A Model TrILBY; or, What Are You Reading Now, Winter 2016/17

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Review copies of John D's new book come in specially-made VHS covers, which fits its theme, and I wish I could get hold of one :(

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 00:33 (seven years ago) link

i just read 'In a Grove' by Ryūnosuke Akutagawa. i've never seen Rashomon. re-read it a few times trying to puzzle together the opposing accounts, but getting confused about who is wearing a blue kimono ~,~

flopson, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 01:18 (seven years ago) link

The film's no clearer 8)

Was also remade set in the West and starred William Shatner and that's worth a look too.

koogs, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 05:40 (seven years ago) link

George Eliot - Felix Holt: The Radical

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 11:46 (seven years ago) link

The Alteration - Kingsley Amis (delighted by the unexpected reference to The Man in the High Castle)
Euro Gothic: Classics of Continental Horror Cinema - Jonathan Rigby

Darcy Sarto (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 12:03 (seven years ago) link

Vol. 1 of LoA's Women Crime Writers, discussed in an earlier ILB thread

It's striking how different some of these novels are from their film versions, especially Dorothy R.Hughes' In a Lonely Place, which shares little except its title with the Bogart movie. Vera Caspery's Laura is the best of the novels in this volume and also the most similar to its film adaptation.

I found Elisabeth Sanxay Holding's The Blank Wall oddly disturbing, not because of its standard thriller plot, but because of the way the protagonist's dependency/learned helplessness/pretty-little-headedness kept compounding its menace. There are some feminist ideas in the novel, but they are mostly expressed through an image of 1947 female consciousness that felt weirdly archaic. In the (first) film version, The Reckless Moment, Joan Bennett was much tougher and more formidable, and it is better than the book for that reason, but points to Holding for generating suspense with the opposite of the usual clever, resolute heroine.

Brad C., Wednesday, 11 January 2017 13:48 (seven years ago) link

Read The Blank Wall a couple of years ago - it felt very anticipatory of Patricia Highsmith's work, and also Devil Take the Blue-tail Fly by John Franklin Bardin, so I guess I took the central character's 'learned helplessness' as symptomatic of a certain mental fragility on her part, which of course is conducive to suspense.

Darcy Sarto (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 14:05 (seven years ago) link

read the play 'I never sang for my father' yesterday, p good, reminded me a lot of 'the subject was roses' but w the melodrama a lil more reigned in, I enjoy these mid-60s era dysfunctional/confessional family dramas

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 14:47 (seven years ago) link

The Collected Stories of Elizabeth Bowenstarts with one about a bachelor boarder, who pays extra for home-style comforts, which incl. very close attention by females across the breakfast table; the simple male mind thinks they all want to marry him (well maybe not the venerable Aunt Willoughby, maybe) and senses as much as he is able--in the familiar, always edgey morning drills---the shifting within the pecking order, the political significance of their comments and questions for him, comments and ripostes for each other among them. Just a few pages---he has to eat fast, leave for work---but already, in her late teens or early 20s, she's killing it.
Maybe a little too imagery-happy in the one about the antsy young unmarried teacher who impulsively invites her wary hungry teen girl students to tea, but only at the beginning, which does crank things up for the spring fever spin.
These could be the beginnings of good novels, ditto the one about the vicar and his disconcertingly aspiring benefactor, while "The Confidante" and "Requiescat" could be satisfying endings (could also see all of these as plays). This last is the most complex so far, as a man receives a letter requesting help with "some papers" from the recently widowed wife of someone who was apparently more than a friend. He dreads and feels compelled, by duty and rivalry, to go see her; she apologizes for demoting him---"I tried to play the game." He leads and leaves her to this, then responds in several ways, changing masks and letting them slip a little.

dow, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link

Think all these so far are from her first collection, Encounters, published in 1923 (B. b. 1899).

dow, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 18:53 (seven years ago) link

Did you buy that book or take out of the library?

The Magnificent Galileo Seven (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link

The Alteration - Kingsley Amis (delighted by the unexpected reference to The Man in the High Castle)

This is a very underrated book, I reckon. It was referenced a lot in the book I just finished, James Gleick's 'Time Travel: A History', which was an enjoyable wander through the literary/cinematic history, philosophy and physics of time travelling.

