http://film.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/Critic_Review/Guardian_Film_of_the_week/0,4267,1064264,00.html
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― toby (tsg20), Monday, 20 October 2003 12:48 (twenty years ago) link
Cremaster 3 is good AND bad the order section in the guggenheim is magnificent and there are some genuinely disgusting and shocking images which are quite jolting. as tracer said though its slightly let down by the beauty of the images themselves they seem too gorgeous to be anything other than superficial - the chrysler section (the bulk of the film) goes on far too long.
Cremaster 2 i thought was the strongest - he gets the balance just about right - the gary gilmore murder sequence at the garage and the honey/cum fucking are good - really engaging, as are the salt flats sequences. its let down by the weakness of the relationship of these sections to the Harri Houdini/ Norman Mailer bits - the ending woth Mailer's speech pretty much ruins everything that has gone before it though.
Haven't seen 1 or 4 but i intend to. Overall they are extremely patchy but definatley worth checking out simply because they offer something you will never see the likes of at the movies. Except 5 which is like a bad Peter greenaway film.
The one thing i think that lets the cycle down overall is that the narrative is TOO STRONG. Seriously.
― jed (jed_e_3), Monday, 20 October 2003 14:22 (twenty years ago) link
jed u R being high
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:52 (twenty years ago) link
― jed (jed_e_3), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:54 (twenty years ago) link
but that one was my favorite! maybe even for the reasons you didn't like it. i was even very moved by it.
1 & 4 are ugly boring crap. fuck them and their ideas.
― ryan (ryan), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 20 October 2003 17:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Prude (Prude), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:39 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:27 (twenty years ago) link
I'll have to get to it over time.
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Saturday, 31 January 2004 00:27 (twenty years ago) link
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Saturday, 31 January 2004 00:32 (twenty years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 31 January 2004 01:17 (twenty years ago) link
― dean! (deangulberry), Saturday, 31 January 2004 01:29 (twenty years ago) link
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Saturday, 31 January 2004 21:51 (twenty years ago) link
― dean! (deangulberry), Saturday, 31 January 2004 22:30 (twenty years ago) link
notes directly:
bagpipe music in the isle of man one is all scratchy and noisyi really like the colour of testicles centuar with shorn horns, ron perlman in hellboy, escape thru tunnels, vas deferens/wombs all this fucking lubricant isle of man makes me reconsider girl on a motorcycle-!swimming thru pearls, like fish roecod peices doves (jacobian doves !?)couteiers in crimson and orange--twins ?ribbons all over the placethe lights like ovaries, the angels bless the house opera=high code for low emotionpink slit betwixt black leatherdrums on empty stagestuffed/inflatable pools of water lillies ribbons4(goat,excess, servents, centaurs)dancers,doves,mistresses)baubled pairs climbs the bean stock black leather bodice hand peice of two glass spheres connected by gold two pennies love on stage as an assumed 3rd audience, this does not orchestra as audeince like a whistler painting underwater, baptism/drowning min black on a black horse, are they dying together winter field, black trees emph. on footwearnaked under his cloak, white bone futursitc goves and manacles langourus cuts tragic, almost camp, so over time (does it realize this?)germanic (remake of wagner)horse rides alone (western)dives off bridge in mantacels naked (houdini and the water sequences in 4, the centuar dives beneath the floor, handcuffed or weighted)swelling stringsgreygreen river much like the forrest (intercessional ?)strange biomechincals (pool, shoe, robotic vaginas and anuses, unrelated or pseudorelated to ursla andress)broad silent acting more kabuki then gish18th centuy polychrome itaalian clupture of angelic kids4 mermaids live under roefull size, with fetal facesmarie attonies, wating to rise to coutiers saphhic barney comes in, as neptune, with red tulip feet, walks into the water, the attendants come and tie ribbons to genderless gentila, and then doves take the ribbons and fly it to the celling, pulling out (cremaster) his cockmajorettes/busby berkley one idea taken too far sex--bees over whelminghoudini salt flats norman mailer (who wrote about gilmore, and gilmore is in this one)rythimicsacred/secert rituals in rooms shaped like honeycombs (lds deseret)rock and roll (slayer--inside joke--cf blood revenge(ww) lds (think laban)Brahma Bulls rock and roll as GGs first break w. the churchDesert wax phalluseverything overwhelmed w. bees (work, efficency but also groupthink)matthew barney and his egodoes everything have subliminal meanings ?