Cabaret Voltaire

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did I mention I'm more goth than you?

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 19 July 2008 08:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, I reckon I'm goth enough . . anyway, forgotten just how great 'Sensoria' sounds - played the 12" for weeks after it came out. It's a disgrace that I don't own all of the Cabs work on any modern format.

Consider me agog for any news on a reunion.

Soukesian, Saturday, 19 July 2008 10:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Re Disposable Half-Truths: Someone at the Princeton Record Exchange talked me into buying that cassette when I was 15. I had heard "Nag3" on Wanna Buy A Bridge? but had no conception of "industrial" music beyond that.

Fuck. Scariest music I ever heard up to that point (excluding "Revolution 9"). I remember listening to it on my Walkman as my parents drove us home through the Mercer County burbs, all the while that chant of "no fucking chance at all...no fucking chance at all..." echoing in my brain.

mike a, Sunday, 20 July 2008 01:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Bimble is most assuredly not more goth than me as real goths were disgusted with sell-out Sensoria and won't suffer any Cabs later than the Fools Game/Eddie's Out 12".

J0hn D., Sunday, 20 July 2008 04:08 (fifteen years ago) link

basically, if you can understand what Mallinder's saying and you still like it, you gotta turn in yr goth card

J0hn D., Sunday, 20 July 2008 04:09 (fifteen years ago) link

I like the early-middle period Cabaret Voltaire. Still dark and weird, but getting a little pop. Kinda like the UK electronic version of Chrome. For some reason I put them along the same lines.

burt_stanton, Sunday, 20 July 2008 04:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I can definitely hear parallels with Chrome

Soukesian, Sunday, 20 July 2008 10:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Aw yeah. Kiss my assz bitchez.

Cheers to Mike A. for mentioning "Disposable Half Truths".
You're going to make me pull that out now. And add it to my iPod.

Burt, I sent you an email the other day. Check yer spam folder if you don't see it.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 20 July 2008 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link

i like three mantras and red mecca and that's all i ever felt the need for (except for 24x5 but I listen to that less, in fact, never)

akm, Sunday, 20 July 2008 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I had a problem with looped matter-of-fact phrases over noisy backup. Something about the repetition seemed ominous and creepy to me.

mike a, Sunday, 20 July 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Love this band.

latebloomer, Sunday, 20 July 2008 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Has any band ever spawned more imitators, all of whom are not remembered now?

Mark G, Monday, 21 July 2008 08:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Photo finish with Throbbing Gristle

Tom D., Monday, 21 July 2008 09:12 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

well following that gig i posted about a few months ago (did anyone here go along ?) it looks like the 'band' are back.
just heard that they have remixed NZ band Koras.
well, it's not really 'they', as Mal is still remaining a silent partner, it's Kirk doing the work, a la Conversation era.
i've also heard that there are to be a couple of shows with a lot of emphasis on the visuals.

mark e, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link

loving this declaration on the cd-r label : "forged in sheffield"

mark e, Monday, 24 November 2008 11:27 (fifteen years ago) link

is there any way one can get said cd-r

J0hn D., Monday, 24 November 2008 11:38 (fifteen years ago) link

attention any Cabs fans past or present btw, this is incredible: http://goatsend.blogspot.com/2008/08/cabaret-voltaire-rock-city-nottingham.html

J0hn D., Monday, 24 November 2008 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

What in god's name is better than this? WHAT?
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With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Thursday, 1 January 2009 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link

With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Thursday, 1 January 2009 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link

"Over And Over" is the name of the song. What in the hell in this world is better than that? Please let me know.

With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Thursday, 1 January 2009 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link

dan selzer, Thursday, 1 January 2009 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link

DAN! Thank you!!!

With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Thursday, 1 January 2009 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link

It's all about the drummer's mullet, btw.

With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Friday, 2 January 2009 02:50 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

just heard that they have remixed NZ band Koras.

this is now available in shops.
for those that remember, Fon Records bloke, Amrik Rai is behind the release, and getting RHK back in line with the use of the CV name.
the use of cut-up vocals and synths is very much in line with mid-80s CV, but the overall production is a lot more current sounding.
naturally, i love it.

mark e, Monday, 16 March 2009 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

billy ray martin covers the cabs : here

didn't expect this to work as well as it does.

mark e, Thursday, 4 February 2010 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6d4_X3ZIeI

^ pretty good!

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry, that's the Billie Ray Martin cover btw.

