Parts of American culture that have never really been imported outside the US

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beans and syrup makes sense if you like boston baked beans with molasses. which reminds me i was reading about this sticky situation the other day.

https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16114442_1634984573473752_5585640463727518990_n.jpg?oh=fe09e02db39e9be6263968da1f47112f&oe=59074331

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 15:55 (seven years ago) link

when my mom made crepes she called them swedish pancakes.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 15:56 (seven years ago) link

Also I always hated the name 'eggy bread' for some reason

this, as well as "cheese toasties" makes me think the UK must have a cutesy name for every common food.
"Are you making hot dogs?"
"What's a hot dog? These are Piggy Wiggy Cakes."

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 16:40 (seven years ago) link

eggy bread sounds like that moronic adspeak "melty cheese"

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link

when my mom made crepes she called them swedish pancakes

That's what they're called on the IHOP menu also

Josefa, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:07 (seven years ago) link

genuinely shocked to learn that people in the states grew up eating maple syrup

my understanding was that the stuff down in the states was pancake syrup, which was made of artificially flavoured high fructose corn syrup

i always thought maple syrup went mainstream relatively recently (15-20 years or so) in the states

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link

the image of american syrup i had growing up:

http://www.auntjemima.com/images/products/syrups/original.png

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

pancake syrup started as a downmarket maple syrup afaik?

mh 😏, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

If you’re wondering where Aunt Jemima or Log Cabin syrup fit into this picture — these common table products are not real maple syrup. The tagline for Log Cabin, which is made with sugar, is “Authentic Maple Tasting Syrup for over 120 years.” This careful wording is intentional and crafted to avoid false advertising claims. (Most brands of maple-flavored pancake toppings are made with corn syrup.)

mh 😏, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:34 (seven years ago) link

Revolting garbage.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:39 (seven years ago) link

There might be a class divide on real maple syrup, and/or even more so a geographical one. The Northeast and Northern Midwest are places that maple syrup actually comes from. Some ppl still use the fake stuff but probably fewer than elsewhere in the country, particularly in Southern states. However it's true that even in the north, inexpensive diners and truck stop-type places they probably only have fake.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:42 (seven years ago) link

I will use whatever is provided with few complaints but would be confused if a nicer place had the fake stuff

mh 😏, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:46 (seven years ago) link

When I was a kid we used cheap shit (Aunt Jemima, etc.) 'cause we were poor, but one year we went on vacation to Vermont and fucking loaded up on real maple syrup.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link

my son practically mainlines Mrs. Butterworth syrup. I don't really get it. We have real maple syrup, but he refuses to touch it.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link

The cheap stuff is sweeter than the real thing. Kids like sweetness more than complexity.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link

i grew up in new england and i've had plenty of both. living in western mass however is just a way more syrupy existence. it's everywhere. vermont right down the street. maple soda. maple candy. even the TREES are made of maple.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:43 (seven years ago) link

Even though we lived close enough to maple sugar bushes that we went there on field trips, I ate that cheap pancake syrup shit growing up in Ottawa too tbh. I knew, even as a kid, that it was garbage compared to the real thign.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:46 (seven years ago) link

*thing

Ha, yeah, my neighbourhood coffee shop in Worcester makes a maple cappuccino with Vermont maple syrup. It's sort of gross tbh but I admire the spirit.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link

i had real maple syrup growing up in northeast ohio. it's pretty good syrup here. most of this part of the state is wooded so it is readily available. i also liked the fake stuff growing up too.

i lived in new england for 9 years and real vermont syrup was everywhere, it was great. but even diners in new england often use "pancake syrup"

marcos, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:49 (seven years ago) link

you can get maple syrup in pretty much any big french or english supermarket. bordeaux even has a skate shop called "sirop d'erable" - https://www.yelp.de/biz/sirop-d-erable-bordeaux

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:18 (seven years ago) link

also the majority of maple syrup is produced in canada

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link

i almost feel like fake syrup goes best with fake waffles. eggos + corn syrup just makes more sense.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link