(dino gas)two cars connected by honeycomb (replacement, intercessary again, conduit)slc tabernacle, w. 12 men--scale modelpetrojelly everywhere (in the flapdown wind visor)old fashioned american gothics (the gilmore murder/the architechture of slc)12 apostles, 12 tribes, 12 riders, 12 flags, latter 12 bisonamerican/canuck flags rodeo (angola + gary on the bull, bull dies as gary rides, sacfricial)circle of salt, 4 beehive sentinalscops on mounts in atheltic patterns 2nd half about drones and queens, mounties, lakes, rocky mtns, banff springs
surreal in its most litearal sense
― anthony, Sunday, 20 June 2004 06:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 20 June 2004 13:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― ryan (ryan), Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Saturday, 2 October 2004 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― ryan (ryan), Saturday, 2 October 2004 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― josh in sf (stfu kthx), Sunday, 26 March 2006 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 26 March 2006 20:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― josh in sf (stfu kthx), Sunday, 26 March 2006 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jena (JenaP), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:10 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm a little bothered by how very DV it looks; wasn't cremaster 3 shot on film?
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link
Not surprisingly, the Village Voice spoof Cremasters cited above sound much more fun to watch than Barney's.
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― account settings (account), Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― ddb (ddb), Sunday, 26 March 2006 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― account settings (account), Monday, 27 March 2006 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link
"What a unbelievable piece of crap! Pretentious, boring and promoting the Japanese massacre of killing whales (in the name of science, hypocrites). Japan every year is trying to buy other countries to vote for reopening the hunt on whales in the International Whaling Commission. Maybe that's where Matthew Barney got the money from to make this piece of sh*t.
I used to be a big fan of Björk, musically but also her acting in "Dancer in the dark" (magnificent) , but now she has really lost it.
Matthew Barney is her partner, and apparently makes her lose all her critical capacity.
Don't go there!"
― josh in sf (stfu kthx), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― gbx (skowly), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link
Oh God, did you ever make as lovable a creature? A three-legged kitten in a teapot maybe.
― Distant Milk, Monday, 27 March 2006 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:18 (eighteen years ago) link
When in Minneapolis, which has significant and early Barney 'purchases' at the Walker, it was funny to look at who the wealthy buyer/donors were: a local real-estate magnate nobody outside Minnesota would be troubled by.
As to the art, it's relentlessly packaged but that's part of the practice. I wondered also if the practice was trying to express the ultimate self-ref/reverence and directing all that narcissism into strange and loopy places. It is very meaty as in fleshy. However intellectual they might make it sound, I can't help but think B&B sit there all day counting one another's toes and doing fuck-all.
― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:31 (eighteen years ago) link
"The Simple Life" for a pair of self-important art-world celebrities. With a combination of lavish pageantry and industrial exertion, the Nisshin Maru, Japan's last whaling ship, sails off from Nagasaki Bay. Along with its crew, it carries two guests, Matthew Barney and Bjork, who submit to elaborate rituals of tonsure, pomade, and dress at the hands of solemn bearers whose job it is to keep from laughing at their employers' airs. They partake of a classical tea ceremony in an unabashed display of Oriental kitsch that makes "Memoirs of a Geisha" look like an ethnographic documentary. As their berth fills with what might be water or whale oil, the couple lovingly carve each other up into human sushi. Barney, the director of this unbearingly empty spectacle, has in effect filmed at great expense the couple's designer-sightseeing cruise, with little more skill and vastly more pretense than the average tourist.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link