ILM's Top 77 Albums of 2016

Many people released better and more exciting albums last year.

Bowie released far more albums than Tribe, so it's more difficult, unless Stereogum were to pay me, to rank it among his classics.

Whether Blackstar and We Got It From Here are good albums is a matter of opinion. I think they are.

Most of the time, I'm just "let people like what they want to" unless an artist (or their fanbase) really makes my skin crawl, at which point I derive great pleasure in telling people they're wrong. This doesn't seem to be the case with Rev and the Tribe album. Why shit on people for loving a record you admit is good?

Many people released better and more exciting albums last year.

That's fine that you think so. I disagree.

This didn't really occur to me when voting for Tribe but getting to the stage where a big bunch of people think a band's album released 25+ years since their debut is one of their best is another positive way to look at it. Rappers in their 40s being critically acclaimed like their equivalents in other genres commonly are is important right? Damn though I can't believe Killer Mike is only 5 years younger than Tip (who's also 1 year younger than the RZA and Jay)...

Thanks to you guys I'm now going to check out Weyes Blood in SF for Noise Pop in a couple weeks.

What I'm saying:

Per DJP,

Low End Theory/Midnight Marauders >> We Got It From Here >> all other music in 2016

Now either:

Low End Theory/Midnight Marauders >>>> all other music in 91/93

or

All other muisc in 91/93 >> all other music in 2016 (guesstimating how many pointers go here)

This is what I'm getting at. From the high praise he's giving LET/MM, I'm guessing he's arguing the former (tho I wouldn't actually even disagree with the katter personally now that I think about it)...regardless, I'm ready to be done with bedeviling him about his music tastes. My bad, completely!

all you pedants you must go

Music and cultural "taste" is backed up with correct arguments and facts, not "digging".

― Banaka™ (banaka), Thursday, 16 August 2012 01:09 (four years ago) Permalink

Most of the time, I'm just "let people like what they want to" unless an artist (or their fanbase) really makes my skin crawl, at which point I derive great pleasure in telling people they're wrong. This doesn't seem to be the case with Rev and the Tribe album. Why shit on people for loving a record you admit is good?

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, February 6, 2017 4:09 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Eh, I think it my be my distrust of nostalgia doubling down on things I myself have nostalgia, which for ATCQ is v much the case. But also I chafe at the idea that a legacy act's contemporary update is praised above the younger and fresher artists pushing at the boundaries of rap, when really ATCQ are barely playing catch up. They released work before that revolutionized the genre, but does anyone think We Got It From Here... is going to do that? That's the standard I'm holding them up to because I know what they've done before. Idk, I feel like in some ways it's my own esteem for them that prevents me from accepting this album as worthy of its laurels.

if you're comparing two things, comparing one of them against a set of different things is a different type of comparison

like if Kojak was on tv now, it might be better than all the crime tv shows, but not better than all shows, because we have genres that didn't exist then, right

Don't be so condescending. I'm saying it doesn't stack up against old Tribe albums or what other people are doing currently. It's completely possible to fail on both those measures.

i know it sting but maybe take yr mind off it by reasoning how one could think of chance as updated tribe

― r|t|c, Sunday, February 5, 2017 6:49 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its true tho, i dont expect we got it from here voters to understand

I just want to thank everyone who voted for Hannah Peel. This is a great, beautiful album.

Same here, surprised it doesn't seem to have got much attention elsewhere.

idk Do people really love the old Tribe albums because they "revolutionized the genre"? There was a hip hop album coming out every week or so in the early 90s that did that. I love them because they were dope as hell and re-listenable to the point that you didn't have to spend money on any other music for a month or so after they came out. But I guess if 17 year olds aren't citing WGITFH as inspiration in two years then it must have been a failure.

hehe, there is no questioning the logic of the Drugs A Money post - I like it

didn't like the new tribe too much, but looking at that all time top 10 ilx album poll albums list I found only one or two albums I really like, so I'm p sure I'm the one at fault here ;_;

that logic assumes that the transitive property applies to the space of music preference

I have a lot of misgivings about that last post tbh and I'm not really thrilled with my train of thought throughout this discussion, so I hope the other participants p much forgive me and permit a quick exit

I find Timmy Turner to be more interesting than any Migos song I've heard, btw

mmm, that's the wrong thread, isn't it. sorry.

lol same here tho

Fear of Men album is a huge omission - seems like it would be an ILM favorite if it had more exposure

heres my ballot:

a tribe called quest - we got it from here...thank you for your service
david bowie - blackstar
radiohead - a moon shaped pool
dexy's - let the record show: dexys do irish and country soul
leon vynehall - rojus
dorisburg - irrbloss
glenn branca - Symphony No. 13 (Hallucination City) for 100 Guitars
william tyler - modern country
goat - requiem
cass mccombs - mangy love
steve gunn - eyes on the lines
DIIV - is the is are
waveless - spirit island e.p.
happyness - tunnel vision on your part e.p.
dwight yoakam - guitar cadillacs etc etc
king - we are king
lambchop - flotus
factory floor - 25 25
fat white family - songs of our mothers
brian eno - the big ship
bombino - azel
v/a - the sound of durban vol. 1
kanye west - the life of pablo
africans with mainframes - kmt
Juan Atkins & Moritz von Oswald present Borderland - Transport

I would add Junior Boys and Omar-S if I was compiling the list now

Juan Atkins & Moritz von Oswald present Borderland - Transport

Didn't know this existed!....treehouse from a couple of years ago was great, I'll have a look out for this one

it's a good record you would like it saer

I was kind of under-thrilled by the s/t "Borderland" and need to check it out

full disclosure: I own nearly every recent MvO collaboration on vinyl

I was kind of under-thrilled by the s/t "Borderland" and need to check it out

I only really play Treehouse off it, I don't really remember the rest myself!

I was incorrect, this was the one I was unthrilled by but I'm giving it another go

that logic assumes that the transitive property applies to the space of music preference
even more logic!

wasn't suggesting the argument was "true" tho, just that there was something kinda funny, absurd about the pedantic rationality of it all - it struck a chord with me

btw if you have the opportunity to see moritz von oswald do a dj set, it's fun

this recent tribe album is their best one. duh. xp