

I really wish we could edit the title of this thread!

PIN number at the ATM Machine (Z S), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 22:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Video for HOLD THE WAY

http://www.thefader.com/2009/10/07/video-grouper-hold-the-way/

dreamsonvhs, Thursday, 8 October 2009 16:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

Should have mentioned I saw her last month as the final act of the On Land festival. Entrancing, mesmerizing, etc -- if a band like School of Seven Bells is (mostly) about shoegaze as propulsion and pop, Grouper is (mostly) about it as immersion and flow.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 October 2009 16:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

Gooooorgeous live set over at the free music archive http://freemusicarchive.org/curator/WFMU/blog/ATP-NY_2009_Grouper_MP3 From ATP last month ...

tylerw, Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

saw her columbia university when she was in NY for ATP. was great. loved the swirls of white noise running through the whole set.

original bgm, Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

I'm pretty sure I'm going to splash out and see her on Sunday, based on these last few comments. Anybody disagree with the decision?

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Friday, 30 October 2009 00:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

Glasgow then? See you there!

krakow, Friday, 30 October 2009 09:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

Didn't know there were UK/Euro dates! Would love to see her live. Don't think I can make any of them, sadly, but I'll have to think about it.

I have fallen in love with (mp3s of) her tour split 7" from last year with City Center and it's totally out of print, alas. Anyone know if there is a tour release this time round, so I can act more promptly?

ein fisch schwimmt im wasser · fisch im wasser durstig (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 30 October 2009 12:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

Are the new myspace tracks "Hold The Way" and "Vessel" available to download anywhere?

plazzTT, Friday, 30 October 2009 12:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

(just noticed Vessel EP coming out in Late 2009)

plazzTT, Friday, 30 October 2009 12:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

she had this 7" when I saw her but not the city center split:

http://www.discogs.com/Grouper-He-Knows-He-Knows-He-Knows/release/1771400

original bgm, Friday, 30 October 2009 13:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

as a 7"? I bought that from her as a 3" CD.

sleeve, Friday, 30 October 2009 21:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

yep, as a 7"

original bgm, Saturday, 31 October 2009 21:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

Went to see her play on Friday night. It was pleasant if unremarkable, she only played for 40 minutes too.

Number None, Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

I don't get that complaint. Forty minutes is a perfectly reasonable amount of time for a set, imo.

Trip Maker, Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

if you only have 1 album and only charge a fiver then maybe

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

Wasn't really a complaint, more of an observation. It was actually a double headline show with some noise dude, tickets were 12.50. It was BYOB though so worked out cheap enough.

Number None, Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

when I ordered it I said I was super-excited about the thunderstorm field recording CD and ms. harris suggested the idea!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 14 November 2014 05:48 (9 months ago) Permalink

so neat!
& thanks for passing that on.

schlump, Friday, 14 November 2014 06:55 (9 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Grouper announced a short European tour! http://www.factmag.com/2014/12/16/grouper-european-tour/

maarten, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 13:38 (8 months ago) Permalink

http://www.splicetoday.com/music/grouper-artist-of-the-decade

"Grouper music is something that is tapped into, not created. Harris’ gift in capturing the in-between states of our natural cycle is what puts her in rarefied air—it goes far beyond the relatively simple joys of being in love with a band, song or an artist’s persona. Grouper music is like peeking into the afterlife, or a parallel spiritual world that only affects us subliminally. The subliminal force of Grouper music has me convinced that Harris is merely a conduit for the voice of the universe; that the sound coming out of her pedals and tapes and guitars and keyboards is only passing through like the wind, waiting for her touch."

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 21:58 (8 months ago) Permalink

wow, simultaneously hyperbolic and condescending

maybe... she's just a good songwriter?

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 22:37 (8 months ago) Permalink

yeah would not be flattered to be called a conduit.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 04:36 (8 months ago) Permalink

Yeah but could be for worse things than the voice of the universe.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 25 December 2014 04:31 (8 months ago) Permalink

This remains the worst titled thread

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 December 2014 04:53 (8 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Heavy Water sounds like Benoit Pioulard

calstars, Sunday, 22 February 2015 17:09 (6 months ago) Permalink

wow, simultaneously hyperbolic and condescending

maybe... she's just a good songwriter?

