rolling emo/pop-punk/dogs on skateboards 2017

broken record about the sinai vessel album but it's out now and "laughlin" is an incredible song

the Allison Crutchfield record also out today is v enjoyable

last track on the sinai vessel record is weirdly terrible though. would've made a great ep, oh well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVjxrcEjx7E

oh my god this oliver houston album just knocked me on my ass

like the look mexico record from last year it gets the mathy emo/actually good songs ratio just right

does "good dog" definitely include an interpolation of fleetwood mac's "everywhere" or no?

until there's a rolling indie rock thread, i think this goes here:

https://osoosoband.bandcamp.com/album/the-yunahon-mixtape

it is good.

emo is the new indie rock

new menzingers!

my first listen was...not very promising for the most part, esp distressing as I thought Rented World was a significant step up

oh - i like it so far! i mean it's not super innovative but that was never really their strength. it's just v listenable crunchy power pop punk (some songs remind me of infinity on high fall out boy and 21st century breakdown green day)

I'm seeing Priests + Snail Mail tonight and listening to Snail Mail's Habit EP for the first time. It's much more emo than I was expecting, in the best way possible.

the menzingers suck imo and always have

i assume any and all esteem for them is generated from how good they are live but they are a dead ass dull pop punk band on record

might be more appropriate on a j-pop thread, but I like this from the Your Name ost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDSkFeMVNFs

ok Snail Mail were so fucking good live, I hope they capture that energy on record soon

really enjoying this band can't swim. the chorus on "we won't sleep" is a little awkward but everything around it is like super cheesy, hooky emo perfectly calibrated to my tastes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs7CWDUtuws

(their album comes out in march)

love it. i'm so easily manipulatable by emo songs. that moment at 2:00 (and in almost every emo song ever) when the instrumental cuts out and then comes roaring back in is super effective for me no matter how many times i hear it. thursday obv the master of this particular trick. when i saw them w/ my brother at starland he was so impressed at how rickley goes from 0 to 10 in 0 seconds. now they're doing a full tour and i'm thinking about seeing them AGAIN and fillmore philly...

i still really want to do that emo/pop-punk poll i signed up for years ago on the poll thread. i was also thinking a POX FOB thread would be fun. i've been listening to so much /classic/ emo recently - FOB when i drive, Brand New all the time, Dashboard at work. still loving that new dashboard covers EP.

I would be so down for that even though I seem to only be able to get into maybe 50% of the "classic" emo bands for one reason (musical or extramusical) or another

definitely do the emo poll mordy

im down and ready for this poll

once i get the go ahead from the master poll thread i'll start it up and link to it here

It's weird that I just noticed The Meadowlands came up in another thread cause I was about to ask if it should be eligible for this

in a way it feels like cheating cause it's so acclaimed and no one (that I can recall) called it emo at the time? but also it feels like it set the course for how emo bands tend to evolve as they stick around and grow up so idk

i plan to have a v expansive definition

^^ into it even though i'll complain during the results

Was taken aback by how emo Meadowlands is when i finally heard it a few years ago, for some reason always assumed they sounded like The National. Was p4k particularly averse to stuff calling itself emo in 2003?

the wrens have a little bit of emo in them anyway imo (the most obvious thing being the emphasis on dual vocals), see this og version of "boys you won't" from an old drive-thru records comp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu0XdDY3zfc

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Was p4k particularly averse to stuff calling itself emo in 2003?

Only stuff they liked.

TBF i lean against meadowlands being available to vote for, idk i dont want it to win idk idk

true story: i would've probably been a huge emo fan in high school but i took the pfork pan of stay what you are to heart

that review apparently no longer exists on the website but this tragedy still does: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/8054-full-collapse/

also: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/4261-bleed-american/

the deja entendu review is also still there. the weird thing with that is i read that review at the time and thought "oh yeah, this record sounds like some bullshit" but mtv2 played "sic transit gloria" CONSTANTLY and i was like, "this song fucking rules, i'm buying the album who gives a shit"

and now i make rolling emo threads on ilx

so glad i didnt care about music reviews until like 2008

well pitchfork anyway. read the source pretty religiously for a long time

im pumped 4 this poll. Are you gonna do albums and tracks?

yeah i probably could've saved myself a lot of adolescent taste posturing had i never followed a link to pfork's kid a review through a radiohead fansite

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Pretty sure it's the NME's fault I didn't listen to any emo records between 'From Under the Cork Tree' and the first Joyce Manor.

all these bad p4k reviews of classic emo albums just screams of anxiety - the knock consistently appears to be that the albums aren't /serious/ enough compared to the EXTREMELY DIFFERENT and NOT THE SAME THING AT ALL college rock indie albums they're touting one review over. hard to imagine someone listening to deja entendu and not finding at least some of the lyrics clever, or listening to all of bleed american and not enjoying any of it. all these reviews sound like the reviewer yelling at their own youth.

at the v least i'll do albums and depending how that goes i'll do tracks too maybe following? it feels like too much to run both simultaneously?

hard to imagine someone listening to deja entendu and not finding at least some of the lyrics clever

to that reviewer's credit i believe he acknowledges that some of the lyrics are great

give spin + andy greenwald credit for treating thursday and brand new and dashboard all seriously - i loved greenwald's nothing feels good and i remember at least a few really excellent profiles of chris carrabba at the time. probably lucky i was reading spin (and RS who iirc didn't weigh in much either way) and not p4k.

conversely i haaaaate the greenwald book but i hate dude's writing generally

well, at least nothing feels good is better than everybody hurts

i haven't read it since it came out so for all i know it would annoy me now but back then it felt good (lol) to see bands i loved getting a somewhat serious treatment on their level. iirc i particularly liked the conversations he had w/ the fans about why they loved this music.

