FRONTLINE: the pbs documentary series not the flea medicine

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The first hour is practically political Guns Of August. You know what's going to happen and each time there's an inevitable escalation I'm shouting "ugh no! don't do it!" when it eventually turns to shit. I can't help but notice just how invisible and/or ineffective the Democratic party (as establishment, brand, political force, or whatever you want to define it) is - there's four hours and barely a peep from them.

Great episode, would totally use it in that alternative universe where I'm a sociology professor and teaching a class on demographic failure.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 27 January 2017 09:10 (seven years ago) link

Yeah Divided States was like watching a highlight reel of everything shitty that has happened since 2008, like condensed poisoned soup. Still worth it to be reminded in detail how we got here.

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera),

otm. i just finished the first 2 hours. it is very good so far. it's the frontline standard of quality that we've all come to expect.

i was kind of surprised that i already knew most of the details. i suppose the obama presidency was the first one that i followed very closely from beginning to end. i didn't really become politically conscious until the invasion of iraq, and even then i spent most of the rest of the gwb years burblin' around in the haze of early 20s amoeba goo. but i remember the events covered in the divided states of america quite vividly.

i had sort of forgotten about ben nelson, though. god what a fucking asshole

Karl Malone, Friday, 27 January 2017 17:53 (seven years ago) link

i had forgotten about henry paulson
the luxury of forgetting is a luxury we no longer have now that there is a rabid moneybeast, a Puritan, and a Nazi in the WH :(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 27 January 2017 19:30 (seven years ago) link

really looking forward to watching divided states. can't believe i've never noticed this thread before, incredible title

intheblanks, Friday, 27 January 2017 22:45 (seven years ago) link

"Divided States" was excellent. Anyone watch "Trump's Road To the White House"? Recap of the dire and destructive methods Trump employed to become President.

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Monday, 6 February 2017 06:34 (seven years ago) link

i couldnt do it

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 February 2017 23:12 (seven years ago) link

I watched half and stopped. Maybe someday but not yet.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 6 February 2017 23:37 (seven years ago) link

yeah i was hyped for divided states but the opener was all the palin business and i had to can it

goole, Monday, 6 February 2017 23:53 (seven years ago) link

Hearing her voice again is a chore of the highest magnitude.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 6 February 2017 23:53 (seven years ago) link

not exactly frontline, but American Experience is doing a few documentaries about right-wing extremism: Oklahoma City this week and Ruby Ridge next

just another (diamonddave85), Thursday, 9 February 2017 19:57 (seven years ago) link

i was just coming here to post - domestic terror ahoy, folks

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 February 2017 23:36 (seven years ago) link

just finished oklahoma city
the rescue testimonials & survivor stories are heartbreaking, crawling through all of that unstable wreckage must have been such a nightmare
it's still today shocking to see the scale of damage

& fkn McVeigh chaps me so much

on the one hand I don't hate that he was executed bcz jfc

but on the other hand that that smug pos says o yes i was the mastermind & goes out in a blaze of lethally injected glory makes me insane
that sic semper tyrannus shirt has always pissed me off too

ugh sorry

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 February 2017 01:33 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

i have been avoiding watching the new one about the guy who eats fish every day and then reports on it.
has anyone seen it? the premise does not seem quite up to frontline standards :-/

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 1 May 2017 19:21 (seven years ago) link

yeah i gave that one a wide berth too

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 May 2017 19:52 (seven years ago) link

Haha fishing, berth, iswydt

gimmesomehawnz (Jon not Jon), Monday, 1 May 2017 20:48 (seven years ago) link

unintentional i swear

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 May 2017 21:44 (seven years ago) link

We're going to have to dock you for that one.

nickn, Monday, 1 May 2017 21:57 (seven years ago) link

don't they do a lot of episodes about farming though? this seems like the same wheelhouse. or are you just saying they're not given to telling... fish stories?