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 23:14 (seven years ago) link

Kraftwerk Publikation which I just found today in a sale.
Didn't remember having heard about it before at the time but it looks like it covers the full history so I thought I'd grab it.

Still finishing taht Other side of Bob Dylan by Victor Maymudes.

Then was going to go through the memoir of the Flying Nun label head which turned up as 2 for £5 in FOPP over Xmas.

still got 100 or so pages of Ford Maddox ford's March of Literature to finish.
JUst found out taht library has changed policy and you can now get 12 books out at the same time which sounds a bit excessive, so I don't quite get why they went up from 6.

About 1/2 way through Dance of Days on the DC punk scene too. Which was a birthday present from my brother.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 23:22 (seven years ago) link

I hadn't finished a book in a few months so i read through A Brief History of Portable Literature by Vila-Matas -- 86 pages. It was OK. I didn't know all of the historical figures, and didn't get half of the jokes.

Library book club book this month was a gothic horror novel by a local author. Purple prose (I don't want to see the phrase "Dawn's golden fingers" except in translations of ancient Greek), way too many characters, too much setup. didn't get to page 100.

Now I'm halfway through Candide, another shorty.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Thursday, 12 January 2017 00:23 (seven years ago) link

I have been crawling and clawing my way past the 1000 page mark of The Man Without Qualities.

atm, Walter and Clarisse keep threatening to do something interesting, but can't seem to get the hang of it. Ulrich has been gabbling a lot to his sister and he seems like an awful sad sack now, whose mind shuffles along and trips itself like a person wearing shoes whose laces have been tied to each other. Everyone is impossibly high-flown and ineffectual. Makes for tough sledding to read about them.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 12 January 2017 01:50 (seven years ago) link

sounds like ilx

mookieproof, Thursday, 12 January 2017 01:51 (seven years ago) link

fewer zings

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 12 January 2017 01:53 (seven years ago) link

"
The Collected Stories of Elizabeth Bowenstarts with one about a bachelor boarder, who pays extra for home-style comforts, which incl. very close attention by females across the breakfast table; the simple male mind thinks they all want to marry him (well maybe not the venerable Aunt Willoughby, maybe) and senses as much as he is able--in the familiar, always edgey morning drills---the shifting within the pecking order, the political significance of their comments and questions for him, comments and ripostes for each other among them. Just a few pages---he has to eat fast, leave for work---but already, in her late teens or early 20s, she's killing it.
Maybe a little too imagery-happy in the one about the antsy young unmarried teacher who impulsively invites her wary hungry teen girl students to tea, but only at the beginning, which does crank things up for the spring fever spin.
These could be the beginnings of good novels, ditto the one about the vicar and his disconcertingly aspiring benefactor, while "The Confidante" and "Requiescat" could be satisfying endings (could also see all of these as plays). This last is the most complex so far, as a man receives a letter requesting help with "some papers" from the recently widowed wife of someone who was apparently more than a friend. He dreads and feels compelled, by duty and rivalry, to go see her; she apologizes for demoting him---"I tried to play the game." He leads and leaves her to this, then responds in several ways, changing masks and letting them slip a little.

― dow, Wednesday, January 11, 2017 6:44 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink"

Oddly enough I bought the collected stories a few years ago, read all the stories you described here but no more, then sort of forgot about it except for reading a story I saw a reference to somewhere recently. I must go back to them!

.robin., Thursday, 12 January 2017 02:02 (seven years ago) link

Believe Eudora Welty liked every one of the stories. I know the WWII stories are the most famous, such as the ones from Ivy Gripped The Steps

The Magnificent Galileo Seven (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 January 2017 02:31 (seven years ago) link

There was a version of the Collected Stories which led with an introduction by Angus Wilson. One with a green, kind of boring cover. Current version in the US with the nice painting lists the Angus Wilson intro in the TOC but it has in fact gone missing.

The Magnificent Galileo Seven (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 January 2017 02:38 (seven years ago) link

Mine has an Angus Wilson introduction (boring cover but its navy blue). Were you looking for it? I'm sure I could take some photos and upload it somewhere, its only a few pages long.

.robin., Thursday, 12 January 2017 11:12 (seven years ago) link

Thanks, but I read it recently in a library copy so no need right now. Not sure exactly why its absence irks me. Maybe I am missing the brick and mortar bookstore where I bought his Anglo-Saxon Attitudes.