"but even diners in new england often use "pancake syrup"

in the diner i go to in town you have to ask for the "real" syrup. costs extra.

all the good stuff that i buy here at the supermarket is local mass/vermont stuff. it's awesome.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link

i would take you guys to all these sugar house breakfasts if you visited. yuuuuuuuum.

https://70c97aaea282a207d81b-f84eee09323602e80e90b9678fa5fc9b.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Sugarhouse.jpg

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link

also the majority of maple syrup is produced in canada

― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, January 17, 2017 3:25 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

right. it is actually hard to find real VT or other US maple syrup in regular grocery stores. even in whole foods it's mostly canadian stuff

marcos, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:31 (seven years ago) link

quebec mafia iirc

mh 😏, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:36 (seven years ago) link

not that hard in nyc, so i guess im glad i didnt move

maple syrup > rent

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:43 (seven years ago) link

yeah, big syrup is no joke.

http://america.aljazeera.com/multimedia/2015/4/canada-syrup-cartel.html

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:44 (seven years ago) link

"Of all the states, Vermont has the largest appetite, with the average resident consuming almost 11 pounds of maple syrup per year. The national average is significantly less, almost registering half a pound."

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:49 (seven years ago) link

Obsessed w maple syrup. Love it with yoghurt. Lol

nathom, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:07 (seven years ago) link

it's so good on oatmeal. or any hot cereal.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:32 (seven years ago) link

this is a reverse question. every five years or so someone on ilm reminds me that grime existed. it only existed in the states for about five minutes when people bought a dizzee rascal album (mostly the college crowd i don't know how many hip hop fans bought it) and played it twice. kinda like the streets. everyone here was really just waiting for a new prodigy album to buy. anyway, is it hyper-regional now or is grime a thing anywhere outside the u.k.?

scott seward, Thursday, 19 January 2017 14:23 (seven years ago) link

Pro-life terrorism.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link

i will take your word for it, tracer hand. i know there are people who still like drum & bass in the states. i don't know who they are, but i'm pretty sure they exist.

scott seward, Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:26 (seven years ago) link

at least 4 college radio stations across 3 different cities i've lived in all have/had drum & bass hours on the schedule

marcos, Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link

(u.s. cities obv)

marcos, Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link

The very first episode of Spooks (Not called Spooks in the U.S.) that I watched was about anti-abortion bombings. But, to be fair, the anti-abortion Brits were led by an American.

scott seward, Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link

Talk about far-fetched.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:34 (seven years ago) link

Pro-life terrorism.

otm. this is strictly a US cultural phenomenon. and in typically US fashion, there are plenty of people who make money off it.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:36 (seven years ago) link

beloved los angeles college radio station kcrw used to go hard on jungle/dnb nights in the 90s

best dj sets i heard at that time because vancouver was musically lagging by a decade at that point

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:41 (seven years ago) link

scott i share your skepta-cism

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 19 January 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

There's an actual root beer thread but this is where we talked about root beer last month so eh.

I bought a fizzy drink in the local Chinese supermarket, not knowing what it was, but the can looked kind of Dr Pepper-like so I figured why not. Opened it, familiar smell, kind of like Germolene... wait, didn't I have a drink which tasted of Germolene last month too?

Oh yes. I appear to be drinking Chinese root beer, more or less. https://starkravingblog.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/wonderful-world-of-root-beer-watsons.html

(My can just says 沙示, but even if it had said Sarsae I don't think I'd have made the connection to Sarsaparilla, though it might have made me think of Sarson's vinegar which might have dissuaded me from buying it...)

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 16 February 2017 21:14 (seven years ago) link

I was in China for ten years before I tried Sarsae. It's like rubbish watered down root beer. I did live on Watson's soda water for a year or two though. I never did get over the absurdity of the only manufacturer of American-style soft drinks being the nation's biggest drugstore chain.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 16 February 2017 21:40 (seven years ago) link


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