U.S. Supreme Court: Post-Nino Edition

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Oregon Senator Jeff Merkeley has just stated he will personally filibuster any Trump nominee, regardless. I will probably be giving him some money very soon, along with my commendation.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 20:52 (seven years ago) link

he said that two days ago

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 20:52 (seven years ago) link

it seems like the question will be whether or not McConnell needs to invoke the nuclear option to get to 60 votes (which he may not have to if fake Dem assholes like Manchin go along w whoever Trump nominates, as they've indicated they have. although idk i don't think there are actually 8 Dem Senators as worthless as Manchin)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 20:54 (seven years ago) link

Munchkin is winner of the Joe Lieberman Award for Most Sycophantic Democratic Senator five years running

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 20:56 (seven years ago) link

that reminds me

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 20:56 (seven years ago) link

not to mention turning West Virginia into a giant runoff for petrochemicals as governor

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 20:57 (seven years ago) link

The speculation is that if he picks for a superficial reason, Gorsuch is taller and better looking and a "winner" type.

His main adviser looks like a potato someone dredged out of a restroom wastebasket.

Transformed From The Norm By The Nuclear Goop (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 21:00 (seven years ago) link

feel like a some point we're gonna have to poll ILXs best Bannon descriptor

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 21:02 (seven years ago) link

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𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link

wrong thread i guess

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 21:07 (seven years ago) link

so according to this (which I believe is referring to Reid's "parliamentary trick" that allowed him to change the filibuster rules w out invoking a super-majority) - McConnell would need 50 votes to undo the filibuster for SC nominees. Collins has already come out against it, so if the Dems could pick out just two other institutionally-minded GOP Senators (McCain, Graham, Hatch even?), would McConnell be stuck? Am I reading this right?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/on-the-death-of-the-senate-and-its-long-history-as-the-worlds-greatest-deliberative-body/2017/01/31/b99fcbda-e73a-11e6-bf6f-301b6b443624_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_pkcapitol-150pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.226cee0a4e2b

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 21:43 (seven years ago) link

I realize this is getting into real arcane senate rules, changing them mid-session etc.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 21:43 (seven years ago) link

that URL name is some David Broder bullshit

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 21:45 (seven years ago) link

not gonna argue on that point

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 21:46 (seven years ago) link

Only one Democrat seems likely to support Trump’s pick at this point, Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), a former governor who believes in strong executive authority and who comes from a state that Trump won by 42 percentage points.

“I’m not a filibuster-type guy,” Manchin said Monday.

^^ piss on this turd

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 21:46 (seven years ago) link

pee too good for him

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 21:48 (seven years ago) link

If it's good enough for Trump ...

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 22:14 (seven years ago) link

funny thing about this predicament is that if McConnell can't get rid of the filibuster and get the nominee approved, it really won't have anything to do with Trump's nominee - it will all be because of McConnell's shitty tactics blocking Garland, and ol Blobfish will have no one but himself to blame.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 22:16 (seven years ago) link

it'll be a huge test of his power as a Senator and a majority leader, and if he doesn't pull it off he's gonna look like a schmuck

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 22:18 (seven years ago) link

yeah that washington post headline is some bullshit. pretty sure a dude named mitch participated in the senates reputation going into the toilet about 18 months ago.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 22:27 (seven years ago) link

Nina Totenberg says 'various news sources' say it's Gorsuch

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 23:09 (seven years ago) link

Here we go.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 01:00 (seven years ago) link

It's Gorsuch.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 01:04 (seven years ago) link

I can't listen to Lindsay Graham's polite tiptoeing.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 01:28 (seven years ago) link

An actual lawyer and not Steve Bannon's coke dealer is besting my expectations tbh.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 01:29 (seven years ago) link

so wait did he actually say this out loud to people

In a 2005 speech at Case Western Reserve University, Gorsuch said that judges should strive "to apply the law as it is, focusing backward, not forward, and looking to text, structure, and history to decide what a reasonable reader at the time of the events in question would have understood the law to be—not to decide cases based on their own moral convictions or the policy consequences they believe might serve society best."[35]

phenomenal

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 01:31 (seven years ago) link

He attended Harvard Law with former President Barack Obama. On Tuesday, Obama's former ethics czar, Norm Eisen, another classmate, tweeted: "Hearing rumors Trump's likely Supreme Court pick is Neil Gorsuch, my (and President Obama's!) 1991 Harvard Law classmate.If so, a great guy!"

scott seward, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 01:32 (seven years ago) link

srsly Alfred everyone knew three hours ago, where is your obsessiveness?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 01:34 (seven years ago) link

originalism is the refuge of cowards and the intellecutally dishonest

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 01:36 (seven years ago) link

"you should make up a story about a cave man inside of your mind, and decide based on that, but definitely do not decide based on an imaginary person who lives in our time, or one that lives in the future."