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link

the roman polanski referencing video for the other version is also great :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vns_3nAsL5k&feature=player_embedded

mark e, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Can anyone really cover Cabaret Voltaire successfully? I mean that Billy Ray Martin cover bears little relation to the original. Which in an of itself isn't a bad thing, of course, but are there any truly inspired Cabaret Voltaire covers?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

3 glasses of red wine + headphones = ordered the virgin/emi era box set.

whoo hoo.

v. excited.

this band needs more love.

simple as that.

mark e, Saturday, 5 May 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

NAG NAG NAG

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

well, just ordered the emi/virgin era boxset from vice friendly hipster based charity shop.

f*ckers better be on board with their 'nearly new description.

back on track : how massive is the 12" version of 'crackdown' ?

for years now, people have loved/sampled human league/mode et al for their 80s thing, but no-one seems to have picked up on the brilliance of this era

xpost : u know for years my all time jim'll fix it wish was to visit 'western works', whereas now, i suspect its just some laptop in RHKs kitchen.

which means that i guess its too late for RHK to get his payday, which is a real shame as this is easily my fave era of CV.

humph-sulk-humph.

mark e, Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

Are the early lps getting a remaster at any point? Or have I missed that happening over the last couple of years. Love the music but wish I could hear it better.
Think I kind of cut off somewhere around '83. But love the earlier 3 piece stuff. Not so fond of them when they went primarily dancey though I did enjoy some of the later solo stuff.

Stevolende, Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

me and stevolende walk a different path.

as (s)he leaves, i enter the picture

i love all that early doors drum machine, synth + bass thing they had going on.

oh and re the early days material - as far as i know, mute have re-released it all on cd.

go a hunting ...

mark e, Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

I was in a band called Sensoria, that's how much credence we gave to it. Fkn love the Cabs.

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

But dancing to NAG NAG NAG at another ILXor's wedding.. damn.

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

^^^

the first 12" i truly went 'oh my f*ckin' god, what is that ... ' to.

never heard it prior to buying it

.. just read the nme review while walking around, at the same time i bumped into record store guy as i read the review who asked if i wanted anything, i pointed to the review and said 'get me that in asap'

the rest is history.

if ever one review changed a life forever, then this was it.

no more indie loving c86 styled shyte for me .. twas all funked up juddering machine noise.

the fact that very little has ever come close to that 12" version of 'sensoria' means little, as the quest continues ..

mark e, Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

f*ck. xpost.

mark e, Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

just to clarify : my crappy diatribe relates to the sensoria 12", not nag nag nag.

mark e, Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

man does anybody know where the dialogue sample in "Gut Level" comes from? Have wondered for years.

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

Agreed. What a record. xpost

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

ha, Sensoria for me & my friends was this HUGE embarrassment. We thought the Cabs were total genius, wrote that interlinking CV logo on desks & walls, and the guys at the record store weren't having it & then the new import single comes in and they condescend to playing it in the store for us. We got clowned. "Oh, yeah, you guys, this is fantastic, really deep shit." I like disco-era Cabs better now than I did then but to us at the time the rhythmic quasi-melodic non-ugly vocal style, the movement away from tight dubby atmospheres, was a betrayal of promise

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

i'm assuming 'gut level' is pre-virgn era ?

in which case, you're going to have to go deep and ask the mailing list nerds ..

actually, i can do that for you ... was just trying to add some euro-styled drama to the proceedings ..

xpopst : sensoria = embarrassmet.

the mind is well and truly boggled. i have put headphones on, and blast that mofo. its shits all over the lo-fi shit that ilm underlines as the 'proper' CV era.

'ok, tis time for me to cut out as the 12" version of 'i want you' has hit the 'phones, and its quite clear this stuff rules my world and i no longer care about my kids.

mark e, Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

the mind is well and truly boggled. i have put headphones on, and blast that mofo. its shits all over the lo-fi shit that ilm underlines as the 'proper' CV era.

I don't think it's ilm that does that, just saddo Cabs fans like me - there are maybe 4 of us. General consensus on pre-Some Bizaree Cabs is that it hasn't aged well, I think, and that seems true some days and less true on others. I'm listening to the Nottingham live '82 tape that circulates now though...it's just...so much better than the banging dance tracks they ended up making. Which are fine, and banging, and if they hadn't made them, somebody else would have, because they're just not that distinctive, at least not next to the weird electro-dub stuff they got going around Red Mecca.

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link

Wait - "Sensoria" was later. That seemed a little better. I'm thinking of the first single from the Some Bizarre era - Crackdown backed with This Fascination. There was a story in either NME or Melody Maker at the time that I read after that let's-listen in the record store, and the first line of it was "The Cabs fan was horrified." It was accurate in our small circle of 2.

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

fair enough.

u see i think in the mid-80s and onwards, richard-n-mal had a cool groove going on with their machines that i genuinely think no-one else had.

i listen to the early days stuff and to be honest, it does nothing for me.

i drop the 12" of 'crackdown' era and all becomes clear

mark e, Saturday, 5 May 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

1st single from virgin era = crackdown/fascination 12" in '83

and its rather good.

not sensoria 12" good, of course, but nothing is ....

mark e, Saturday, 5 May 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link


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