2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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Er, that it because/that it becomes.

Bill in Chicago, Monday, 29 September 2008 23:31 (fifteen years ago) link

has Economist not noticed that Palin's numbers have tanked?

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 29 September 2008 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Making a similar point earlier on MSNBC, Holtz-Eakin said McCain deliberately "kept a low profile."

Alex in SF, Monday, 29 September 2008 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link

they did endorse kerry, you know

xp

mookieproof, Monday, 29 September 2008 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

EAT SHIT

1,000,000,000 FLIES CAN'T BE WRONG

-- THE ECONOMIST

Tracer Hand, Monday, 29 September 2008 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I will say it one more time: since appointing their american bureau lead to the Editor In Chief spot, that magazine has gone right downhill in a damn hurry. I remember as soon as he got in charge all the picture captions went from occasionally-lol to po-faced-literal, and then after that everything else also got notably dumbed down. Fuck 'em.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link

K. J. Lopez discovers what her core constituency is like. Apparently this has surprised her a bit.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 00:23 (fifteen years ago) link

lol 'we knew you were a democrat you dirty person named lopez'

mookieproof, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 00:30 (fifteen years ago) link

guys i am just so upset at jimmy carter for crashing wall street. SO UPSET.

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link

and those house democrats! they hold the majority so obviously they are at fault for all those republicans who didn't vote for it.

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link

(ugh. THESE are the straws they are grasping for. such a farce.)

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link

gotcha journaism = some guy at the cheesesteak place asking you what yr gonna do if u get elected

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link

there is some question about the economist's veracity in covering the globe at large, though i can't find the links in my current state. though at least they do cover it, which is more than most other 'newspapers' do. it's useful to keep in mind their guiding principles:

1. the utterly free market will save us all
2. america (or other capitalist hegemon) as global cop, however misguided, is better than an isolationist america (or other capitalist hegemon)
3. robert mugabe is totally on the way out, no shit
4. silvio berlusconi sux

mookieproof, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link

When did a new EIC take over the Economist? I thought I had a harder time stomaching it over the past year or so, but figured I was just tiring of their shtick. Glad to hear it's not just me.

Lexington is always dreadful, btw.

Martin Van Burne, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 01:34 (fifteen years ago) link

heh, one of my good friends from HS writes for the Economist. I just resubscribed b/c I had frequent flier miles from Delta that I had to use or lose, and so magazines it was.

Peter Cetera (Euler), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 01:36 (fifteen years ago) link

K. J. Lopez discovers what her core constituency is like. Apparently this has surprised her a bit.

To be fair, people who argued in favor of HRC instead of Obama for Dem candidate usually got a far worse inbox.

Still, KLo's "and now we're the president of Iran?" about-face was lolz

Mackro Mackro, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 01:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Mookie, <3

Michael White, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link

what can one say about a person quoting an explicitly racist email to oneself and having no comment on its racism?

goole, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 01:50 (fifteen years ago) link

URL says it all

http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/74587/fatwa-against-zardari-for-flirting-with-palin.html

Mackro Mackro, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:25 (fifteen years ago) link

i just saw the daily show from friday so i dont know if this has gotten any play yet: the menacing "i can certainly handle more than one grill" gesture he made towards the women on the View (i think). anyways it was the moment of zen and it was super creepy and needs to be circulated http://www.thedailyshow.com/ it's still on the front page. there's still room for more character assasination let it fall in heaps hahaha die

hoops (tremendoid), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 03:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I find McCain kind of endearing when he gets irritable, even if the stuff coming out of his mouth is completely shitheaded. I think his annoyed tone of voice is similar to mine.

original dixieland jaas band (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 04:26 (fifteen years ago) link

curtis you could find a reason to kind of like hilter

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 04:27 (fifteen years ago) link

haha I had kind of expected you to agree with me tom! cranky ppl gotta stick together!

original dixieland jaas band (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 04:31 (fifteen years ago) link

btw I still don't like McCain, I just like grumpy old men

original dixieland jaas band (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 04:32 (fifteen years ago) link

(and I wouldn't think it was so endearing if I thought he had any significant chance of getting elected)

original dixieland jaas band (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 04:34 (fifteen years ago) link

So, like is the shotgun wedding this weekend or what? Is that how she's going to get out of this?