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 01:43 (seven years ago) link

srsly Alfred everyone knew three hours ago, where is your obsessiveness?

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, January 31, 2017

you're a movie guy yet don't believe in building suspense?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 01:43 (seven years ago) link

I'm not sure "intellectually" is a modifier that applies to guys like this

also the Obama's ethics czar thing- so basically harvard choom gang?

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 01:44 (seven years ago) link

so if Reagan's dominated every GOP candidate from state to presidential level for the last 30 years, we're gonna hear about fucking Nino as jurisprudential lodestar for the next 60.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 01:45 (seven years ago) link

meritocracy just crushing it everywhere

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 01:46 (seven years ago) link

how many pages of opinions by the finalists do you think Yam read before deciding?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 01:48 (seven years ago) link

I tend to believe Obama did read the opinions of, god help us, federal court judges.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 01:56 (seven years ago) link

Even if Schumer and the Dems do what we want, they're not gonna pick anybody off. Not even Susan Collins will forgo a chance to keep a conservative majority on SCOTUS, and the GOP cares about courts more than even the presidency.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 01:58 (seven years ago) link

sucks to be this guy as now the ruthless dem minority will do everything they can to block his nomination even if it is blatantly unconstitutional right

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, January 24, 2017 12:18 PM

got money?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 02:25 (seven years ago) link

ha, morbs otm.

pplains, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 03:08 (seven years ago) link

i have a feeling dlh was not being entirely earnest with that post

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 08:02 (seven years ago) link

How much you wanna bet that Manchin and Heitkamp vote YES because they're in red states?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 11:29 (seven years ago) link

Making things easier for The Most Important Man in America:

“Everyone involved in the process — the president, the Senate Republicans, the Senate Democrats — needs to fight this nomination with one eye on Justice Kennedy,” said Ron Klain, a former senior White House aide who shepherded court appointees for Mr. Obama and President Bill Clinton. “His decision to retire or remain determines the balance of power on the Supreme Court.”

Mr. Trump’s strategists understand that filling Justice Scalia’s seat is not as significant as replacing Justice Kennedy. “I’m sure they would dearly love to see him step down soon,” said Walter Dellinger, a former acting solicitor general. “But he would like to be replaced by a moderate. If they chose a firebrand for the Scalia seat, Justice Kennedy might be more reluctant to leave. Of course, there is no guarantee the next nominee will be like this one.”

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 11:34 (seven years ago) link

I'm worried about Ginsberg, she's 83

marcos, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 13:06 (seven years ago) link

neal katyal comes out in favor https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/31/opinion/why-liberals-should-back-neil-gorsuch.html?_r=0

, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 13:21 (seven years ago) link

I'm getting a headache keeping track of how many Democrats worry about Tony's feelings:

For Senate Republicans, keeping the prospect of a Kennedy resignation in mind would counsel resisting the temptation to end the right to filibuster Supreme Court nominations. Eliminating any power of the minority to stop the most extreme possible nominee would probably be a red flag to Kennedy — an indication that the way was clear for a balance-shifting nominee who rejected Kennedy’s views and moved the court in a radical new direction.

Senate Democrats, too, must be mindful of how their approach to the nomination could affect Kennedy’s thinking. While it is tempting to begin the confirmation process with an intent to avenge the injustice done to President Barack Obama and his nominee, Judge Merrick Garland — and no one could be more tempted than I am — this urge must be resisted. An attitude of score-settling and partisan bitterness would likely be off-putting to Kennedy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/kennedy-not-trump-will-determine-the-supreme-courts-future/2017/01/29/63723374-e66d-11e6-bf6f-301b6b443624_story.html?utm_term=.2799ce1aaae9

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 13:41 (seven years ago) link

I feel like Neal Katyal's bar is pretty low. "He's a competent judge with some integrity and not a complete Trump rubber-stamper therefore he's good."

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 14:33 (seven years ago) link

I mean I get that sentiment in these times, I was sincerely worried he might pick a pure crony, like someone who would be completely ok with undermining our system of government. But it's not a very strong endorsement.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 14:34 (seven years ago) link

yeah 'better than harriet myers' is a low bar to clear

, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 14:35 (seven years ago) link

It is weird how each party breeds these nominees on some judicial farm out there, independent of who's actually president. I mean, it's not farfetched to assume Kasich or Pence would've nominated the same dude.

I was expecting Trump to nominate Judge Judy or Dr. Laura Schlessinger.

pplains, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 14:38 (seven years ago) link

William Pryor is not far off.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 14:41 (seven years ago) link


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