Also just remembering that somewhere I have the intro she wrote herself to Ivy Gripped the Steps and Other Stories.

The Magnificent Galileo Seven (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 January 2017 15:29 (seven years ago) link

I'm reading the navy blue doorstop edition with Angus Wilson's intro, but you're not missing much without that. Makes a few good points I guess but he's very hats-off to what he beholds as her robust country heiress grace, Conservative but fair-minded (also claims she's better than Woolf etc). But she seems to be full of mischief from the get-go, initially in a way maybe fairly familiar to yer more sophisticated sort of magazine readers, but increasingly pushing against and around gender norms, as female characters, especially (but not only) test power factors and divine secret codicils in their heritage---along with the money and status, always useful, and you can't get away from any of the expectations and possibilities; even if you don't have much yourself, you're downwind of Someone who does. Also, you might be a good little wife secretly lost, re-entering the clutches of the Helper (as she says her friends on the Continent call her), for instance.
Wonder what Woolf, Mansfield, Jane Bowles thought of her? Wonder what DH Lawrence thought, for that matter---prob mixed emotions: here's a "secret" sister, but an suavely uppity woman too.

dow, Thursday, 12 January 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link

So far the stories are still pretty short, brief encounters, hit and run. See you soon.

dow, Thursday, 12 January 2017 17:16 (seven years ago) link

Michael Moorcock: My Experiences in the Third World War And Other Stories -- only a few in, but the first four stories, linked under the book's title, about a Russian spy in the lead-up to and early days of a WW3, are very nice and significantly less pulpy than a lot of the Moorcock I've read.

I like his description in the intro of how his huge volume of 1960s/70s books were "written quickly, but not cynically" (ie Elric in 9 days, apparently)

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Thursday, 12 January 2017 23:17 (seven years ago) link

Finished The Count of Montecristo two days ago. It's hard to imagine that I'll be reading a better book this year.

Now I'm halfway Thomas Olde Heuvelt's HEX, a silly Dutch horror novel about a small village and its very own 300-year old witch.

ArchCarrier, Friday, 13 January 2017 13:29 (seven years ago) link

Blue Boy by Jean Giono; fictionalised autobiog, swelling dripping fecund nature-humans with the real world clearly there but dreamily unacknowledged. Very Giono, in other words. I like it.

Tim, Friday, 13 January 2017 13:46 (seven years ago) link

Michael Moorcock: My Experiences in the Third World War And Other Stories

is this the new Gollancz collection? (It looks like there was a previous collection w the same title)

Οὖτις, Friday, 13 January 2017 16:14 (seven years ago) link

God, I read Count of Monte Cristo last summer, Robin Buss translation -- it really is the best thing

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 13 January 2017 16:30 (seven years ago) link

Cervantes - Don Quixote. Now onto Part 2, see you next month :-)

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:44 (seven years ago) link

did you dudes reading the count of monte cristo do abridged editions or did you go the whole hog?

sciatica, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:52 (seven years ago) link

Philip S. Foner - History of the Labor Movement in the United States, Vol. 1: From Colonial Times to the Founding of the American Federation of Labor

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 January 2017 19:52 (seven years ago) link

sweet

flopson, Friday, 13 January 2017 22:03 (seven years ago) link

Sciatica - I read the Robin Buss Penguin translation, which is unabridged and really easy to read, if not to hold.

Not sure how an abridged version could work - even at the length it is, there's very little filler. Even the wet romantic leads get some really good bits, and the off-topic chapters about Italian bandits fun - it never drags. There's no Tolstoy-style "...and now I'm going to do a short essay about love/betrayal/tractors before we get back to the story. It's ALL plot and ridiculousness and jaw-dropping twists. Just got 1200 pages.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 13 January 2017 23:38 (seven years ago) link

God I should proofread before I post but you get the idea.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 13 January 2017 23:39 (seven years ago) link

i should learn to read period since i see you mentioned the edition in your original post

also a little googling shows the abridgements to be pretty severe -- looks like maybe 400 pages total in an old penguin paperback

damn you for getting me excited about another long-ass old-ass book

sciatica, Friday, 13 January 2017 23:57 (seven years ago) link

Michael Moorcock: My Experiences in the Third World War And Other Stories

is this the new Gollancz collection? (It looks like there was a previous collection w the same title)