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 1 May 2017 22:08 (seven years ago) link

it seems more like a morgan spurlock pitch than a Frontline story imo

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 May 2017 22:23 (seven years ago) link

I was saying it seems kind of boring as research topics go. I'm sure it's better than I think it is and the conceit is just a trick to "lure the viewer"
If this were an article, I would not read it.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 00:50 (seven years ago) link

clickbaity kinda

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 01:23 (seven years ago) link

That's what I meant by lure the viewer. I would not click on this if it weren't Frontline and I feel like it's gotta be better than I think it is. I was hoping someone had watched it/would vouch for it being more than as described above

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 01:43 (seven years ago) link

I will watch it and report back, I love the ocean

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 02:42 (seven years ago) link

This one looks pretty good, Second Chance Kids (about juvenile offenders who receive life sentences)
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/second-chance-kids/

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:14 (seven years ago) link

Also thank you f. hazel for your service

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:15 (seven years ago) link

OK, I have watched the Fish Every Day episode. It is not essential viewing. The focus is more on the state of aquaculture and various fishing methods than the "eat fish for a year" schtick that just kinda frames the narrative a little. It's actually pretty funny how he expects it to maybe improve his health and then they show him talking to various doctors and they're clearly like "WTF? why would you think this would do anything except expose you to too much mercury? there is no real research to back up these mad health claims why didn't you Google a little before eating nothing but fish for a year". But I liked it because it was only a little melancholy and not relentlessly grim like some Frontlines can be.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 00:45 (seven years ago) link

"Poverty, Politics & Profit" out May 9th.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/poverty-politics-and-profit/

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 6 May 2017 07:07 (seven years ago) link

the one about affordable housing is a Frontline classic of investigative journalism
classic Laura Sullivan worship from the camera too
i liked when they went to Costa Rica and talked with Dax
vouchers are bs

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:16 (seven years ago) link

also -- housing developer greed story in the USA serving as metaphor for state of the USA in general :(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:18 (seven years ago) link

ALSO i am officially psyched about the upcoming one on MILITIAS/the Bundy situation
the FBI posed as a documentary film crew and got inside scoop!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link

definitely feel i can skip "i ate fish every day" now that they are back to their usual programming

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link

whoa was the militia one yesterday? says 5/16 on website. i think i know what i'm watching tonight. did you see the american experience episodes about ruby ridge and timothy mcveigh (two shows, overlapping content)

assawoman bay (harbl), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 20:59 (seven years ago) link

I just saw a teaser for the militia one that promised insider FBI footage. Have not seen those other eps!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 21:03 (seven years ago) link

they're both on netflix

assawoman bay (harbl), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 21:05 (seven years ago) link

ruby ridge & mcveigh eps were really good

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 May 2017 01:19 (seven years ago) link

Considering donning a hazmat suit for tonight's BANNON'S WAR

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

Militia one ("American Patriot") was pretty good, definitely recommend if you are interested in the topic

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link

ALSO the one about affordable housing is a nice complement to this piece about Kushnerville https://www.propublica.org/article/the-beleaguered-tenants-of-kushnerville

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link

i was a bit disappointed in the militia one, more for the lack of historical context etc but overall it was p good

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link

There's a "for mature viewers only" content warning before Bannon's War
Lol/sob

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 03:24 (six years ago) link

watched the soon-to-be-on-Frontline film 'Abacus' last night; interesting portrait of a family and the incompetence of the feds

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

That sounds cool! looking forward to seeing it.

I'm done with Bannon's War and ready to suggest it as essential viewing for people who are like "how did this happem?!"
It explains (rather soberly, imo) how this happened

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 May 2017 00:11 (six years ago) link

oops that is supposed to say *happen

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 May 2017 00:11 (six years ago) link

Ben Shapiro is nauseating in this, describing his decision to quit as a result of breitbart's turn away from "journalist integrity"when they began attacking trump's opponents during the primary.

Pffffft

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 May 2017 00:48 (six years ago) link

Everything about the whole doc made me want to puke. But it was very clear and explained a lot.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 May 2017 01:07 (six years ago) link

sorry to put a typo in quotes! "journalistic integrity", of course.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 May 2017 01:11 (six years ago) link

You were busy puking it's ok!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 May 2017 01:28 (six years ago) link

*pukey thumbs up*

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 May 2017 01:30 (six years ago) link


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