Office Cat is Eating the Monitor Again (kingfish), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 06:43 (fifteen years ago) link

(1) Voter preferences are much more strongly correlated with age than they have been in recent elections. In 2000, Al Gore won young (age 18-29) voters by just 2 points, barely different than his overall margin against George Bush. In 2004, John Kerry won young voters by 9 points. But this year, young voters are going for Barack Obama by anywhere from 15 to perhaps as many as 35 points, depending on which poll you look at.

I was not aware of that.

caek, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 10:26 (fifteen years ago) link

This is going to be incredible because since the 'youth vote' began snowballing for Obama all his opponents can do to counter it is mumble something about young people being too ADHD to turn up on polling day.

jane hussein lane (suzy), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 10:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Okay, here's what should happen: prior to his next stop on the campaign trail, Obama needs 1) to sit down with some respected economists and 2) to have his campaign announce to the media that his next speech will be something a little different. He then uses the platform to talk to average Americans like adults, even in a relatively broad way, how they should behave in the face of this economic crisis. Fill the absolute void of leadership and say something helpful and, hopefully, a little comforting. Don't even mention McCain (which should never happen unless absolutely necessary, anyway). Act like a President. Maybe even kick it off with "My fellow Americans...". It's a gamble, but I think most Americans would like to see a little leadership at this point by someone who seems even vaguely trustworthy. Plus, if it pays off, McCain loses. If he does something similar, he looks like an also-ran. If he counters, any resultant economic meltdown is going to look like it's at least partly his fault. If he keeps mum, it's as good as a concession. This is the time for one of them to strike and make himself look like the presumptive President. And if it works out, it functions both as a calculated political move and the kind of speech that 5th graders read about in history class.

Mind you, I came up with this in the shower this morning, but there's a nugget of something worthwhile in there.

Deric W. Haircare, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 12:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Mind you, I came up with this in the shower this morning, but there's a nugget of something worthwhile in there.

dang perry to thread

I DIED, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 13:07 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

caek, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 13:16 (fifteen years ago) link

omg why does he talk about pizza

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:19 (fifteen years ago) link

It reminds him of his face?

jane hussein lane (suzy), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Of course not. But, look, I understand this day and age of ‘gotcha’ journalism. Is that a pizza place? In a conversation with someone who you didn’t hear… the question very well, you don’t know the context of the conversation, grab a phrase.

^^^ this is crazy talk

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link

and gdamn it was in a world famous CHEESESTEAK spot

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link

"gotcha pizza journalism, is this for pick-up or delivery?"

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link

"hi i'd like one pizza with extra moose, please"

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link

when the delivery guy rears his head do you tip him y/n?

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link

"You're not the regular moose pizza cheesesteak delivery boy."

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Mooserella with that?

jane hussein lane (suzy), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:28 (fifteen years ago) link

"this pizza is off the record and will continue to be off the record until you and your gotcha pizza delivery style learn some respect"

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link

when you open the pizza box, those fake spring-snake things fly everywhere and scare the shit out of you. then the delivery boy takes the secret video of the event and it shows up on the evening news.

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link

BOXCAR JOURNALISM

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I've had pizza with moose!

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i35.tinypic.com/2qv598i.jpg

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Santa Cheesesteak is coming to town.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

is McCain sensitive about her fundie following knowing she was in a bar?

their burgers are good but they can forget about gabbneb's business. that'll show 'em.

gabbneb, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Finally – this thread is interesting (and it's close to lunchtime).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link

To be fair, their menu does have pizza burgers, pizza fries, and something called chicken pepperoni pizza steak.

jaymc, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link


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