I suffered p much exactly the same musical respectability politics issue that Brad did which is why the closest I got to emo at the time was The Wrens and the Desoto records stuff which tbh I really think should also be considered emo. Some of it (eg Shiner's The Egg) even got the dreaded emo pan

wait, I see that actually got a positive review, I must be thinking of something else from the same period

no Oso Oso, Brad?

i never actually managed to listen to that album!

i've def felt a little weird relistening to certain songs from deja entendu but the new one is still great imo but i know i'm unusual in my tolerance for consuming ethically questionable media. i don't judge anyone who has come to a different perspective for sure. i'm a little annoyed bc i feel like i'm going to end up censoring myself when balloting comes around but idk there are much worse problems in the world i can live w/ this one.

― Mordy, Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:12 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Feeling this post. I'm annoyed too, not even with self-censorship, but with the fact that I got cheated. The new Brand New album was actually my first Brand New album: the emo-poll on here renewed my interest in the genre, and this came along, and I loved it to bits. Yada yada couple of months later and it's in tatters, because this fuckhead couldn't control himself.

Still think it's a great album, but no love lost in leaving it off the ballot. Not listened to it since I heard the news, but I'll be honest: it did feel like a rough and sudden break-up with something I held dear for a while. But as you say: there are bigger problems.

I loved the Katie Ellen record, simple but potent

yeah the Katie Ellen record is a total charmer

i thought chumped was only ok and i like katie ellen even less but i’m still sorta thrilled that record is resonating with ppl

just nice to see friends of friends making good

are earlier sorority noise albums good? i listened to a bit of one and it seemed to be lacking, something (the humour? the killer arrangements? his delivery was a little less dry maybe) that make 'you're not as _____ as you think' so good to me

new one is the first one that made me care about them at all

there's a new Tiny Moving Parts single - pretty good! album's out in May

Brad, where would you have placed Br@nd N3w in your list if you had included it?

eh i’d rather not say, though i think it’s obvious from how enthusiastic i was about it when it came out

I was afraid you were going to say that.

my remaining hope for 2017 is that Quote Unquote surprise-drops the new Antarctigo Vespucci before the month is out, not sure how likely that really is though

are earlier sorority noise albums good? i listened to a bit of one and it seemed to be lacking, something (the humour? the killer arrangements? his delivery was a little less dry maybe) that make 'you're not as _____ as you think' so good to me

The new one is definitely the crowd-pleaser. Joy, Departed was a very sour record, and the It Kindly Stopped for Me EP is such a rough listen it almost feels like grief rendered into a snuff film. The tougher, alt-rock thing of the new one is a great look for them though.

brad was not lying about the Glassjaw album, easily one of the least compromising reunion records I can recall

the nasty basslines and slurred guitars remind me a bit of Unsane

I'm on it!

"nasty" is the right word i think

simon if you haven't heard them i recommend the two eps glassjaw put out before this record, they were the first glassjaw things i even sorta liked and they sound even better alongside the new album

i like the new one so much that i'm gonna struggle to give a shit about worship & tribute again

that midsection where it just falls into a cavern ("strange hours" / "bastille day") is really cool

I definitely underestimated the caracara album. it's seriously great.

everyone get hyped for next year's black foxxes album, it is phenomenal. for fans of merchandise and manchester orchestra but i think everyone here will be able to get down with it

lmao microwave not merchandise, what is wrong with me

For those compiling your year-end lists, this playlist includes all the available tracks on this thread, organized roughly chronologically in order of mention:

ILM's 2017 Rolling Emo + Pop Punk Thread Spotify Playlist

Enjoying the hell out of the Nervous Dater album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMigoMIkcx8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW6TN9zzObY

y'all check out this extremely baffling synth-heavy prog-emo-metalcore thing i found on the kerrang list

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5PHS8y5ozs

uhhhh wow

I can't tell if I truly love this or if I'm just dazzled by the fact that this particular "epic EDM + metal bits" combo has finally been executed well

same! but i think i really like it!

last track just convinced me that i love it

might be more appropriate on a j-pop thread, but I like this from the Your Name ost.

― devvvine, Tuesday, February 7, 2017 9:59 AM (ten months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gonna let brad make the 2018 thread but happy new Jeff Rosenstock album day!!!

oh cool, I didn't know that was coming

yeah it was a surprise release. he finally wrote his own britpop tune ("TV Stars")

new jeff is pretty good

yes I think that is the correct descriptor, not quite a masterwork/major statement like WORRY was but lots of great and appealingly weird moments

rolling emo/pop-punk/embarrassing music 2018