― some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Tuesday, December 16, 2014 4:37 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm fairly sure that this is Spazz's way of saying she's a great songwriter.

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 22 February 2015 17:16 (6 months ago) Permalink

i need to listen to the new benoit pioulard - didn't he go full on ambient/instrumental with the new one? BP was always really frustrating for me. i have a couple of his records (the Precis and Temper collected 2LP thing that Kranky put out a while back), and saw him play once with Windy & Carl (some of the audience actually fell asleep!), but somehow it always felt like things never completely came together in his recorded output. his music is almost singularly in between spaces for me, and although i love the idea of that, in practice i end up turning the stereo and off and sitting in silence.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 22 February 2015 17:39 (6 months ago) Permalink

None of BP's albums are dramatically different from each other, but for the record Lasted is the best iteration of his sound. So if you like what he does generally speaking but feel like his records haven't clicked, that might be the one to try.

The new one is full ambient, apparently, but it's not out yet. Comes out in March I think.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 22 February 2015 21:30 (6 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

i finally dug into ruins and it leveled me. "clearing" is a tidal force. that song will be with me for the rest of my life.

also recently discovered julie byrne's 2014 album "rooms with walls and windows" which i would strongly recommend to grouper fans. it's a bit less, idk, spectral compared to grouper, but i've been really enjoying it. it puts me in an headspace that's adjacent to what harris' stuff does for me.

Clay, Monday, 27 April 2015 05:46 (4 months ago) Permalink

yeah that julie byrne album is great, you might want to check out Broken Twin's May as well

moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Monday, 27 April 2015 06:21 (4 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

YES

http://pitchfork.com/news/60270-groupers-liz-harris-announces-debut-album-from-dream-pop-band-helen-shares-motorcycle/

A couple years ago, Grouper's Liz Harris released one single by her dream-pop band, Helen. The band, also featuring Jed Bindeman (of Eternal Tapestry) and Scott Simmons (and someone named Helen credited with "back up vocals"), have now announced their debut album. The Original Faces is out September 4 via Kranky. Listen to "Motorcycle" above.

01 Ryder
02 Motorcycle
03 Covered in Shade
04 Felt This Way
05 Pass Me By
06 Right Outcome
07 Allison
08 Dying All the Time
09 Grace
10 City Breathing
11 Violet
12 The Original Faces

i'm at work so haven't had the chance to listen to the new song. but man, i really REALLY loved that little 7 inch they put out a couple years ago. can't wait to hear the full length

1992 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 13:56 (1 month ago) Permalink

ohhhhhhhh swooooooooooooooooooooon!

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 14:30 (1 month ago) Permalink

this sounds great!
w/ organ & tangled guitar grouper dna not so present in the first two songs.
hey maybe we get to go see helen shows

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 14:36 (1 month ago) Permalink

best band foto

feargal czukay (NickB), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 14:40 (1 month ago) Permalink

awesome, that track sounds like an early sarah records 7"

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 15:39 (1 month ago) Permalink

Love it!!!!

Evan, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 16:54 (1 month ago) Permalink

YES! "Dying All the Time" was fantastico.

List of people who are ready for woe and how we know this (seandalai), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 19:24 (1 month ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

another song is streaming!

http://www.thefourohfive.com/music/article/jump-into-the-gently-swaying-noise-of-violet-by-helen-143

plus it's not available for pre-order at http://www.kranky.net/

1993 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 August 2015 19:39 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I think you meant "now"

Evan, Thursday, 13 August 2015 19:43 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

mistakes were made, the zs story

1993 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 August 2015 19:46 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

this is so good

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Thursday, 13 August 2015 20:54 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

ty karl, this is hardchoral

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Thursday, 13 August 2015 20:55 (2 weeks ago) Permalink


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