― Οὖτις, Saturday, 14 January 2017 2:44 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, part of the supposedly definitive huge new moorcock collection they have been doing for the last couple of years. I also got Von Bek and another collection, The Brothel in Rosenstrasse

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Saturday, 14 January 2017 00:14 (seven years ago) link

Spots

It's amazing, be excited! I managed it in 6 weeks, as a very slow reader, which is... not too bad? The only challenge is the length, it's super easy to read. NB Buss version is the way to go - I read a few chapters alongside the original uncredited version, which is beautiful but misses the jokes and the fruitiness.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 14 January 2017 00:15 (seven years ago) link

Spots = autocorrect for xpost

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 14 January 2017 00:16 (seven years ago) link

ah yeah I don't bother with a lot of Gollancz stuff. Von Bek books are ok, nothing special. Haven't read the Brothel in Rosenstrasse.

xp

Οὖτις, Saturday, 14 January 2017 00:16 (seven years ago) link

I got the Von Bek because it had an interesting-sounding mitteleuropa thing going on; not sure how that will square with all the Eternal Champion! stuff

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Saturday, 14 January 2017 04:02 (seven years ago) link

Passably imo

Οὖτις, Saturday, 14 January 2017 04:03 (seven years ago) link

Basically everything Chuck said re: Monte Cristo. You should definitely read an unabridged version.

You might want to make a list of the characters and their relationships, especially if you take more than a few weeks to get through the book. Wikipedia has a nice diagram, but it contains massive spoilers.

I finished the novel in about 2 weeks, but that included several days of getting up at six to get another 50 pages in before breakfast. I feel bad for those poor newspaper readers who had to wait days or even weeks for the next installment.

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 14 January 2017 08:30 (seven years ago) link

I love that TWO of the arrows on that diagram are "poisons (but doesn't kill)".

I just finished The Ballad of Peckham Rye, not sure what to make of it.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 14 January 2017 13:38 (seven years ago) link

Ballad of Peckham Rye has not aged well. The social norms it assumes have changed too drastically.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 14 January 2017 18:32 (seven years ago) link

The Eye Listens by Paul Claudel, a collection of essays on art. His "Introduction to Dutch Painting" is lovely.

jmm, Saturday, 14 January 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link

Reading He Died With His Eyes Open by Derek Raymond. I feel like I know Cook/Raymond because of various Iain Sinclair books and conversations, but this is the first thing I've actually read. It's great - fizzingly brutal, British noir, full of great dialogue and aphorisms (the 'Raymond' is a deliberate nod) and quite clearly a forerunner to the likes of David Peace and Gordon Burn.

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Saturday, 14 January 2017 21:36 (seven years ago) link

Those derek raymonds are amazing, and get more brutal as the series goes on

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Saturday, 14 January 2017 22:42 (seven years ago) link

I've heard Dora Suarez is kind of unreadable in its brutality. That true?

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Saturday, 14 January 2017 23:09 (seven years ago) link

Pretty much. It is excellent writing but a truly horrible book.

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Sunday, 15 January 2017 01:15 (seven years ago) link

Raduan Nassar's Ancient Tillage is so good - his speaking out against Brazilian government austerity is also a model in the way a writer conducts himself in public life - although he hasn't been active since this was published in the mid-70s (which is perhaps another example to writers). Mostly made up of a series short, intense chapters where time and space are slowed and you are fully soaked in nature, sex, rebellion and God - written in this modernistic-style prose. Maybe its the power of modernistic prose, that it can partially shade these things in another mode entirely on the page that give it a different sensibility - Nassar feels fully in command of that.

Agustin Fernandez Mallo - Nocilla Experience. This is almost the first piece of fiction I've read that has tried to LOL respond to globalisation. My problem is I'm kinda sniffy about globalisation - I'd rather it fell apart as a conversation first (its always been something that is not really there, really, a cover for horrible policies and a world that is faaling to pieces). The prose is as flat as you like - and actually you wouldn't have it any other way. People/where/what they find themselves in develop as fragments (and their fragments are taken up 20+ pages after, very 'Short Cuts' I suppose). Its the kind of fiction you could run out of town by simply destroying the theory behind it - and the music he likes. Its like a very technocratic way of doing fiction (Mallo is a Physicist, an 'expert' in other words).

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 April 2017 10:10 (seven years ago) link

Spring thread time?

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 April 2017 10:11 (seven years ago) link


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